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Post by rscot on Apr 17, 2021 20:32:24 GMT
With the turnaround since New Year, improved team performances, good team spirit, finishing the season in the top halve, potentially as high as eighth. It’s been said that now is the time for the Board to back MW, allow him to try to keep the loaned players and strengthen the team / squad with a couple more signings in the summer. I agree, I think that the team/squad with the right additions and trimmed where necessary could well be fighting for a play off place next season.
So for arguments sake, let’s say the board agree to back MW and the club manage to sign all the loan players. What should MW be looking to do in the transfer market?
Well I think I probably have different thoughts than MW in how he should shape/mould the team/squad. It’s obvious that a new right wing back is needed. So I’d let go of Kane, I’d only play Kakay as a wing back, I don’t think he looks comfortable defensively as a right centre halve. Now I mentioned Shaun Rooney of St Johnstone as a possible signing in another thread. He’s 6 ft 3, strong, aggressive, has good pace, a good engine / work rate and is a decent footballer, he’s 24 y/o so at an age where he will improve in the right environment. I’ve mentioned Declan Gallagher a centre halve who could play in the middle of the 3 or on the right, also as a possible signing, again similar to Rooney, he’s big, 6ft 5 or 6ft 6, strong, aggressive, good pace.
This is what I’d be looking to add at the back whether in the right or left wing back role, or in centre halve. Physicality, power, height, pace, aggressive, work rate. That’s what I believe the team / squad needs, especially in the back 5. The squad already has the footballing ability, craft, guile, intelligence etc needed. I think it’s just needs a bit of pace and to be a big meaner, tougher, more aggressive at the back and they are there. If all the loaned players are kept, the team / squad is fine in midfield and attack. Barbet and Dickie are both very good in their respective positions, and both good on the ball. Add some pace, more height, strength, physicality, aggression to the back line and the team looks like a competitive one, one capable of getting into the play offs.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 17, 2021 20:41:34 GMT
Good post rscot but you have not mentioned de Wijs anywhere. Perhaps you missed him when you were away. He's been excellent for us at the back, when fit, and has all the attributes you mention.
Also it is certainly not safe to assume we'll keep all the loanees.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 17, 2021 20:43:18 GMT
With the turnaround since New Year, improved team performances, good team spirit, finishing the season in the top halve, potentially as high as eighth. It’s been said that now is the time for the Board to back MW, allow him to try to keep the loaned players and strengthen the team / squad with a couple more signings in the summer. I agree, I think that the team/squad with the right additions and trimmed where necessary could well be fighting for a play off place next season. So for arguments sake, let’s say the board agree to back MW and the club manage to sign all the loan players. What should MW be looking to do in the transfer market? Well I think I probably have different thoughts than MW in how he should shape/mould the team/squad. It’s obvious that a new right wing back is needed. So I’d let go of Kane, I’d only play Kakay as a wing back, I don’t think he looks comfortable defensively as a right centre halve. Now I mentioned Shaun Rooney of St Johnstone as a possible signing in another thread. He’s 6 ft 3, strong, aggressive, has good pace, a good engine / work rate and is a decent footballer, he’s 24 y/o so at an age where he will improve in the right environment. I’ve mentioned Declan Gallagher a centre halve who could play in the middle of the 3 or on the right, also as a possible signing, again similar to Rooney, he’s big, 6ft 5 or 6ft 6, strong, aggressive, good pace. This is what I’d be looking to add at the back whether in the right or left wing back role, or in centre halve. Physicality, power, height, pace, aggressive, work rate. That’s what I believe the team / squad needs, especially in the back 5. The squad already has the footballing ability, craft, guile, intelligence etc needed. I think it’s just needs a bit of pace and to be a big meaner, tougher, more aggressive at the back and they are there. If all the loaned players are kept, the team / squad is fine in midfield and attack. Barbet and Dickie are both very good in their respective positions, and both good on the ball. Add some pace, more height, strength, physicality, aggression to the back line and the team looks like a competitive one, one capable of getting into the play offs. God old jimmy krankie needs to open up jocklands pub gardens as you got way too much time on ya mits for a sat night |
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Post by rscot on Apr 17, 2021 20:57:38 GMT
Good post rscot but you have not mentioned de Wijs anywhere. Perhaps you missed him when you were away. He's been excellent for us at the back, when fit, and has all the attributes you mention. Also it is certainly not safe to assume we'll keep all the loanees. I like de Wijs, and I did say that “assuming all the loaned players were signed”. I still think another cb is needed though, especially if Cameron goes. De Wijs is strong and is good on the ball, he’s definitely one I’d keep in the squad ( to compete for the centre of the 3 and against Barbet) However, he does lack a bit of height and pace though and hopefully he’s not injury prone and it’s just been a bit of bad luck, which happens. Given the choice though between De Wijs and Gallagher, I’d take Gallagher. The two players I’ve mentioned, Gallagher wouldn’t cost anything and Rooney, £3-400,000. So for less than 1/2 million you could potentially solve your issues at the back, just leaving the left wing back position. Again I’d be looking for something similar to Rooney on the left, someone tall, strong, pace to compete with Wallace. Unfortunately I don’t know of any such player up here in Scotland, but there’s got to be one down South that can be picked up fairly cheaply. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 17, 2021 21:07:53 GMT
Wingbacks on both sides are a number 1 priority imo. Other than Wallace we are short in that area.
