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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 16, 2019 19:11:19 GMT
Still young, still a prospect, maybe too much was expected of him but still fair to say he hasn't done himself too many favours lately. Nice touch, clearly skilful but it isn't a circus (well, ok sometimes it feels like it) but it strikes me he just doesn't get it. Is that coaching or mind set?
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 16, 2019 19:43:25 GMT
Having watched his interviews he comes across to me as someone fairly lacking in self-confidence, which seems to reflect in his performances on the pitch, particularly when coming on as a sub. Despite his obvious exceptional natural ability, he still seems to lack self-belief. A big game temperament is needed to properly make the grade. If he can sort that side of his game out, with the help of some good sports psychology and coaching then we definitely have a player on our hands. My sense is that’s all that’s lacking in his game. If you listen to interviews with his contempories like Lumley and BOS they come across as far more confident and self-assured than Eze. Getting your head right is massive in top level sports. Taarabt, a similar type of player, again always came across as super confident in interviews, even from a young age.
PS. Welcome Alan. Glad you finally made it over 😁
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Post by West Acton on Feb 16, 2019 19:47:58 GMT
We were desperate for a youth player to break in and pinned all our hopes on him. He’s a superb prospect but possibly not quite as good at this stage as many had hoped
I have be honest and say if we got a good offer I would take it
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 16, 2019 21:25:57 GMT
It's like The Great Escape on here. Making our way out of the Stalag to freedom in dribs and drabs....
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Post by QPRDave on Feb 16, 2019 21:33:10 GMT
He'll be a very good player imo. Poor bugger is being compared to Adel, or even Bowles.
Too much pressure on a fantasically skilled player.
He will never be your "carthorse" type, he is an old school entertainer that needs
to a team built for him, like Warnock did for Adel.
Not sure we can do it here or if anyone in this country will want that, but his game is
about individual skill and flair, but needs to be accommodated
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 16, 2019 22:00:57 GMT
Struggling with this, largely because I don't want to diss the boy, in the parlance of our times, but I can't see what the fuss is. What, exactly, is he? He's neither a striker, a winger or a midfielder. No 10? He's not that good to build a team around. Languid, if not slow, and never plays with any directness or urgency. I expect the not tracking back, but he shows no hunger. None. Nor directness. Plays sideways or backwards too often. Often can't stay in his feet. Flashes of brilliance? Yep. Not as many as Freeman game in game out. Ball skills? Sure. But the guy doing marvellous tricks outside the National Gallery isn't a footballer...... Wouldn't be in my team at present. Nor on the bench. I knew he'd be pants last night and he was. Am still fuming at Steve for making those changes to introduce him at the cost of disrupting the team and stalling our momentum. Maybe it's me.....
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Post by BrightonR on Feb 16, 2019 22:07:57 GMT
He’s a talented boy.
But at the moment, he’s absolutely miles behind someone like Adel as a footballer, although he probably has got a better temperament in terms of listening to people.
Not fair to expect him to change games just like that. I thought it was quite ridiculous that no sooner had he come on last night, senior players were looking for him as a first resort rather than the correct option. Couple of years time maybe, but grossly unfair on him now.
He’ll be better next year and the year after that, provided we do it sensibly. I think someone like young Smyth or Chair will always look as if they are having more of an impact, although that’s possibly just down to style of play.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 16, 2019 22:31:58 GMT
I just think he suffers from stage fright. The burden of expectation that’s been placed on him hasn’t helped either, as he lacks the temperament to rise to the occasion, for now at least.
Don’t get me wrong, I certainly wasn’t comparing him to Taarabt’s level earlier. I only meant that they play in similar positions.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 16, 2019 22:37:37 GMT
Having watched his interviews he comes across to me as someone fairly lacking in self-confidence, which seems to reflect in his performances on the pitch, particularly when coming on as a sub. Despite his obvious exceptional natural ability, he still seems to lack self-belief. A big game temperament is needed to properly make the grade. If he can sort that side of his game out, with the help of some good sports psychology and coaching then we definitely have a player on our hands. My sense is that’s all that’s lacking in his game. If you listen to interviews with his contempories like Lumley and BOS they come across as far more confident and self-assured than Eze. Getting your head right is massive in top level sports. Taarabt, a similar type of player, again always came across as super confident in interviews, even from a young age. PS. Welcome Alan. Glad you finally made it over 😁 Me and technology? This is a triumph! |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 16, 2019 22:57:03 GMT
Having watched his interviews he comes across to me as someone fairly lacking in self-confidence, which seems to reflect in his performances on the pitch, particularly when coming on as a sub. Despite his obvious exceptional natural ability, he still seems to lack self-belief. A big game temperament is needed to properly make the grade. If he can sort that side of his game out, with the help of some good sports psychology and coaching then we definitely have a player on our hands. My sense is that’s all that’s lacking in his game. If you listen to interviews with his contempories like Lumley and BOS they come across as far more confident and self-assured than Eze. Getting your head right is massive in top level sports. Taarabt, a similar type of player, again always came across as super confident in interviews, even from a young age. PS. Welcome Alan. Glad you finally made it over 😁 Me and technology? This is a triumph! Can I assist you with an avatar? 😉 |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 17, 2019 8:45:36 GMT
He is talented so what he needs now is coaching. As 77 says he plays at one pace he needs he taught when to slow the game and when to quicken it up. I hope they let Ramsey get a grip of him and coach him the nitty gritty of what he should be doing. With his ability he should be frightening opposition defences but currently they probably look forward to facing him
His position for me would be in the hole between midfield and front man getting it, driving with the ball and dictating the game. He has skill to be that player but does he have the desire??
