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Post by 2Loftus on Jul 12, 2021 10:17:31 GMT
I mean your response is a straw man argument, if you read through most of the detailed and considered responses. Have to disagree. I was answering one point made by Bill that Southgate's a wanker, nothing else. Not a 'straw man' argument at all.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 12, 2021 10:21:51 GMT
I mean your response is a straw man argument, if you read through most of the detailed and considered responses. Have to disagree. I was answering one point made by Bill that Southgate's a wanker, nothing else. Not a 'straw man' argument at all. You didn't quote him though Loftus. As you didn't the assumption is that your response was a general one to people's posts. Take Corbs' post two below yours for example as to how it's misconstrued.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jul 12, 2021 10:34:12 GMT
This morning I'm even more impressed with Bukayo Saka. Humbled by his bravery. That 19 year old kid stood up when others didn't. What a hero.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 12, 2021 11:20:46 GMT
This morning I'm even more impressed with Bukayo Saka. Humbled by his bravery. That 19 year old kid stood up when others didn't. What a hero. Bang on 77. While he took the long, lonely walk to that penalty spot, with ball in hand, more senior pros hid behind Southgate for fear of being asked to take one. Shame on those cowards
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Post by West Acton on Jul 12, 2021 11:44:57 GMT
This morning I'm even more impressed with Bukayo Saka. Humbled by his bravery. That 19 year old kid stood up when others didn't. What a hero. have you seen shot of where Southgate is consoling him then he just throws both arms round Southgate likes he’s saying look after me. Heart breaking to see but same time great to see him do it as he’s reaching out I hope we look after the whole squad after this not just those that missed pens
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 12, 2021 12:01:27 GMT
This morning I'm even more impressed with Bukayo Saka. Humbled by his bravery. That 19 year old kid stood up when others didn't. What a hero. Bang on 77. While he took the long, lonely walk to that penalty spot, with ball in hand, more senior pros hid behind Southgate for fear of being asked to take one. Shame on those cowards the person who lacked balls last night was the gaffer, no one else. We were on the back foot from the moment the team sheet went on the board.
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Post by Bill on Jul 12, 2021 12:07:26 GMT
I mean your response is a straw man argument, if you read through most of the detailed and considered responses. Have to disagree. I was answering one point made by Bill that Southgate's a wanker, nothing else. Not a 'straw man' argument at all. Chances to win a tournament like this at Wembley come round very rarely. Southgate is a wanker and a bottle job and tactically naive. They were there for the taking and we tried to park the bus for 45 minutes,fucking joke and no meaning full subs in response to Mancini. Great decision !!. Kane was just trotting around at the front doing fuck all,2nd half.If yout going to try to park the bus you need everyone to defend from the front. We didnt and just got deeper and deeper and the equaliser was just a matter of when not if. Southgate did nothing to ebb the tide momentum went out the window and the rest is history. Regards the penalties surely should of prepared for that in training and told who was going to take them in advance. After all it is a major final not a kick about over the scrubs. He is the manager after all,dont give the more senior pros the opportunity to opt out,man up and tell them ffs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 13:24:05 GMT
Usual bods throwing dummy out pram
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Post by James1979 on Jul 12, 2021 15:36:53 GMT
England fans getting a lot of grief today. I was at game and 95% were fine. Loud and pissed…..but nothing bad. There will always be a small % and most of these didn’t have tickets but in a population of over 60 million, you will get a few bad eggs. We shouldn’t all be put in same group.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jul 12, 2021 15:57:41 GMT
F*cking hell, Southgate's suddenly a wanker?? Good grief, if we'd won you'd have wanted to bear his children. I despair. The better team won on the night, we were lucky to get to penalties. No, he’s not a wanker but he’s not beyond reproach either. He got it wrong in the second half having got us through the tournament to a final. You can keep your Corinthian spirit, better to take part etc. and all that bollocks, but true champions don’t waste a glorious opportunity when it presents itself. We avoided the danger teams, built confidence and scored a great goal to knock Italy out of their stride before they’d even started. Smashed out of sight, beaten by officials, injured players - swallow all that but we could and should have won that. The second half was a disaster of our own making.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jul 12, 2021 20:56:56 GMT
Class act
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Post by Rangers77 on Jul 12, 2021 20:58:26 GMT
And another 😂🤣
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 15, 2021 7:23:41 GMT
Nedum chimes in too:
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