After that I'd say Barbet needs a bit of competition.
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Post by rscot on Apr 17, 2021 21:13:19 GMT
Wingbacks on both sides are a number 1 priority imo. Other than Wallace we are short in that area. After that I'd say Barbet needs a bit of competition. I’d have a look at Rooney at St Johnstone for the right wing back position. De Wijs can compete with Barbet, especially if someone like Gallagher is brought in and Masterton called back into the squad. 5 CB is probably needed over a season when playing 3 CB at the back. I personally think that Gallagher is the best CB Scotland have (not counting Tierney who plays as a left centre halve). I think he’s better than Hanley at Norwich, Cooper at Leeds, McKenna at Forest. Admittedly CB is one of the weakest area of the Scotland squad, but I’d have Gallagher before any of those I’ve mentioned (obviously except Tierney) |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 17, 2021 21:20:45 GMT
De Wijs can compete with Barbet de Wijs and Dickie are starters when both fit. Barbet I'd say is the most in need of competition and in that regard I agree we need at least one more CB. Masterson is a good prospect too and he may well be back next season. |
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Post by rscot on Apr 17, 2021 21:41:58 GMT
De Wijs can compete with Barbet de Wijs and Dickie are starters when both fit. Barbet I'd say is the most in need of competition and in that regard I agree we need at least one more CB. Masterson is a good prospect too and he may well be back next season. De Wijs can play on the left or in the middle of the back 3. If someone else, like Gallagher is brought in to add depth / cover and competition in the middle and right of the back 3, it maybe that De Wijs may end up in direct competition with Barbet for a starting place on the left. It would be interesting to see how De Wijs played on the left side of the 3. Barbet has done very well there since the switch to 3 at the back though. But the extra competition from another good CB would be good for the team / squad. I think Gallagher would be a very good fit for QPR at this time. |
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Post by Corbray on Apr 18, 2021 1:34:22 GMT
de wijs isn't as 'cultured' as barbet or dickie imo. he's competent on the ball sure but he's more of an old school CB who reminds me a bit of leistner. you know you can count on him to put a tackle in and to do the dirty work etc.
don't know how i'd feel with him on the left of a back 3 as dribbling the ball out of defence doesn't seem to be his strong suit.
i've seen a lot about jason kerr as RWB, would he be any good?
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 18, 2021 7:35:06 GMT
don't know how i'd feel with de Wijs on the left of a back 3 as dribbling the ball out of defence doesn't seem to be his strong suit. Agreed. Centre of the 3 is definitely his best position. |
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Post by rscot on Apr 18, 2021 8:58:19 GMT
You’re both probably correct, that his best position is in the middle. But I’m sure I’ve heard MW say that he can play on the left and was brought in to offer competition for Barbet.
