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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 19:21:45 GMT
I must confess it’s not nice to see in print owners fess up years later and say they told lies ,it makes me think how much of the true picture do the fans really see.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2022 17:23:02 GMT
Bump
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2022 17:24:32 GMT
In my time we have had
Thompson
Wright
Power
Paladini
Flabby & Knee high
TF, Tune, Amit and Mittel
Have I missed anyone?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 31, 2022 17:26:44 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2022 17:30:46 GMT
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Post by itsonlyagame on Dec 31, 2022 18:26:43 GMT
Saw this today, so true.  |
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2022 18:28:57 GMT
We are actually a well run club now
However we are going no where fast
The owners like the media attention the club gives them
But dont want to invest anymore
We need new owners now with new ambition
Cannot see us ever going up now to Prem again
After 8 yrs we are exactly where we started
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2022 18:38:56 GMT
But dont want to invest anymore What about new training ground? |
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2022 18:47:26 GMT
Good point this is an excellent investment
Maybe thats why theres no money for the team
Just need a team to go with it now
We just seem so average now its frustrating
When did we last sign a top player
10 yrs ago probably
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Post by sparks on Dec 31, 2022 18:48:22 GMT
But dont want to invest anymore What about new training ground? How much will the training ground cost in total, iirc supporters stumped up around £6m towards it? If/when club ownership changes hands training ground bumps price up? |
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2022 18:53:43 GMT
How can a team like Bournmouth with a capcity
Of 12 k be more a more sucessful club than Qpr
When i was 15 Bournmouth were in 3rd division
I went to see Aldershot v Bournmouth
Farking joke
Qpr were challenging Liverpool Arsenal Spurs
They have a ground with 12k but no FFP
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2022 18:55:06 GMT
What about new training ground? How much will the training ground cost in total, iirc supporters stumped up around £6m towards it? If/when club ownership changes hands training ground bumps price up? Yes will be worth more as a club def |
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2022 18:56:30 GMT
How can a team like Bournmouth with a capcity Of 12 k be more a more sucessful club than Qpr When i was 15 Bournmouth were in 3rd division I went to see Aldershot v Bournmouth Farking joke Qpr were challenging Liverpool Arsenal Spurs They have a ground with 12k but no FFP This please can someone explain how this is possible A club with 12,000 supporters more successful than us |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 31, 2022 18:57:28 GMT
Then u have the fake jocks whom going to fight it out with city for anything that moves and crazy cash.whilst we look for a loan striker crom Scunthorpe or the fox and hounds
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2022 19:09:19 GMT
What about new training ground? How much will the training ground cost in total, iirc supporters stumped up around £6m towards it? If/when club ownership changes hands training ground bumps price up? regardless mate is it investment from owners? |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2022 19:10:50 GMT
How can a team like Bournmouth with a capcity Of 12 k be more a more sucessful club than Qpr When i was 15 Bournmouth were in 3rd division I went to see Aldershot v Bournmouth Farking joke Qpr were challenging Liverpool Arsenal Spurs They have a ground with 12k but no FFP This please can someone explain how this is possible A club with 12,000 supporters more successful than us they got an FFP fine and paid it off Bournemouth from first promotion Massively spending beyond means. |
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2022 19:22:50 GMT
Yes but shows how they have improved
And we have declined doesnt it
Went to see Brentford v Addlestone
Meanwhile
Qpr were playing Man Utd at home
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Post by sparks on Dec 31, 2022 19:29:04 GMT
How much will the training ground cost in total, iirc supporters stumped up around £6m towards it? If/when club ownership changes hands training ground bumps price up? regardless mate is it investment from owners? Apologies if I’m coming across as being negative as I cant deny it’s an investment, although investing in land is basically risk free so a cast iron money maker for owners. Similar to them buying other land for housing/retail development it won’t stop us getting frustrated having to see Donkey up front every game. |
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Post by Corbray on Dec 31, 2022 19:35:44 GMT
Yes but shows how they have improved And we have declined doesnt it Went to see Brentford v Addlestone Meanwhile Qpr were playing Man Utd at home but if bournemouth get relegated and spend more than a few seasons in the championship they'd be fucked. they've spent far beyond their means over the past 10 years which was cushioned by prem money. if we're still run the way we are we'll still have a club for the next 20 years. teams like bolton and portsmouth were destroyed by massive overspending. fact of the matter is we're not a big club. i do want more ambition from the board and better scouting as my mindset is if brentford can do it then why can't we? brentford should be the model to all smaller clubs imo. as much as i hate them i feel like they have the best owners in england. for us it feels like we've hit a bit of a ceiling and as much as i love chair, dieng and willock we should really be looking to sell as that 15-20m would go a longggg way to improving the squad. brentford did it year on year and now look were they are, they improved their TEAM by selling their best individual players whereas we're hoping individual brilliance is enough to see us promoted. |
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2022 19:41:19 GMT
Have to say that i agree with westy
The training ground is def a big investment
And something we should remember going forward
Including myself
We have declined as a club though dramatically
No question about it
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 31, 2022 19:43:53 GMT
Good post Corbs. Only thing worries me there is trusting people who bought Dykes with £20m.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 31, 2022 19:47:53 GMT
I think ffp shoud be scrapped. Doesnt effect the big clubs does it. Then it be upto clubs to spend what they see fit. If they fuck it up and go bust their choice and less competition
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Post by Corbray on Dec 31, 2022 20:34:58 GMT
Good post Corbs. Only thing worries me there is trusting people who bought Dykes with £20m. i can understand buying dykes tbh. the guy had 'no footballing background' but had excelled at livingston with 12ish goals so he seemed like one of those guys who's naturally gifted at football. if it paid off then 2m would have been a coup and on face value stats wise he's reached double figures in his past 2 seasons so any non QPR fan would think he's been a good signing. as we all know though he's been awful and its only the delivery and penalties that have enabled him to score goals. even so though he was the type of player we should be signing, a relative diamond in the rough who we could improve and then sell on. i feel like we've got it right more often than not though, willock, dickie, dunne and paal have kind of proved that |
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Post by The General on Jan 1, 2023 13:05:23 GMT
Bournmouth currently going down atm
They are prob farked now
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Post by The General on Jan 1, 2023 13:07:05 GMT
Could we play at Craven Cottage
Is this a good football ground ?
