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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 28, 2019 7:51:18 GMT
Wells has played in the last 6 to 10 games like a loan player who knows he will not be back next season. I don't agree. He's still been trying but just not playing well. |
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Post by West Acton on Apr 28, 2019 8:04:53 GMT
Think what we saw yesterday with Wells is that he seriously lacks any composure. Two missed pens in last mins plus amount of shots which go nowhere close to goal
If he had composure suppose he would be in the prem or one of the sides pushing to go up. He’s at ours for a reason
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 8:05:10 GMT
All about opinions CCJ, Not the same player he was earlier in the season and not as much off the ball movement which was something he brought to the team early doors.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 28, 2019 8:17:44 GMT
Think what we saw yesterday with Wells is that he seriously lacks any composure. Two missed pens in last mins plus amount of shots which go nowhere close to goal If he had composure suppose he would be in the prem or one of the sides pushing to go up. He’s at ours for a reason Did so much better at Huddersfield though. His confidence is shot 2nd half of this season. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 29, 2019 14:39:52 GMT
I heard a rumour over the weekend that Pav declined a contract offer from us. Whether it was an improved or reduced offer I'm not sure, but what I was told is that he'll almost certainly be on his way.
The same source (and it's a reasonably good one) also said that Lynch won't be offered a new deal. He also said we have an option to extend Bidwell for another year, but it's at a salary level we are unlikely to be able to afford.
All hearsay of course, but if I was a betting man I'd say all 3 will leave.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 29, 2019 14:44:32 GMT
I heard a rumour over the weekend that Pav declined a contract offer from us. Whether it was an improved or reduced offer I'm not sure, but what I was told is that he'll almost certainly be on his way. The same source (and it's a reasonably good one) also said that Lynch won't be offered a new deal. He also said we have an option to extend Bidwell for another year, but it's at a salary level we are unlikely to be able to afford. All hearsay of course, but if I was a betting man I'd say all 3 will leave. I am pretty sure that the Pav situation is very much how you are describing the Bidwell one Tarbs i.e. we have an option to extend but on a salary we are not likely to be able to afford. Thus it then comes down to whether the player will accept a lower salary. Unlikely but not impossible I guess. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 29, 2019 14:51:13 GMT
Probably CCJ. Maybe we made him an offer at reduced terms and he didn't like it.
I think a few players will be in for a shock in the summer though. FFP means that big contracts in the Championship are fast becoming a thing of the past. I reckon there will be plenty of out of contract players in a position where they have to accept less than they are hoping for!
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 29, 2019 15:31:36 GMT
Probably CCJ. Maybe we made him an offer at reduced terms and he didn't like it. I think a few players will be in for a shock in the summer though. FFP means that big contracts in the Championship are fast becoming a thing of the past. I reckon there will be plenty of out of contract players in a position where they have to accept less than they are hoping for! 100% agree mate. |
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Post by qprjeff1882 on May 1, 2019 0:08:56 GMT
I'd bet if they were to ask Pav to considerably drop his wages to stay he would do. Seems to be very popular with both fans and the squad. Think he'll go down as a bit of a legend of recent times. Always always tries his hardest and thats all we want. Club would do worse than to talk to him and his agent as he seems to be settled here.
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on May 1, 2019 10:40:43 GMT
Sham about Pav as I rate him highly and I don't think Steve ever really played regularly enough in his correct position to see the best of him. To be honest though I am excited to see the lad Smyth back, with him on one wing and BOS on the other.