Regardless, the point / points I’m trying to make is I’d be looking at adding certain types of players to the squad and I’d be looking for them to have certain physical qualities and be decent / good footballers. I don’t believe they need to be excellent / exceptional footballers. I think the squad already has enough footballing ability within its ranks and throughout the team / squad. It just needs some pace, height, power, aggression, work rate etc. and I think they’ll be there or there about at the end of the season. And I think you won’t have to spend a lot to get the types of players I believe the squad needs. I’ve gave a couple of Scottish players who I think would fit in nicely, wouldn’t cost a lot. There’s probably a few in England that could be picked up for a small fee or are out of contract. If MW can make QPR a bit tougher, meaner, I think it’ll go a long way to improving the teams standing in the league. That’s my opinion, I think MW may see it differently and is more inclined to look for more “cultured footballers”, and try to play teams off the park. Whilst I’d be looking at playing and hustling teams off the park.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 18, 2021 10:17:36 GMT
Masterson / Vice / Dickie
Barbs onna bench he getting a bit long in tooth
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Post by rscot on Apr 18, 2021 10:25:48 GMT
Masterson / Vice / Dickie Barbs onna bench he getting a bit long in tooth Barbet is only 27, plenty of years left in him. A back 3 of Barbet. Gallagher. Dickie. Looks good to me. I’d have Masterson as cover, he’s still pretty young and inexperienced. And De Wijs as competition / back up |
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Post by Corbray on Apr 18, 2021 13:45:11 GMT
thing is if we tried to hustle and battle with teams we'd come unstuck as we've been building a side that plays nice attacking football so we'd be turning our style on its head really.
i love the way we play, it was better last season yes but we had eze, wells, hugill, bos and manning then. we've adapted superbly without them though and are on course to having a better season this year which we can build on.
sadly i can't see us bringing in johansen as fulham will certainly want him back for the championship so its gunna be tough to fill that void but i have faith that we'll manage.
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Post by The General on Apr 18, 2021 16:58:09 GMT
Main focus this year to focus on signing loan players
Add only 2 more to not unstable the squad
Keep Dieng
All the above will be a team that can challenge any team
Sign too many players and the whole things goes pear
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 18, 2021 17:44:57 GMT
Main focus this year to focus on signing loan players Agree it would be make more sense to prioritise that in the interests of stability and continuity. Then to reinforce in the positions we're weakest in. |
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Post by Shania on Apr 18, 2021 18:55:13 GMT
A striker would certainly be needed whether Austin stays(hopefully) or not.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 18, 2021 21:03:20 GMT
Masterson / Vice / Dickie Barbs onna bench he getting a bit long in tooth Barbet is only 27, plenty of years left in him. A back 3 of Barbet. Gallagher. Dickie. Looks good to me. I’d have Masterson as cover, he’s still pretty young and inexperienced. And De Wijs as competition / back upVice and Dickie are absolute no brainers. At the moment you play Barbet alongside, Masterson is next in line. |
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Post by Corbray on Apr 18, 2021 22:47:54 GMT
i think barbet gets unneccesary stick. he's been pretty damn good this season imo, i can't think of any clangers or mistakes he's made whereas i can think of a few that dickie's made.
not that dickie deserves to be called out as i do believe he's right up there as our POTY but barbet has been extremely reliable this year.
lets be honest, if you had to choose between de wijs or barbet you'd pick barbet.
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Post by rscot on Apr 24, 2021 21:45:16 GMT
Ok following on from my initial posts, I’d be looking at tightening up at the back, making the team meaner, stronger, more aggressive, add a bit of pace in a couple of positions. On top of that I also think that I have a slightly different outlook on game management than MW. If MW can add to the squad depth and a bit of quality in a couple of positions (assuming QPR keep the loan players), if MW can tighten up the team at the back, then I’d be looking at “shutting up shop” in more games. Going from an offensive 3-4-2-1 to perhaps a counter-attacking 3-5-1-1.
That’s were I probably think a bit differently from MW. MW seems to want to go and play teams off the park and stick 2,3 or 4 goals in every game. Being realistic QPR have one of the smallest budgets in the league, is it likely to play teams of the park every game and score 2+ goals each match? In football the most common result is 1-0. You still get the same 3 points.
