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Post by 2Loftus on Oct 4, 2021 16:29:57 GMT
Have to say that there is NOT ONE player in the QPR squad I'm disappointed in.
Players can have an off-day, or make a mistake on the pitch. It doesn't make them a bad player or deserving of the abuse they get online. Blimey, look at the glaring mistakes you say in Prem games!
Dykes? Love him. Still lots to learn, but his never-say-die hassling of a defender and ground-level headed assist for Chair's winner sums him up for me
Dunne? Ditto. So what if he was caught the wrong side of a PNE forward and half a yard behind. He'll learn from that - but in the meantime he gives everything every game.
Treat the club as family, put up with the odd fuck-up.
I haven't felt as good about the team, the manager or the club since Warnock. And actually, I think that, as a club, we're doing things better today in terms of the club's long-term sustainability.
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Post by Greg1882 on Oct 4, 2021 16:39:12 GMT
Have to say that there is NOT ONE player in the QPR squad I'm disappointed in. Players can have an off-day, or make a mistake on the pitch. It doesn't make them a bad player or deserving of the abuse they get online. Blimey, look at the glaring mistakes you say in Prem games! Dykes? Love him. Still lots to learn, but his never-say-die hassling of a defender and ground-level headed assist for Chair's winner sums him up for me Dunne? Ditto. So what if he was caught the wrong side of a PNE forward and half a yard behind. He'll learn from that - but in the meantime he gives everything every game. Treat the club as family, put up with the odd fuck-up. I haven't felt as good about the team, the manager or the club since Warnock. And actually, I think that, as a club, we're doing things better today in terms of the club's long-term sustainability. 100% agree. That warnock side was good but without tarrabt it would have been playoffs at best. We are in a much better place now |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 4, 2021 20:36:33 GMT
Have to say that there is NOT ONE player in the QPR squad I'm disappointed in. Players can have an off-day, or make a mistake on the pitch. It doesn't make them a bad player or deserving of the abuse they get online. Blimey, look at the glaring mistakes you say in Prem games! Dykes? Love him. Still lots to learn, but his never-say-die hassling of a defender and ground-level headed assist for Chair's winner sums him up for me Dunne? Ditto. So what if he was caught the wrong side of a PNE forward and half a yard behind. He'll learn from that - but in the meantime he gives everything every game. Treat the club as family, put up with the odd fuck-up. I haven't felt as good about the team, the manager or the club since Warnock. And actually, I think that, as a club, we're doing things better today in terms of the club's long-term sustainability. That's a top post 👍 |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 5, 2021 6:15:14 GMT
Prob wrong place as Lyndon thread but on no one disappointing I do think Ball has come up short, he’s not awful but feel he’s slightly behind rest of squad and dare I say it Dieng not as solid as last season, perhaps effected by having crowd now.
Overall well happy
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 5, 2021 9:03:56 GMT
Have to say that there is NOT ONE player in the QPR squad I'm disappointed in. Players can have an off-day, or make a mistake on the pitch. It doesn't make them a bad player or deserving of the abuse they get online. Blimey, look at the glaring mistakes you say in Prem games! Dykes? Love him. Still lots to learn, but his never-say-die hassling of a defender and ground-level headed assist for Chair's winner sums him up for me Dunne? Ditto. So what if he was caught the wrong side of a PNE forward and half a yard behind. He'll learn from that - but in the meantime he gives everything every game. Treat the club as family, put up with the odd fuck-up. I haven't felt as good about the team, the manager or the club since Warnock. And actually, I think that, as a club, we're doing things better today in terms of the club's long-term sustainability. Good post. And food for thought. I like all of them too. The thing about family, mind, is that you can call them a name when momentarily exasperated and not mean it. |
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Post by Corbray on Oct 5, 2021 10:42:24 GMT
Prob wrong place as Lyndon thread but on no one disappointing I do think Ball has come up short, he’s not awful but feel he’s slightly behind rest of squad and dare I say it Dieng not as solid as last season, perhaps effected by having crowd now. Overall well happy same here and agree on ball. i can see amos starting vs fulham as he's put in some lively displays since returning. the rest of our team are performing at a 7 at least whilst ball is a 6 imo. i do like what ball brings to the team but we could improve on his role. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 5, 2021 11:02:41 GMT
Worthy of its own thread as the discussion had moved beyond just Lyndon Dykes; and posters are highlighting valid areas where the team can improve further.