Out ground is falling down now if we are honest
Sell the ground buy Messi job done
Rent Craven Cottage
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 1, 2023 13:07:56 GMT
But as long as they bounce back up they finr,and they spend what is needed to do it.
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Post by Bill on Jan 1, 2023 13:11:48 GMT
After reading both articles that Stanley kindly posted yesterday regarding Chris Wright and Richard Thompson and then comparing them with our current owners there are some striking similarities and common themes that stand out with Owners claiming the club runs at a loss. Owners bringing in previous fans favs to deflect flak. Owners admitting to huge very basic mistakes. The most shocking quote was from Chris Wright claiming” football is a dishonest business with back handers going on all the time..the whole bung process is rife in football “ If all of this is true why is it that Jim Gregory managed to drag us out of the 3rd Division to the Premiership and Europe whilst upgrading our ramshackle Stadium. I don't think old Jim was averse to the odd bit of dodgy stuff. Different times. |
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Post by Bill on Jan 1, 2023 13:23:39 GMT
Old Jim was a very shrewd man,and a second hand car dealer which just about says it all.
For me the club has not had any sustained shrewd knowledgable management at board level since.
Yes times have changed but all we have had is people who have had some success but nothing really sustained.
Finding players now day is much harder than baxk then as competition is crazy and reputation,money,glamour and clubs
stature in the football world has imo become poor for a number of reasons which are pretty obvious.
The longer this feeling of the club not being able to get out of this "cant attitude" the worse it will get.
Conclusion you have to ask what is their ambition,what is their end game,what is their objective.
In all honesty i dont think anyone at the club has a clue and are content to pay lip service to the fans
and what happens is more a question of luck or a good strategy,for me as ive said before we are like ship becalmed with no
engines in the middle of the Pacific ocean.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 13, 2024 12:07:28 GMT
OldR, perhaps you'd like to represent RFI at the next Supporters Consultation Committee meeting? We're invited to them all. I usually go but when I can't AlanWycombe, Corbray and West Acton have attended. The CEO and other senior staff are always present. You'd get to meet your mates Steve Sayce and Clive Whittingham too, as they're usually there  So you'd get a chance to put your views across about how the club should be run according to your principles. These meetings are designed to reflect the views of R's fans across all demographics and generations. Thanks for the invite but to paraphrase Gwenth Paltrow, I'm already a long way down the line of my de-coupling from QPR with an exit plan already in place. I'm happy moaning on here like the dinosaur I am but not daft. My views are in the minority and are unrealistic in the modern era for the most part and that's before you take into account the fact that for my vision of QPR to materialise would take 25 years of patience or dropping down the pyramid system... That doesn't mean that I don't reserve the right to moan like fuck about the death of the real QPR and mock people who wouldn't have saved QPR in 1987 if we had been relying on them....What, in your opinion, happened in 1987 to cause "the death of the real QPR"? I'd be interested to know in the context of the above thread on the history of our owners. Rough timeline as follows, to the best of my understanding: 1967-90: Jim Gregory 1990-91: David Bulstrode 1991-94: Richard Thompson 1994-01: Chris Wright 2001-05: Bill Power consortium 2005-07: Gianni Paladini 2007-11: Flavio Briatore, Bernie Ecclestone 2011-24: Tony Fernandes, Lakshmi Mittal, Kamarudin Meranun, Ruben Gnanalingam, Richard Reilly |
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Post by Bill on Jan 13, 2024 12:10:20 GMT
Gregory.
The rest have just tinkered and played with it.
With some success,but this current lot are a disgrace
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So you'd get a chance to put your views across about how the club should be run according to your principles. These meetings are designed to reflect the views of R's fans across all demographics and generations.