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Post by West Acton on Jan 23, 2021 16:57:48 GMT
The quality of balls into the box from set pieces and open play is abysmal.
It's called coaching. We just don't do that properly.
This was an absolutely crucial game for us points wise. We're right back where the sun don't shine.
we were never not in it
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Post by Shania on Jan 23, 2021 16:58:19 GMT
Losing to Rooney. Oh no. I don`t know what to say really...
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 23, 2021 17:00:25 GMT
It's called coaching. We just don't do that properly.
This was an absolutely crucial game for us points wise. We're right back where the sun don't shine.
we were never not in it
you can have all the possession you want but if you can't manage taking a corner or a decent set piece it counts for nothing.
This is basic basic stuff.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 23, 2021 17:02:00 GMT
Once they scored they shut up shop. So why the fuck keep three at the back?
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 23, 2021 17:04:44 GMT
Small setback after 2 good away wins, Really need to get a ball playing midfielder in to replace Carroll and improve the creativity in the team. Never saw any of the game but gutted to lose after the last couple of games.
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Post by James1979 on Jan 23, 2021 17:06:39 GMT
Small setback after 2 good away wins, Really need to get a ball playing midfielder in to replace Carroll and improve the creativity in the team. Never saw any of the game but gutted to lose after the last couple of games. Agree. I’d even place that as priority over a left back.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jan 23, 2021 17:07:02 GMT
Niko and Kane offer nothing. Dykes even less. Ball loses possession within 0,2 seconds. Kelman blunders to take a shot when two yard from the goal. Bettache lightweight. That's the positives from today.
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 23, 2021 17:07:26 GMT
Poor performance. So much wrong. We absolutely have to get a central midfielder in ASAP. Chair needs pulling up on his delivery and decision making because if he’s not he will never go above this level. Thought dykes was poor and kellman should be doing so much better with that chance. Definitely should have had a penalty and overall I thought the ref was a fucking disgrace. Very frustrating afternoon
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 23, 2021 17:07:49 GMT
Once they scored they shut up shop. So why the fuck keep three at the back?
He doesn't see or think like that. Not fit for purpose.
I was going insane at this end from about 55 minutes, thinking what are you going to do? Answer: No idea.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jan 23, 2021 17:10:01 GMT
Small setback after 2 good away wins, Really need to get a ball playing midfielder in to replace Carroll and improve the creativity in the team. Never saw any of the game but gutted to lose after the last couple of games. Agree. I’d even place that as priority over a left back. Good full backs and a ball playing midfielder would be dramatic improvements.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 17:11:10 GMT
Once they scored they shut up shop. So why the fuck keep three at the back? Exactly..MW knew that they only played One up top..Three C/B was a mistake from the start
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Post by James1979 on Jan 23, 2021 17:11:27 GMT
Agree. I’d even place that as priority over a left back. Good full backs and a ball playing midfielder would be dramatic improvements. I think Kane is just about passable. Priority has to be midfielder and left back.
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Post by James1979 on Jan 23, 2021 17:14:28 GMT
I would send Niko out on loan. Let some other club try and develop him. We’ve got 4 more years of him.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 23, 2021 17:15:01 GMT
you can have all the possession you want but if you can't manage taking a corner or a decent set piece it counts for nothing.
This is basic basic stuff.
talking relegation fight not the game
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jan 23, 2021 17:17:15 GMT
Good full backs and a ball playing midfielder would be dramatic improvements. I think Kane is just about passable. Priority has to be midfielder and left back. Kane would probably do if he just could improve his crosses. Now they hit the first man all too often.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 23, 2021 17:18:12 GMT
Good full backs and a ball playing midfielder would be dramatic improvements. I think Kane is just about passable. Priority has to be midfielder and left back. if we want progress this season and next Kane needs replacing he finds it almost impossible to put ball inbox. His ratio must be like 1:8 or something like that
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Post by James1979 on Jan 23, 2021 17:19:40 GMT
I’m not saying Kane should be here long term just until end of the season. Getting 2 players in is possible. Think getting 2 full backs and midfielder is impossible.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 23, 2021 17:20:57 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 23, 2021 17:22:35 GMT
Once they scored they shut up shop. So why the fuck keep three at the back?
He doesn't see or think like that. Not fit for purpose.
I was going insane at this end from about 55 minutes, thinking what are you going to do? Answer: No idea.
He definitely has no idea, but then I do blame him for everything apparently.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 23, 2021 17:25:22 GMT
He doesn't see or think like that. Not fit for purpose.