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Post by 72bus on Oct 5, 2021 11:43:43 GMT
I'd like us to move the ball quicker , to many back passes in our own half . Don't mind playing like this if we are ahead In the game but 10 passes and it goes back to the full back. Get the ball to chair and willock then let them attack
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Post by Corbray on Oct 5, 2021 12:19:39 GMT
the wing back positions will need to be reviewed in the summer for sure. wallace is injured and old whilst mccallum will likely go back to norwich a much better player. RWB is inconsistent with kakay either doing his best to be the 12th man for the other team and moses as a bit too inconsistent and switched off at times.
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Post by 72bus on Oct 5, 2021 14:02:21 GMT
the wing back positions will need to be reviewed in the summer for sure. wallace is injured and old whilst mccallum will likely go back to norwich a much better player. RWB is inconsistent with kakay either doing his best to be the 12th man for the other team and moses as a bit too inconsistent and switched off at times. Kakays positioning is terrible , he doesn't read the threats very well. Hope he watches back the wba game and sees this himself |
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Post by Shania on Oct 5, 2021 14:08:41 GMT
The players need to improve their concentration, because on too many occations I feel that we should just get on with it, even when the ref etc is a .....
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 5, 2021 14:12:47 GMT
I think just getting Field, Amos, McCallum and Wallace back will be a huge boon to the squad. Almost like new signings. Then hopefully add some reinforcements in January, with a priority being RWB.
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 5, 2021 14:53:10 GMT
I'd like us to move the ball quicker , to many back passes in our own half . Don't mind playing like this if we are ahead In the game but 10 passes and it goes back to the full back. Get the ball to chair and willock then let them attack Agreed but it isn't always down to just slow passing. We need to make sure movement is good. If players aren't getting it on the half turn, or are only dropping short then you can't have tempo. Someone else mentioned Ball. I think he does a job breaking up play and he is so committed. Technically, he is lacking a bit but he gives us that bite and height that is needed. Are there better? Yeah, probably. Is it a worrying position? I'd say no personally as he is good enough for this level. Wing backs need improving. Odubajo and Mccallum are good but we have no real depth there, unless we are throwing everyone at it. Wallace is good but old so we need improving there. Probably another creative attacking player. Without Chair or Willock, who else is there? |
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 5, 2021 15:23:53 GMT
the wing back positions will need to be reviewed in the summer for sure. wallace is injured and old whilst mccallum will likely go back to norwich a much better player. RWB is inconsistent with kakay either doing his best to be the 12th man for the other team and moses as a bit too inconsistent and switched off at times. Totally. For a side that relies heavily on the width that our wing backs offer, we are pretty weak in the wing back positions. I like both our options on the left side but history tells us that Wallace misses more games than he plays. Need back another option that side for me. As for the right side, neither Moses or Kakay are terrible. In fact in some respects Moses is very good, he just has a clanger in him. Reminds me a bit of the situation with Manning where he did some things very well but let himself down with defences lapses all too frequently. Personally I'd be looking to bring in a first choice RWB and young, back up LWB in Jan. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 5, 2021 16:17:54 GMT
The players need to improve their concentration, because on too many occations I feel that we just get on with it, even when the ref etc is a ..... I’ve not seen last couple of games but Shania makes good point about concentration. We’re not conceding worldies, goals against have been mostly preventable. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Oct 5, 2021 21:07:45 GMT
As someone else has mentioned before, it would be quite interesting to see if Duke-Mckenna could be used as a RWB? He looks like a promising player full of energy, and I would like to see him get some more minutes here and there.
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Post by The General on Oct 5, 2021 21:17:07 GMT
Defence is letting us down atm not enough clean sheets stupid mistakes
We would be top three if not for this
Sort out the defence and we are going up simple
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Post by The General on Oct 5, 2021 21:18:03 GMT
Kakay is awful sorry always out of position too high up the pitch only a squad player
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Post by The General on Oct 5, 2021 21:18:34 GMT
Moses much better imho
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 5, 2021 21:40:05 GMT
As someone else has mentioned before, it would be quite interesting to see if Duke-Mckenna could be used as a RWB? He looks like a promising player full of energy, and I would like to see him get some more minutes here and there. Ahem. Thank you 😊 |
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Post by 1qprdk on Oct 5, 2021 21:42:40 GMT
As someone else has mentioned before, it would be quite interesting to see if Duke-Mckenna could be used as a RWB? He looks like a promising player full of energy, and I would like to see him get some more minutes here and there. Ahem. Thank you 😊 Sorry Stan, my memory not what it used to be  |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 5, 2021 21:44:19 GMT
No prob DK, I was just glad you agreed  |
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 6, 2021 7:41:39 GMT
As someone else has mentioned before, it would be quite interesting to see if Duke-Mckenna could be used as a RWB? He looks like a promising player full of energy, and I would like to see him get some more minutes here and there. I have never seen him play, but from what everyone says then he has the right attributes for it, if he can tackle. It'll be interesting to see if Warbs trys it after this 2 week break. First time he has had to properly train with the team so he could see how he looks in training. He hasn't had the chance to yet. Especially as Kakay is away, when they do a training match then DM could be on one team and Moses on the other. |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 6, 2021 15:38:29 GMT
yeah main problem for us is we're getting caught on the hop, not really able to cope with fast counters.