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Post by Tarbie on May 1, 2019 10:49:05 GMT
I'd bet if they were to ask Pav to considerably drop his wages to stay he would do. Seems to be very popular with both fans and the squad. Think he'll go down as a bit of a legend of recent times. Always always tries his hardest and thats all we want. Club would do worse than to talk to him and his agent as he seems to be settled here. The story that I heard (and it was from someone very close to the club) is that he was offered a new deal and didn't accept. My suspicion is that it was a new deal on less money, but I'd imagine we offered him as much as we could. I very much doubt Pav will be reporting for pre-season. The same goes for Bidwell, Lynch, Rangel, Cameron, Wells and Hemed. |
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Post by davieqpr on May 1, 2019 11:12:22 GMT
Think what we saw yesterday with Wells is that he seriously lacks any composure. Two missed pens in last mins plus amount of shots which go nowhere close to goal If he had composure suppose he would be in the prem or one of the sides pushing to go up. He’s at ours for a reason Did so much better at Huddersfield though. His confidence is shot 2nd half of this season. But after that only played 9 games for Burnley last season and wasn't wanted by them this season. |
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Post by West Acton on May 1, 2019 11:12:59 GMT
I’m a big fan of Pav and think he’s the exact type of character we’re going need going forwards.
Saying that there is a lack of end product when it comes to the conclusion of his efforts, bit like BOS. He gets in some great positions but it don’t end in an attempt at goal or opportunity for others enough
Would defo push boat out to hold on to him but there is only so much we can offer
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on May 1, 2019 11:30:25 GMT
I'd bet if they were to ask Pav to considerably drop his wages to stay he would do. Seems to be very popular with both fans and the squad. Think he'll go down as a bit of a legend of recent times. Always always tries his hardest and thats all we want. Club would do worse than to talk to him and his agent as he seems to be settled here. The story that I heard (and it was from someone very close to the club) is that he was offered a new deal and didn't accept. My suspicion is that it was a new deal on less money, but I'd imagine we offered him as much as we could. I very much doubt Pav will be reporting for pre-season. The same goes for Bidwell, Lynch, Rangel, Cameron, Wells and Hemed. I will genuinely be gutted to see Bidwell, Rangel and Cameron go. Rangel and Cameron add some serious experience to the team and I think Cameron could be a main stay in the team if he can keep fit. I am sure Rangel wouldn't be to expensive and would at least serve as decent cover. As for Bidwell he's a solid championship defender. Not the best but good enough for the situation we are in now. Surprised the club wont make more of an effort to keep him after spending money on signing him. I wonder what type of wages he is on at QPR. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on May 1, 2019 12:08:11 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised to see Rangel and Cameron stay. Even possibly Bidwell.
We are going to be focusing on the kids but we will need a few old heads around and those guys seem to like it at QPR and I doubt have high wage demands.
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Post by Tarbie on May 1, 2019 12:13:09 GMT
The story that I heard (and it was from someone very close to the club) is that he was offered a new deal and didn't accept. My suspicion is that it was a new deal on less money, but I'd imagine we offered him as much as we could. I very much doubt Pav will be reporting for pre-season. The same goes for Bidwell, Lynch, Rangel, Cameron, Wells and Hemed. I will genuinely be gutted to see Bidwell, Rangel and Cameron go. Rangel and Cameron add some serious experience to the team and I think Cameron could be a main stay in the team if he can keep fit. I am sure Rangel wouldn't be to expensive and would at least serve as decent cover. As for Bidwell he's a solid championship defender. Not the best but good enough for the situation we are in now. Surprised the club wont make more of an effort to keep him after spending money on signing him. I wonder what type of wages he is on at QPR.
The figure I was told was 16k a week. Apparently a clause in his initial deal to extend it by 1 year. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on May 1, 2019 12:15:26 GMT
I will genuinely be gutted to see Bidwell, Rangel and Cameron go. Rangel and Cameron add some serious experience to the team and I think Cameron could be a main stay in the team if he can keep fit. I am sure Rangel wouldn't be to expensive and would at least serve as decent cover. As for Bidwell he's a solid championship defender. Not the best but good enough for the situation we are in now. Surprised the club wont make more of an effort to keep him after spending money on signing him. I wonder what type of wages he is on at QPR. The figure I was told was 16k a week. Apparently a clause in his initial deal to extend it by 1 year. That wouldn't surprise me and I am guessing we won't be going above £10k from now on. |
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Post by Tarbie on May 1, 2019 12:19:00 GMT
The figure I was told was 16k a week. Apparently a clause in his initial deal to extend it by 1 year. That wouldn't surprise me and I am guessing we won't be going above £10k from now on. Probably even less than that for the vast majority of the squad mate. Hence I'd be surprised to see the likes of Pav, Rangel, Bidwell etc. here next season. What I will say however is that I don't see too many clubs offering these players what they want either. FFP is biting hard at Championship level. But I'm sure they will take their chances in the summer on a free transfer, rather than accepting less than they think they are worth here. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on May 1, 2019 12:23:30 GMT
Yes I agree with that Tarbs. If we can get the right manager in, we may well benefit from that situation. Certainly in the long term.