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Post by Hitman34 on Feb 17, 2019 14:39:11 GMT
It's like The Great Escape on here. Making our way out of the Stalag to freedom in dribs and drabs.... Just been on there. Seems like the stalag have twigged that something is up. All my private pms going back 2 or 3 years have been wiped. |
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Post by BrightonR on Feb 17, 2019 14:57:31 GMT
It's like The Great Escape on here. Making our way out of the Stalag to freedom in dribs and drabs.... Just been on there. Seems like the stalag have twigged that something is up. All my private pms going back 2 or 3 years have been wiped. Oh. Doesn’t sound good if that’s happened. Mine are still there, although I’m going to need to get rid of quite a few as the storage is at maximum and I‘ve quite a few to send tonight. 😉 |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 17, 2019 17:20:21 GMT
Me and technology? This is a triumph! Can I assist you with an avatar? 😉 Cheers mate but don't want to rob westy of the chance to shine |
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Post by acricketer on Feb 18, 2019 23:07:53 GMT
Eze needs to swagger.
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Post by Hitman34 on Mar 11, 2019 17:45:01 GMT
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Mar 11, 2019 17:48:57 GMT
I'd be happy with that much too but I've absolutely no problem if the club says £10m. If a club wants Eze and they're prepared to say alright then 10m, fair fucks to the club lol. |
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 12, 2019 3:29:06 GMT
Personally I don't think he's worth that, but at the same time he's a player we don't need to let go on the cheap. He has a long contract, he isn't making any noises about wanting a move, and it seems there are a number of clubs interested.
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Post by James1979 on Mar 12, 2019 7:23:40 GMT
10m and keep Freeman would be good business. We’d need to get 9-10 plates in mind 😀
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Post by James1979 on Mar 12, 2019 7:23:54 GMT
Players that is
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Post by West Acton on Mar 12, 2019 8:56:54 GMT
Market is crazy for young English players so could see 10mil
How much did Bowler do Everton for??? Was it 2.5mil
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Mar 12, 2019 9:03:43 GMT
Market is crazy for young English players so could see 10mil How much did Bowler do Everton for??? Was it 2.5mil I had forgotten about that. Does anyone know if he is anywhere near the first team yet? |
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Post by Vespa on Mar 12, 2019 13:13:56 GMT
Market is crazy for young English players so could see 10mil How much did Bowler do Everton for??? Was it 2.5mil I had forgotten about that. Does anyone know if he is anywhere near the first team yet? i think he`s charging people to mind their cars outside Goodison these days ! |
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 12, 2019 13:44:21 GMT
Market is crazy for young English players so could see 10mil How much did Bowler do Everton for??? Was it 2.5mil I had forgotten about that. Does anyone know if he is anywhere near the first team yet? Actually looked into that a bit after I read this thread earlier. Seems to be doing well for their U23's, but that doesn't neccesarilly mean he's anywhere near the first team. Ripe for a seasons loan next year perhaps? |
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Post by West Acton on Apr 27, 2019 8:34:20 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 27, 2019 10:03:54 GMT
I love the way all the players come out and say how gutted they are to see a manager go after the fact.
If Eze really feels that way then he should have rolled his sleeves up and dug out some performances in the 2nd half of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 10:06:50 GMT
Modern players Tarbie. All the same say the right things on camera and do the wrong things on the pitch.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 27, 2019 11:12:54 GMT
He didn't get that many games to be fair.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 27, 2019 11:31:35 GMT
He didn't get that many games to be fair. But how has he looked when he has played mate? To me, he looks totally disinterested and has done for months now. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 27, 2019 11:38:38 GMT
He didn't get that many games to be fair. But also played in a fair few in which he was clearly below par before eventually being dropped - which was the correct decision but just should have been made earlier, for the lad's own sake more than anything, as clearly self-confidence is not one of his strong points. Classic example of a player requiring the right balance between getting the odd kick up the backside - and nurturing and protecting. You get the impression he hasn't received that balance at QPR and has been over-mollycoddled thus far. |
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