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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 15:53:07 GMT
Looks to be a very important player in our team..Made a very good start with us..really hope we can offer him a deal to stay after his loan expires.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 21, 2021 16:10:17 GMT
Looks to be a very important player in our team..Made a very good start with us..really hope we can offer him a deal to stay after his loan expires. He'd have to take a mammoth pay cut. He's on 40 bags a week at Fulham apparently!
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 21, 2021 16:48:28 GMT
Charlie, outspoken and demanding? TFFT. Impact is what we want.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 16:53:28 GMT
It would not surprise me if Charlie soon falls out with MW
The writing will be on the wall when he gets picked as sub.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 21, 2021 17:06:32 GMT
I do have a problem buying all this tired shit. We don't rotate the hardest workers in the team, and Cameron is ancient yet he plays every game.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 21, 2021 17:28:11 GMT
He was talking to a norwegian journalist on QPR.no a week ago and here is a brief summary of what he said: 1)Not a doubt in his mind when the offer from QPR came. Talks with Warburton and the fact that he didn`t have to move made the decision very easy. His family is settled in London. 2)QPR are also a club you simply don`t turn down. He mentioned our greeeeaaaattttt past etc.. 3)Warburton as a football man impressed him from how he remembered him when he was in charge of Glascow Rangers and Stefan played for Celtic. Stefan liked his attack minded and possession based way of playing. He mentioned tight defenses also. Cough,cough.. 4)Stefan meant that QPR as a team should aim higher on the table. He was impressed by the allround quality of the players, but pointed out that we are a quite young team which clearly lacked a bit of routine. 5)On Charlie Austin: Charlie is a typical goalscorer who knows how to score goals and especially how to position himself in front of goal by clever moves behind/in front of defenders etc. CA is also a character who demands a lot from the club hierarchy down to the individual player before and during matches. He is yery outspoken and quite authoratitive when he mentors the youngest players on and off the pitch. 6)Towards the end of the session, Stefan mentioned that he didn`t really know what would happen when his loan deal is up in the summer, but he would gladly stay if he was offered the chance (to leave Fulham). He expressed the desire to stay because he really felt wanted at this club where everyone from the cook, to the players and club hierarchy where a real nice group of people. THE END Thanks for posting Shania. Good to hear the perspective of players outside the club as to their views on our players and manager. Seems like he has a higher opinion of our club than some of our own so called fans.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 21, 2021 18:09:03 GMT
I do have a problem buying all this tired shit. We don't rotate the hardest workers in the team, and Cameron is ancient yet he plays every game. When was the last time you saw Cameron run mate? 😂 He just sits at the back (or just in front) organising and occasionally getting his head on stuff. Doesn't exert anything like the amount of effort that our attacking players do.
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Post by Shania on Feb 21, 2021 18:34:42 GMT
He was talking to a norwegian journalist on QPR.no a week ago and here is a brief summary of what he said: 1)Not a doubt in his mind when the offer from QPR came. Talks with Warburton and the fact that he didn`t have to move made the decision very easy. His family is settled in London. 2)QPR are also a club you simply don`t turn down. He mentioned our greeeeaaaattttt past etc.. 3)Warburton as a football man impressed him from how he remembered him when he was in charge of Glascow Rangers and Stefan played for Celtic. Stefan liked his attack minded and possession based way of playing. He mentioned tight defenses also. Cough,cough.. 4)Stefan meant that QPR as a team should aim higher on the table. He was impressed by the allround quality of the players, but pointed out that we are a quite young team which clearly lacked a bit of routine. 5)On Charlie Austin: Charlie is a typical goalscorer who knows how to score goals and especially how to position himself in front of goal by clever moves behind/in front of defenders etc. CA is also a character who demands a lot from the club hierarchy down to the individual player before and during matches. He is yery outspoken and quite authoratitive when he mentors the youngest players on and off the pitch. 6)Towards the end of the session, Stefan mentioned that he didn`t really know what would happen when his loan deal is up in the summer, but he would gladly stay if he was offered the chance (to leave Fulham). He expressed the desire to stay because he really felt wanted at this club where everyone from the cook, to the players and club hierarchy where a real nice group of people. THE END Thanks for posting Shania. Good to hear the perspective of players outside the club as to their views on our players and manager. Seems like he has a higher opinion of our club than some of our own so called fans. Stefan is a very loyal team player, but yes he seemed very impressed by QPR and Warburton. He gave Les Ferdinand a complimentary mention as well.
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Post by Shania on Feb 21, 2021 18:44:16 GMT
Charlie, outspoken and demanding? TFFT. Impact is what we want. I think he makes a lot of impact actually.