So in my opinion next season the way to the Playoffs and success is to be a bit meaner, tighter more resilient. For example if QPR are 1-0 up, away from home against Middlesbrough or Stoke, with 25-30 minutes to go, take off Chair or Willock and put on Ball. Go 3-5-1-1 and hit on the counter. Learn to close games out, learn to “shut up shop”.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 26, 2021 11:18:30 GMT
i think barbet gets unneccesary stick. he's been pretty damn good this season imo, i can't think of any clangers or mistakes he's made whereas i can think of a few that dickie's made. not that dickie deserves to be called out as i do believe he's right up there as our POTY but barbet has been extremely reliable this year. lets be honest, if you had to choose between de wijs or barbet you'd pick barbet. 100% agree. One of our best players this season. He has been on the whole excellent. Some people just get pre-conceived ideas about a player based on their first few performances and then won't change them. I have watched every game this season (one of the only pros of this lockdown) and he has been very good. I think he may have played every league game as well so MW must agree. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 26, 2021 11:46:04 GMT
Let's be really honest,99% of time the tulip head is injured so unavailable anyway to argue either way.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 26, 2021 12:34:36 GMT
i think barbet gets unneccesary stick. he's been pretty damn good this season imo, i can't think of any clangers or mistakes he's made whereas i can think of a few that dickie's made. not that dickie deserves to be called out as i do believe he's right up there as our POTY but barbet has been extremely reliable this year. lets be honest, if you had to choose between de wijs or barbet you'd pick barbet. 100% agree. One of our best players this season. He has been on the whole excellent. Some people just get pre-conceived ideas about a player based on their first few performances and then won't change them. I have watched every game this season (one of the only pros of this lockdown) and he has been very good. I think he may have played every league game as well so MW must agree. I think most of us can see the big improvement in Barbet's game this season. Overall I don't see posts in this thread being overly critical of him, but more in the general context of what he brings to the squad. All our players, without exception, have their strengths and weaknesses, but he'd still be my first choice on the left side of a back three. |
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Post by rscot on Apr 26, 2021 13:53:21 GMT
Barbet has been very good since the change to 3 at the back, and with Wallace signing a 1 year deal, the left side of the defence looks good. Obviously another left wing back as cover/competition would be nice. And even if De Wijs is signed, I still think another CB as cover competition is needed for squad depth over a season of 46 games.
I think we are all in agreement that if the squad is kept together and the loans signed then the team could well be pushing into the top 6 next season. But it should also be remembered that the majority of the squad are still quite young and with these players it maybe that QPR have the possibility of competing for a play off place for the next few seasons.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 26, 2021 14:34:01 GMT
And even if De Wijs is signed, I still think another CB as cover competition is needed for squad depth over a season of 46 games. Like I said, Masterson. I don't think the CB area is a priority at the moment. The much bigger question is whether and to what extent the board intend to do anything beyond attempting to retaining the status quo. Until we know the answer to that we're all pissing in the wind. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 26, 2021 15:00:23 GMT
And even if De Wijs is signed, I still think another CB as cover competition is needed for squad depth over a season of 46 games. Like I said, Masterson. I don't think the CB area is a priority at the moment. The much bigger question is whether and to what extent the board intend to do anything beyond attempting to retaining the status quo. Until we know the answer to that we're all pissing in the wind. I think we would all be disappointed if we didn't give it a further push next season given what we have seen so far in 2021 |
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Post by acricketer on Apr 26, 2021 19:40:20 GMT
Played some very good stuff this season and played well on Saturday against the Champions. Bit of backing and we can look forward to top 10 next season.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 26, 2021 20:16:50 GMT
Played some very good stuff this season and played well on Saturday against the Champions. Bit of backing and we can look forward to top 10 next season. we only need a few players. sadly i can't see johansen staying as fulham will be relegated and will probably want to keep him. hopefully we keep field as he'll be a great player at this level one day. i don't think the playoffs are out of reach either as i can't see many of our players going, there will probably be a few clubs sniffing around at chair, dickie and dieng though! |
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 26, 2021 21:49:40 GMT
Agree, sadly. Johansen is the one I would keep if we could only keep one. We need a new BFG, most teams have one, but DeWijs looks like he might be more of a Grant Hall - we’ve got Ball and Thomas, not as good as Field but they’re not going anywhere and Amos is due back (hopefully in working order) - at his age Charlie will be looking for more than we’ll look to pay so unless we get creative and offers him a dual role (if he wants to stay in the game that is) I can’t see him staying - who have we got like Johansen? Only Carroll, and he slows us down with his possession game whereas Johansen can win and keep the ball PLUS make things happen around him going forward. Ideally, keep them all but I think that’s unlikely. Options mean nothing more than first refusal.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 27, 2021 12:07:53 GMT
I feel SJ is enjoying it here so you never know that may come into it. Only a year left on his contract at Fulham did I read?
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