Bright Osayi-Samuel

What we need do more of is produce decent champ standard players that get picked up by other clubs for 3,4,5 million a time, along with one or two that go for bigger fees. All adds up and you look at Brentford and how those sorts of deals have put them in a very good position financially. They've also had few deals where they've sold for less than what they prolly like - similar to us with bos.

Yea that's the problem, but how do you get around it is the question?

Who gives a toss how they get on once the money has been paid. I doubt Brentford feel sorry for Villa for the 9.5 million they got for him now he is on loan at Brum. Brentford sell at high as do Preston with Hugill and Robinson both back in championship on loan as Leeds did with Clarke. Our club is viewed as a joke when we buy and sell players.

The recent article on FFP now shows we have our house in order financially.

And it hasn’t effected other clubs in same way ?

This is why players sales are vital going forward.

That was the point I was making last night. We pay people to spot a player. Why weren’t we negotiating before he hit form? They work with these players every day. I’m sick and tired of settling for the scraps. We tolerate under achievement and incompetence more than anyone I know. It’s got to stop and we’ve got to raise our standards or nothing will change. All these years pass and we are still a disorganised mess. It’s not good enough

I said that in relation to your point about us fans over stating a players value.

I know finances are tight, but if Les thinks even fans of forty years standing are going to go watch an attacking force of a Rem Oteh rather than a Nakhi Wells, he's in for a big surprise.

Think you may be surprised 77 more will go then don’t

When the commentator on qpr plus says his name, it sounds like one word. He really loves saying Barbet though...

I'd like to think so, West. And hope so. I'll still go but, tbh, being unable to get Wells, when he clearly wanted to stay, was one of the most demoralizing experiences I've had watching the Rs since 1877. I'm way nearer the end of my tether than I've ever been (bar when I was estranged when living in the US).

Westy's right, plenty will still go but we'll be back down to the hard-core support and with so much competition locally - especially if the bus stop gets an upgrade - a attracting the next generation is the worry.

You will stay have the hardcore but the families with young kids who are the next generation of our fanbase we will miss out on for sure as why would a father pay a lot of dough to watch average at best players. Very concerning times for the people at the club.