All dependent on the appointment though.
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Post by Tarbie on May 1, 2019 12:26:08 GMT
Yes I agree with that Tarbs. If we can get the right manager in, we may well benefit from that situation. Certainly in the long term. All dependent on the appointment though. Totally mate. I'm sure most clubs at our level will be cutting their cloth and releasing high earners, U23's, fringe players etc. What's imperative is that we have the right structure in place to make the most of the situation and pick up the players that we need, at a sensible salary level. |
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Post by Stanley75 on May 1, 2019 15:57:46 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised to see Rangel and Cameron stay. Even possibly Bidwell. We are going to be focusing on the kids but we will need a few old heads around and those guys seem to like it at QPR and I doubt have high wage demands. Sincerely hope so, particularly Rangel and Cameron. |
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Post by hertshoops on May 2, 2019 12:45:42 GMT
I'm guessing having Shodipo fit again and little Smyth back gives us leverage with Pav. Would prefer us to keep him and have 4 wingers we can rotate to keep fresh
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Jul 20, 2019 23:48:14 GMT
Don’t think he’s signed for anyone yet.
Would walk into our first team imo. Surely we could work something out to get him back rather than looking to spend money on judge!!
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Post by West Acton on Jul 21, 2019 7:51:53 GMT
Would have him back in a heart beat but he will have options. He will be sitting on them playing each one off and rightly so too
Might have been smart move ask him to train with us so he’s fit
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Post by davieqpr on Jul 21, 2019 12:22:19 GMT
I am sure he would be interested in signing a new contract that would more than likely be half what he was earning before.
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Post by BrightonR on Jul 21, 2019 12:47:08 GMT
I am sure he would be interested in signing a new contract that would more than likely be half what he was earning before. In the absence of a contract with anyone else approaching what he may have been on, then it’s entirely possible that a player may wish to accept a more realistic wage commensurate with their talent. Granted, if a player is already on an inflated wage due to the stupidity of their club in giving it, then they may well decide to continue to receive that wage for training, rather than move for less and get games. Hence why many parent clubs are stuck with paying large percentages of their players wages whilst they are loaned out. A sensible club will adhere to a prudent wage structure. They are in no way obligated to waste money, simply because a player has been overpaid before. Having said that, you just know someone will be desperate enough to do exactly that. 😂 |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 22, 2019 17:33:16 GMT
what i dont understand.... to date, we have signed 9 players. .... with 4 or 5 more to come,
how the hell can the club turn around and tell us they could not afford to give pav a new contract.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jul 23, 2019 0:05:28 GMT
Would only have him back if he could re-discover the form he had before Holloway ruined him.
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Post by West Acton on Jul 23, 2019 7:37:25 GMT
what i dont understand.... to date, we have signed 9 players. .... with 4 or 5 more to come, how the hell can the club turn around and tell us they could not afford to give pav a new contract. perhaps that tells us how much he was actually on 😳 |
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 23, 2019 10:11:01 GMT
what i dont understand.... to date, we have signed 9 players. .... with 4 or 5 more to come, how the hell can the club turn around and tell us they could not afford to give pav a new contract. perhaps that tells us how much he was actually on 😳 I think he was on a good whack mate. Remember his agent played the "he's being looked at by Chelsea" trick in the press to secure him a nice contract! On the whole, I think the contracts being handed out this summer are far smaller than those of the players that have departed. |
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