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Post by Bill on Oct 9, 2021 20:50:43 GMT
Game management for me
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Post by shepherdsmush on Oct 10, 2021 17:29:57 GMT
Love the back 5 but we need to keep more clean sheets. Let too many teams into games we could see out easily.
Bristol City springs to mind as an example
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Post by James1979 on Oct 30, 2021 16:37:04 GMT
Change needed? Or rather maybe a tweak to the formation. From games I’ve seen we’re losing it in midfield. Need an extra body in there.
Dieng Dickie, Dunne or de Wijs, Barbet Moses or Albert (RWB) McCallum or Wallace (LWB) Ball or Field 2 of Johnsen, Amos and Dozzell Chair or Willock Austin or Gray or Dykes
I know resting Chair or Willock is controversial but I think rotating them will keep them fresh and hungry to peform.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 30, 2021 16:45:21 GMT
But we already made change from two strikers to one extra midfielder. Biggest problem imo is that both Willock and Chair have been anonymous recently, because of fatigue.
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Post by Shania on Oct 30, 2021 16:48:27 GMT
De Wijs and McCallum are out for months now I guess. Imo, we need to recall Bonne asap, but like you say we need more bodies in midfield. Dykes is also injured so heaven knows who we should play upfront. Most importantly; Bonne has to be recalled, imo.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 30, 2021 16:56:54 GMT
Bonne can't play LWB.
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Post by James1979 on Oct 30, 2021 17:22:11 GMT
But we already made change from two strikers to one extra midfielder. Biggest problem imo is that both Willock and Chair have been anonymous recently, because of fatigue. We still create chances. Play one of Chair and Willock. Allows them to stay fresh and extra midfielder should help us dominate the ball more against better sides.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 30, 2021 17:39:39 GMT
Start of season Willock and chair were playing around the edge of opposition box and causing havoc. Both now seem to be playing deeper and getting ball future from box which means they need carry it. Need get them both higher up again
Assuming they playing bit deeper to make us more solid defensively so it’s fine balancing act
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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 30, 2021 17:44:37 GMT
Start of season Willock and chair were playing around the edge of opposition box and causing havoc. Both now seem to be playing deeper and getting ball future from box which means they need carry it. Need get them both higher up again Assuming they playing bit deeper to make us more solid defensively so it’s fine balancing act That would need Johansen playing deeper. Against Forest he seemed to play just behind Dykes.
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Post by James1979 on Oct 30, 2021 17:56:11 GMT
Start of season Willock and chair were playing around the edge of opposition box and causing havoc. Both now seem to be playing deeper and getting ball future from box which means they need carry it. Need get them both higher up again Assuming they playing bit deeper to make us more solid defensively so it’s fine balancing act Playing more forwards or forward thinking players doesn’t necessarily mean that your best forward players play in more advanced positions. We’re getting pushed back because we’re losing midfield battle against good sides. Stick extra midfielder in, rotate Chair and Willock to keep them fresh.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 30, 2021 18:03:21 GMT
Not sure if rotating Willock and Chair is the answer as they both are our key players. Agree they seem tired.
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Post by James1979 on Oct 30, 2021 18:05:09 GMT
Not sure if rotating Willock and Chair is the answer as they both are our key players. Agree they seem tired. Not every game but against the stronger teams we need to change and adapt. We also need to rest them. They will still be playing just not necessarily starting every game.
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 30, 2021 18:36:09 GMT
A consistent 3-5-2 would be a plus.
And more focus when possession lost. A lot more focus.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 30, 2021 18:55:48 GMT
Think we have looked shocking two up top or it Maybe has just been the pairings
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 30, 2021 20:12:02 GMT
But we already made change from two strikers to one extra midfielder. Biggest problem imo is that both Willock and Chair have been anonymous recently, because of fatigue. I think this is spot on. They need a rest. We somehow need to grind out results without one or both of them while they rejuvenate.
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 30, 2021 20:33:40 GMT
Think we have looked shocking two up top or it Maybe has just been the pairings I reckon 3-5-2 would work but the top two have work intelligently off the ball, find space. I definitely reckon that a one up top doesn't suit Chaz and LD is hit and miss in that role.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 31, 2021 7:31:24 GMT
Dykes is an enigma - he scores goals, and while he’s doing that he can win an argument, but he really isn’t much good. A couple of recent instances where the ball has come back off the keeper and a real striker puts it away - he’s never ready for the half chance, always on his heels, and the times he blazes over like a kid with no composure is just amateurish. As for holding up or flicking on do we really see it very often? Powerful header of a ball but it’s got to be on a plate. If he doesn’t score he brings nothing to a game.