I was going insane at this end from about 55 minutes, thinking what are you going to do? Answer: No idea.
He definitely has no idea, but then I do blame him for everything apparently. you do. Have become one of the most negative rangers fans I know
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Post by rscot on Jan 23, 2021 17:28:20 GMT
I thought QPR deserved a point from the game. Replacing Carroll is the priority, left and right back / wing back can wait until the summer. I don’t blame the defence for the goal but midfielders wanting way too many touches and wanting far too long on the ball. Pass and Move fucking simple, not Pass, take a touch, look around, go for a stroll with the ball, allow yourself to be closed down then turn into danger and eventually lose possession when the defence has pushed up the pitch. Some of the younger players need shown the game video from today and explained it’s not good enough at this level, you don’t get the space and/or time to be holding onto the ball too long, especially when there are several easy passes on to team mates in space and especially when the defence has pushed up. Not good enough at Sunday league, definitely not good enough at championship. Kellman, hit it 1st time or forget about it, don’t adapt you’ll not play at this level.
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Post by Shania on Jan 23, 2021 17:30:22 GMT
If it was possible I would loved to see us getting another CF in. Dykes and Kelman are just embarrasing at this level.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 23, 2021 17:32:56 GMT
If it was possible I would loved to see us getting another CF in. Dykes and Kelman are just embarrasing at this level. got go with what we have now up top more pressing areas to address
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Post by acricketer on Jan 23, 2021 17:33:03 GMT
Another Saturday ruined.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 17:34:06 GMT
I thought QPR deserved a point from the game. Replacing Carroll is the priority, left and right back / wing back can wait until the summer. I don’t blame the defence for the goal but midfielders wanting way too many touches and wanting far too long on the ball. Pass and Move fucking simple, not Pass, take a touch, look around, go for a stroll with the ball, allow yourself to be closed down then turn into danger and eventually lose possession when the defence has pushed up the pitch. Some of the younger players need shown the game video from today and explained it’s not good enough at this level, you don’t get the space and/or time to be holding onto the ball too long, especially when there are several easy passes on to team mates in space and especially when the defence has pushed up. Not good enough at Sunday league, definitely not good enough at championship. Kellman, hit it 1st time or forget about it, don’t adapt you’ll not play at this level. This quote is most applicable to Chair.
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 23, 2021 17:39:08 GMT
If it was possible I would loved to see us getting another CF in. Dykes and Kelman are just embarrasing at this level. Kelman has played two games at this level. After jumping up 2 levels and being signed for the under 23s. Nothing like giving the young lad a bit of time 👍🏻
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Post by rscot on Jan 23, 2021 17:40:31 GMT
To be fair to them neither Chair or Willock are central midfielders, but had to operate there at times because of Carroll’s absence, but even in the attacking areas, they generally want way too much time on the ball and are slow at releasing it. It needs to change if they want to become better players, it needs to be pointed out to them. Even Bettache when he came on, wanting to take unnecessary touches, you don’t get the time at this level, and if you don’t adapt and adapt soon you’ll get replaced in the team, then eventually you’ll be going down the leagues to play your football.
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Post by rscot on Jan 23, 2021 17:48:55 GMT
If it was possible I would loved to see us getting another CF in. Dykes and Kelman are just embarrasing at this level. Kelman has played two games at this level. After jumping up 2 levels and being signed for the under 23s. Nothing like giving the young lad a bit of time 👍🏻 I just don’t see the need to take the touch, any striker with an ounce of predatory instinct buries that without needing a touch. Noticed it with Bettache too when he came on, taking a touch to control a ball that been passed to him from 5 yards away at a snails pace, fuck that, not good enough, you pass a ball like that on 1st time, you don’t need a touch to “get it under control”
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 23, 2021 17:49:52 GMT
Five home games without a goal. Gotta be a record.
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 23, 2021 17:58:12 GMT
Kelman has played two games at this level. After jumping up 2 levels and being signed for the under 23s. Nothing like giving the young lad a bit of time 👍🏻 I just don’t see the need to take the touch, any striker with an ounce of predatory instinct buries that without needing a touch. Noticed it with Bettache too when he came on, taking a touch to control a ball that been passed to him from 5 yards away at a snails pace, fuck that, not good enough, you pass a ball like that on 1st time, you don’t need a touch to “get it under control” Nerves perhaps? They know the pressure the clubs under and they are kids. Think we should cut them some slack. No excuse for players that have been playing full international football like dykes but kelman for example has less than 40 games under his belt. 35 of which have been at a much lower level
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