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Post by 1qprdk on Feb 21, 2021 19:34:51 GMT
Thanks for posting Shania Yes, thanks for posting. Found the interview here, if anyone else wants to hear it (It´s in Norwegian)
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 22, 2021 7:47:40 GMT
Thanks for posting Shania Yes, thanks for posting. Found the interview here, if anyone else wants to hear it (It´s in Norwegian) My Norwegian isn’t great but I’m sure he says he’s glad to get the fuck away from Craven cottage before their cravat wearing fans are able to return with their embarrassing rattles. Maybe you could confirm Shania.
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Post by Shania on Feb 22, 2021 20:49:55 GMT
Yes, thanks for posting. Found the interview here, if anyone else wants to hear it (It´s in Norwegian) My Norwegian isn’t great but I’m sure he says he’s glad to get the fuck away from Craven cottage before their cravat wearing fans are able to return with their embarrassing rattles. Maybe you could confirm Shania. In a way I wish I could.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 25, 2021 19:43:27 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on May 8, 2021 22:42:39 GMT
It's taken us 5 years to find a replacement for Ale Faurlin. And now we risk losing him? Club should be pulling out all the stops to sign him.
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Post by rscot on May 8, 2021 23:06:59 GMT
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Post by Ginger Ninja on May 9, 2021 5:14:29 GMT
I think Field and De Wijs are more likely than Austin or Johansen. Would love all 4 though.
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Post by Tarbie on May 9, 2021 13:11:22 GMT
It's taken us 5 years to find a replacement for Ale Faurlin. And now we risk losing him? Club should be pulling out all the stops to sign him. He's not our player mate. Never has been. I'm sure we are trying our best to land him, but he's got a year left on a very nice deal. Ain't just as straight forward as "pulling out all the stops". Bottom line is either the player or Fulham (or possibly both) will have to be willing to take a hit on the remaining year of his contract for him to come to us on a permanent deal.
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Post by Tarbie on May 9, 2021 13:13:49 GMT
I think Field and De Wijs are more likely than Austin or Johansen. Would love all 4 though. I think Field and De Wijs are nailed on. I'm sure Charlie will want to stay too. I'm guessing we'll need to make him our highest earner though. I'd have no problem with that, I think if you are gonna go over and above the normal wage structure for a player that you think can make a big difference, Austin is the sort of player you should be doing it for. Such a positive influence at the club.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 9, 2021 13:27:30 GMT
It's taken us 5 years to find a replacement for Ale Faurlin. And now we risk losing him? Club should be pulling out all the stops to sign him. He's not our player mate. Never has been. I'm sure we are trying our best to land him, but he's got a year left on a very nice deal. Ain't just as straight forward as "pulling out all the stops". Bottom line is either the player or Fulham (or possibly both) will have to be willing to take a hit on the remaining year of his contract for him to come to us on a permanent deal. I think you misinterpreted my post mate. I never said he's our player. That's why I said we should be doing all we can 'to sign him'. However he has been our player on loan. Plus he clearly loves the club and loves playing for us. All of that does actually count for something in terms of our leverage in attempting to sign him, with the obvious caveat of keeping it within P&S rules.
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Post by Tarbie on May 9, 2021 13:37:32 GMT
He's not our player mate. Never has been. I'm sure we are trying our best to land him, but he's got a year left on a very nice deal. Ain't just as straight forward as "pulling out all the stops". Bottom line is either the player or Fulham (or possibly both) will have to be willing to take a hit on the remaining year of his contract for him to come to us on a permanent deal. I think you misinterpreted my post mate. I never said he's our player. That's why I said we should be doing all we can 'to sign him'. However he has been our player on loan. Plus he clearly loves the club and loves playing for us. All of that does actually count for something in terms of our leverage in our attempts to sign him, with the obvious caveat of keeping it within P&S rules. Can't lose what isn't yours mate. That's all I'm saying. It's a similar situation as it was with Nakhi Wells. He was great for us but when it came down to it, we could never afford him on anything other than a loan deal. A few were up in arms when he went to Bristol City but with the benefit of hindsight, we made the right decision. We may end up in a similar situation with Johansen I think. Would love to have him here long term. But we also need to be realistic when it comes to what we can afford.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 9, 2021 14:03:05 GMT
we need to be realistic when it comes to what we can afford. That's the point though, isn't it mate. Whether we can or can't afford him is currently a grey area WRT the rules. You made the same point yourself on the Austin thread. The situation this summer may well be shifting in that regard.
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Post by Tarbie on May 9, 2021 14:50:08 GMT
It's not just about FFP though mate. It's also about running the club in a sensible and sustainable manner.
I'd say the big difference between Austin and Johansen is the fact Austin is out if contract and Johansen isn't. It's the reason I'm far more confident that a deal can be brokered with Austin that works for everyone.
