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Post by James1979 on Apr 9, 2023 9:58:55 GMT
www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.phpDoes this mean we can spend what we want on transfers as long as get wages under control? Sounds great, sack all the coaches and players and buy new ones.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 9, 2023 10:02:51 GMT
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 9, 2023 10:08:37 GMT
Interesting - which begs the question if Ainsworth wd be the man for us - he might have League One experience, but probably all the wrong experience and drawing all the wrong lessons. Ironically it’s the kind of job made for Critchley (and yes I’m a hypocrite because I wanted him gone)
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Post by 1qprdk on Apr 9, 2023 10:21:46 GMT
Shame that owners can keep all the nonplaying staff and directors if they want. Would be nice if they were forced to get rid.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 9, 2023 11:35:54 GMT
Interesting D Mac tweet re no FFP in league 1. Maybe relegation is all part of the master plan.
Two problems though: Ainsworth (who wouldn't be suited in any way to an ability based recruitment approach) and our horrendous recruitment history. Plus even with expenditure there's always a chance of not getting back up.
I just can't see us not fucking it up, as per usual.
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Post by James1979 on Apr 9, 2023 12:35:11 GMT
Interesting - which begs the question if Ainsworth wd be the man for us - he might have League One experience, but probably all the wrong experience and drawing all the wrong lessons. Ironically it’s the kind of job made for Critchley (and yes I’m a hypocrite because I wanted him gone) Exactly how I feel. I’d swap Critchley for Ainsworth in a heartbeat.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 9, 2023 13:21:13 GMT
Interesting D Mac tweet re no FFP in league 1. Maybe relegation is all part of the master plan. Two problems though: Ainsworth (who wouldn't be suited in any way to an ability based recruitment approach) and our horrendous recruitment history. Plus even with expenditure there's always a chance of not getting back up. I just can't see us not fucking it up, as per usual. If there is any chance of relegation being part of a master plan (I can’t think it is…?) and this explains the dismal performances, then this is my 60th and last season coming here. No way could I stomach that. Bad enough that ending up relegated legitimately wouldn’t be such a big deal for the owners.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 9, 2023 13:29:23 GMT
It’s convenient that it could be a cunning plan when in reality we just shit and don’t deserve to stay up
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Post by West Acton on Apr 9, 2023 14:31:58 GMT
Alan and Hal your not seriously thinking relegation is plan 😂🤣😂
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 9, 2023 14:43:37 GMT
Alan and Hal your not seriously thinking relegation is plan 😂🤣😂 Well it would explain the absolute dog's breakfast of a football club that we currently enjoy. But like I said, being QPR we'd only fuck it up. You'd need wealthy, ruthless, ambitious, clued up owners for it to work. Our lot only tick one of those boxes.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 9, 2023 14:59:46 GMT
Alan and Hal your not seriously thinking relegation is plan 😂🤣😂 ”(I can’t think it is…?)”
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Post by West Acton on Apr 9, 2023 16:25:21 GMT
Alan and Hal your not seriously thinking relegation is plan 😂🤣😂 Well it would explain the absolute dog's breakfast of a football club that we currently enjoy. But like I said, being QPR we'd only fuck it up. You'd need wealthy, ruthless, ambitious, clued up owners for it to work. Our lot only tick one of those boxes. so they called players in and said stop winning? We want go down. Then guys if we do we get players to replace you. Did they also sack critchley because they thought he was on the verge of going on a winning run. I’m not sure I’m going with that personally.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 9, 2023 18:38:27 GMT
Well it would explain the absolute dog's breakfast of a football club that we currently enjoy. But like I said, being QPR we'd only fuck it up. You'd need wealthy, ruthless, ambitious, clued up owners for it to work. Our lot only tick one of those boxes. so they called players in and said stop winning? We want go down. Then guys if we do we get players to replace you. Did they also sack critchley because they thought he was on the verge of going on a winning run. I’m not sure I’m going with that personally. No I don't think it entered their heads. For starters, like I said earlier, Ainsworth would be the wrong gaffer for a stroke like that and Les the wrong DoF. But - we are where we are and if they've any suss at all they will be looking hard the implications of the drop and the route map back. Fans already are, as the D Mac thread shows. Nice post up btw.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jun 4, 2023 20:25:49 GMT
Wigan starting League One minus 8 points due to poor finances.
Two of their directors resigned today as the owners’ promised deadline to pay staff by June 2nd came and went, with no-one being paid.
BBC says that “the situation has worrying echoes of 2020, when Wigan was put into administration by owners who refused to invest any more money into a club that, like many in the English Football League, loses money.”