Thats a tricky one to solve when you set up like we do.
At the moment its like a 'we're gonna score one more than you' approach and tbh thats prolly ok with most fans
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Post by acricketer on Oct 6, 2021 15:59:03 GMT
I think we are organized, have a playing style that the squad understands and have clearly been coached to. I think extra pace is a commodity that we could benefit from since you can often recover your mistakes if there is an extra gear to call on.
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 6, 2021 18:06:38 GMT
I think we are organized, have a playing style that the squad understands and have clearly been coached to. Problem is that once your WBs are in the final third there has to be cover..... you could have a Roberto Carlos x 2 out there but if you don't stay switched on you still get done on the counter. |
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 6, 2021 18:44:27 GMT
I think we are organized, have a playing style that the squad understands and have clearly been coached to. Problem is that once your WBs are in the final third there has to be cover..... you could have a Roberto Carlos x 2 out there but if you don't stay switched on you still get done on the counter. I think we have a tendency to over commit at times. Doesn't seem to be a 2nd thought given to cover. Fine if we keep hold of the ball, but problems arise when we lose it in possession or misplace a pass. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 7, 2021 15:19:14 GMT
yeah main problem for us is we're getting caught on the hop, not really able to cope with fast counters. Thats a tricky one to solve when you set up like we do. At the moment its like a 'we're gonna score one more than you' approach and tbh thats prolly ok with most fans you have said what ive observed and One of the ways of addressing it which will go against the grain is telling dickies to stop marauding up the pitch. It’s great to watch but in doing so we’re out of shape If he is going to bomb on he needs learn when to do it and when not too as he’s doing it at the end of the game when we should be shutting up shop. Bristol city he lost ball half way in there half and Wells went on to score, what annoyed me was he done same thing Preston with seconds left, lost ball but Preston move broke down. That’s sign of not learning from past experiences That late in the game when you have got back in it I dont want CB getting forward I want him defending How often have you heard crowd scream shoot when he’s on ball this season that tells you how high he’s playing on occasions and I think it plays against us |
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 8, 2021 9:12:47 GMT
yeah main problem for us is we're getting caught on the hop, not really able to cope with fast counters. Thats a tricky one to solve when you set up like we do. At the moment its like a 'we're gonna score one more than you' approach and tbh thats prolly ok with most fans you have said what ive observed and One of the ways of addressing it which will go against the grain is telling dickies to stop marauding up the pitch. It’s great to watch but in doing so we’re out of shape If he is going to bomb on he needs learn when to do it and when not too as he’s doing it at the end of the game when we should be shutting up shop. Bristol city he lost ball half way in there half and Wells went on to score, what annoyed me was he done same thing Preston with seconds left, lost ball but Preston move broke down. That’s sign of not learning from past experiences That late in the game when you have got back in it I dont want CB getting forward I want him defending How often have you heard crowd scream shoot when he’s on ball this season that tells you how high he’s playing on occasions and I think it plays against us Tbf, against Bristol City we were looking to get the win, but I do agree with your sentiment of knowing when to do it. There's an argument that he's being composed and trying to keep the ball rather than just hitting it into corners and letting the opposition get the ball back. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 8, 2021 10:08:46 GMT
you have said what ive observed and One of the ways of addressing it which will go against the grain is telling dickies to stop marauding up the pitch. It’s great to watch but in doing so we’re out of shape If he is going to bomb on he needs learn when to do it and when not too as he’s doing it at the end of the game when we should be shutting up shop. Bristol city he lost ball half way in there half and Wells went on to score, what annoyed me was he done same thing Preston with seconds left, lost ball but Preston move broke down. That’s sign of not learning from past experiences That late in the game when you have got back in it I dont want CB getting forward I want him defending How often have you heard crowd scream shoot when he’s on ball this season that tells you how high he’s playing on occasions and I think it plays against us Tbf, against Bristol City we were looking to get the win, but I do agree with your sentiment of knowing when to do it. There's an argument that he's being composed and trying to keep the ball rather than just hitting it into corners and letting the opposition get the ball back. fair points sponge. Just for me once your in injury time unless your losing take what you have Preston we had come from behind so no need throw people forward 92nd minute |
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