For Johansen, I'm unsure what relegation causes are in his deal. But what I do know is we couldn't afford to pay him what he's been getting at Fulham in the Prem. This presents a problem unless Fulham are happy to take a hit on part of his salary for the remaining year of his deal. I suppose the big question is whether Fulham want him for next season. If they don't, it will be a much easier deal to make. Can't think why they wouldn't though. Very handy player at Championship level.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 9, 2021 14:57:35 GMT
It's not just about FFP though mate. It's also about running the club in a sensible and sustainable manner. I'd say the big difference between Austin and Johansen is the fact Austin is out if contract and Johansen isn't. It's the reason I'm far more confident that a deal can be brokered with Austin that works for everyone. For Johansen, I'm unsure what relegation causes are in his deal. But what I do know is we couldn't afford to pay him what he's been getting at Fulham in the Prem. This presents a problem unless Fulham are happy to take a hit on part of his salary for the remaining year of his deal. I suppose the big question is whether Fulham want him for next season. If they don't, it will be a much easier deal to make. Can't think why they wouldn't though. Very handy player at Championship level. I agree with all you say. No argument there. The only thing I'd add is that it seems the club are also now in a position to show a bit more ambition, even within the rules.
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Post by Tarbie on May 9, 2021 15:06:00 GMT
I totally agree and I think they will show more ambition and spend a bit more money next year. Bit also important to recognise that Johansen's deal at Fulham for this season was more than treble of what our highest earner in Geoff Cameron was being paid. Of course, Charlie's salary at West Brom was even higher still. But he's out of contract and unlikely another big deal like that.
We know from the recent past the damage you can do to morale by bringing new players on a totally different wage structure to the rest. I think it would be a mistake bringing in players on salaries of 30k or 40k a week, even if FFP would allow us to. I think you could justify paying Charlie and Johansen more than the rest of the squad, but it needs to be within reason.
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Post by alanwycombe on May 9, 2021 15:07:37 GMT
It's not just about FFP though mate. It's also about running the club in a sensible and sustainable manner. I'd say the big difference between Austin and Johansen is the fact Austin is out if contract and Johansen isn't. It's the reason I'm far more confident that a deal can be brokered with Austin that works for everyone. For Johansen, I'm unsure what relegation causes are in his deal. But what I do know is we couldn't afford to pay him what he's been getting at Fulham in the Prem. This presents a problem unless Fulham are happy to take a hit on part of his salary for the remaining year of his deal. I suppose the big question is whether Fulham want him for next season. If they don't, it will be a much easier deal to make. Can't think why they wouldn't though. Very handy player at Championship level. They’ll want him back, half their team is made up of loans isn’t it? They won’t stay.
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Post by Tarbie on May 9, 2021 15:10:38 GMT
It's not just about FFP though mate. It's also about running the club in a sensible and sustainable manner. I'd say the big difference between Austin and Johansen is the fact Austin is out if contract and Johansen isn't. It's the reason I'm far more confident that a deal can be brokered with Austin that works for everyone. For Johansen, I'm unsure what relegation causes are in his deal. But what I do know is we couldn't afford to pay him what he's been getting at Fulham in the Prem. This presents a problem unless Fulham are happy to take a hit on part of his salary for the remaining year of his deal. I suppose the big question is whether Fulham want him for next season. If they don't, it will be a much easier deal to make. Can't think why they wouldn't though. Very handy player at Championship level. They’ll want him back, half their team is made up of loans isn’t it? They won’t stay. My thoughts too mate. Hence I don't really think we'll get him.
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Post by alanwycombe on May 9, 2021 15:15:21 GMT
We’ve always got Carroll☹️ Let’s hope he’s been watching and taking notes.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 9, 2021 15:19:51 GMT
We know from the recent past the damage you can do to morale by bringing new players on a totally different wage structure to the rest. I think it would be a mistake bringing in players on salaries of 30k or 40k a week, even if FFP would allow us to. I think you could justify paying Charlie and Johansen more than the rest of the squad, but it needs to be within reason. I certainly think it's possible to maintain a good squad morale even with players on quite widely varying salaries (within reason, agreed). Warbs would be skilled in that area too. Players aren't stupid either. They understand the wide range of variables influencing it: age, length of contract, injury record, talent/ability, track record, playing position etc etc.
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Post by awin on May 9, 2021 15:58:53 GMT
They’ll want him back, half their team is made up of loans isn’t it? They won’t stay. My thoughts too mate. Hence I don't really think we'll get him. He’s obviously fallen out with Parker, it’s more dependant on whether Parker stays.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 9, 2021 16:36:09 GMT
We’ve always got Carroll☹️ Let’s hope he’s been watching and taking notes. Well at least you came round to him for a while 😅
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