How far away are we from that I wonder…
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jun 4, 2023 20:50:49 GMT
Wigan starting League One minus 8 points due to poor finances. Two of their directors resigned today as the owners’ promised deadline to pay staff by June 2nd came and went, with no-one being paid. BBC says that “the situation has worrying echoes of 2020, when Wigan was put into administration by owners who refused to invest any more money into a club that, like many in the English Football League, loses money.” How far away are we from that I wonder… 207 miles
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Post by acricketer on Jun 24, 2023 21:43:49 GMT
I think that EPL revenues will eventually plunge clubs that don't make it to the promised land further down the leagues as wealthier relegatees regroup.
We are on a downward spiral and will soon see the Championship as the pot of gold.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 26, 2023 19:12:22 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jun 26, 2023 19:18:06 GMT
Southend have had enough of these to wallpaper their boardroom and still here. Reading will still be here with this
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Post by Corbray on Jun 26, 2023 19:21:16 GMT
mental how this shit keeps happening and how the FA continues to allow dodgey investors to take over clubs.
i can't stand reading but i don't want them to go out of existance (i doubt they will)
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 26, 2023 19:24:21 GMT
mental how this shit keeps happening and how the FA continues to allow dodgey investors to take over clubs. i can't stand reading but i don't want them to go out of existance (i doubt they will) I dunno mate. I think the world might actually be a better place without them! 🤣
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 11, 2023 14:01:25 GMT
we know we're hit hard from FFP We're constantly being told this, almost used like some kind of an excuse made for when we lose. However, out of interest, which club is NOT "hit hard from FFP", other than the teams on parachute payments?
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Post by Corbray on Jul 11, 2023 14:21:04 GMT
we know we're hit hard from FFP We're constantly being told this, almost used like some kind of an excuse made for when we lose. However, out of interest, which club is NOT "hit hard from FFP", other than the teams on parachute payments? all of them are but i feel like we struggle with it more due to years of transfer mismanagement. aside from eze we've not been able to sell anyone for significant fees, even furlong was a steal at 2m for WBA. infact we've lost money on a lot of signings like bonne. the accounts don't lie and we're losing what, 2m a month? hoos has gone in depth about our finances multiple times and the need to get it more in order.
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Post by Greg1882 on Jul 11, 2023 14:25:22 GMT
we know we're hit hard from FFP We're constantly being told this, almost used like some kind of an excuse made for when we lose. However, out of interest, which club is NOT "hit hard from FFP", other than the teams on parachute payments? Exactly. Luton and Coventry would have been operating under similar and in Luton’s case smaller budgets than rangers and both played in the play off final and Luton, fucking Luton, are a premier league club. I’m sick and tired of this ffp bollocks, we know money is tight but that doesn’t give the club the right to repeatedly use it as a smokescreen for piss poor management and recruitment time after time. Club needs to sort itself out
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Post by 2Loftus on Jul 11, 2023 14:28:09 GMT
Yes, £2m a month loss - that's selling 12 Seny Diengs a year to break even... Hopefully Eze gets a £120m transfer to PSG and we get a massive sell-on fee...
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 11, 2023 14:32:43 GMT
Thing is we got money, we just spunk it on old players with little or no resale value or skill
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Post by Greg1882 on Jul 11, 2023 14:36:36 GMT
Yes, £2m a month loss - that's selling 12 Seny Diengs a year to break even... Hopefully Eze gets a £120m transfer to PSG and we get a massive sell-on fee... So what’s the excuse for spending what little money we do seem to scrape together every year on players that aren’t even capable of playing games or breaking down every other game. It’s gross incompetence
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 11, 2023 14:48:24 GMT
Basically our policy is to bring either over 30s or fill the reserves with players that been released by so called bigger clubs for a good reason but we think they must be wrong. So we give them a season and find out that’s why there the bigger clubs because they was right. And then we release them.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jul 11, 2023 14:54:21 GMT
Basically our policy is to bring either over 30s or fill the reserves with players that been released by so called bigger clubs for a good reason but we think they must be wrong. So we give them a season and find out that’s why there the bigger clubs because they was right. And then we release them. I think you've got it - have you applied for the role of DoF!? Or maybe the American analysis consultants are reading this forum - if so, expect a DM any day Leigh....
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 11, 2023 15:18:17 GMT
We're constantly being told this, almost used like some kind of an excuse made for when we lose. However, out of interest, which club is NOT "hit hard from FFP", other than the teams on parachute payments? All of them are Agreed. Therefore it really is about time we stopped using it as an excuse.
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Post by The General on Jul 11, 2023 15:39:57 GMT
If Reading go can we move to Majeski its perfect size for us
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