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 4, 2021 8:51:54 GMT
The reason why we see our back 3 constantly passing it side to side (then back to Dieng) is because of the lack of movement ahead of them. I would be drilling our midfielders to move and make more runs that pull oppo out of shape and create space. For me that's been the most frustrating aspect during our dip in form. Yes Gray is an exception to that. In last night's case, once we went a goal up that changed as it forced Cardiff to press more, but we need to play that way from the off, IMO.
If I could only level one criticism at Warburton this would be it. It's all the more frustrating to watch knowing that it could be easily remedied.
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Post by 2Loftus on Nov 4, 2021 15:39:55 GMT
I'm quietly pleased that Dieng has made a few errors in the last few weeks - hopefully it will put off prospective purchasers and there's more chance we can hang on to him
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 4, 2021 18:36:55 GMT
If I could only level one criticism at Warburton mine would still be the cover issue ball lost but you make a good point re movement. If you've got that you can counter with apace, which is pretty much essential.
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Post by Bill on Nov 5, 2021 23:10:23 GMT
Decision making
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Post by acricketer on Nov 7, 2021 23:18:33 GMT
Where's the ping ping ping intesity gone from earlier in the season? Chair is a headless chicken.
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Post by Corbray on Nov 8, 2021 9:34:59 GMT
Where's the ping ping ping intesity gone from earlier in the season? Chair is a headless chicken. someone else alluded it it a few days ago on here but chair and willock don't release the ball early enough nor do they get good deliveries in. they're certainly great ball carriers but don't really get those killer balls in, only wallace seems to be able to do that imo. we need more movement from our midfield and for our CBs and wing backs to push up higher as we've started sitting too deep too imo. dieng rarely carries the ball out of his box which is surprising as he's good with the ball at his feet so should be pushing out of his box more imo. we were doing that last season and the beginning of this season too but we're starting to look too pragmatic.
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 8, 2021 10:30:59 GMT
We’ve been sussed, teams close us down quickly at the back.
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Post by Shania on Nov 8, 2021 12:02:49 GMT
Use the squad. Duke- McKenna and George Thomas don`t get a look in at all. That`s poor man-mangement.
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Post by Shania on Nov 8, 2021 12:06:45 GMT
Where's the ping ping ping intesity gone from earlier in the season? Chair is a headless chicken. someone else alluded it it a few days ago on here but chair and willock don't release the ball early enough nor do they get good deliveries in. they're certainly great ball carriers but don't really get those killer balls in, only wallace seems to be able to do that imo. we need more movement from our midfield and for our CBs and wing backs to push up higher as we've started sitting too deep too imo. dieng rarely carries the ball out of his box which is surprising as he's good with the ball at his feet so should be pushing out of his box more imo. we were doing that last season and the beginning of this season too but we're starting to look too pragmatic. We need a fast CB if we aim to push them up. They are all very slow.
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Post by James1979 on Nov 8, 2021 12:48:43 GMT
We need good wing backs. So important to our system. 2 are injury prone, 1 is prone to crazy moments and the other is a bit average.
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Post by 1qprdk on Nov 8, 2021 13:41:06 GMT
Use the squad. Duke- McKenna and George Thomas don`t get a look in at all. That`s poor man-mangement. Tbf to the management team, Georginho's been mainly crap when given the chance. Duke's been good, so on that we agree, but I think they may struggle to find a balance that keeps everyone happy.
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 8, 2021 15:58:32 GMT
Itching to have a look at D-M tbh. Will probably be sent out on loan before we see if he can add something. Let’s at least see if he can take his chance here first.
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 9, 2021 14:14:25 GMT
Where's the ping ping ping intesity gone from earlier in the season? Chair is a headless chicken. someone else alluded it it a few days ago on here but chair and willock don't release the ball early enough And both are capable of that = coaching issue. Also we've never looked that comfortable when pressed, and although its not as catastrophic as was when Joe L took all the flak there's still room for improvement.
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