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Post by BrightonR on Aug 28, 2020 12:42:10 GMT
As I've been saying for a long time, the board are just running a holding operation to minimalise losses in the hope that a property deal or takeover turns up without us actually getting relegated (which would seriously devalue the club's market status.) Nothing shows the true lack of ambition more evidently than this, since lets not kid ourselves, Eze is nowhere near the sort of value that would force people with the resources of our owners to sell come what may. We're a long way below Palace and even Brentford in terms of financial management. In fact we're miles behind them in almost every single respect. Or maybe we really have simply started to operate sensibly. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Aug 28, 2020 13:25:05 GMT
Good luck to him. Was great to watch and hopefully he'll push on now.
That said, I do hope Palace are relegated.
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Post by Hitman34 on Aug 28, 2020 13:49:50 GMT
As I've been saying for a long time, the board are just running a holding operation to minimalise losses in the hope that a property deal or takeover turns up without us actually getting relegated (which would seriously devalue the club's market status.) Nothing shows the true lack of ambition more evidently than this, since lets not kid ourselves, Eze is nowhere near the sort of value that would force people with the resources of our owners to sell come what may. We're a long way below Palace and even Brentford in terms of financial management. In fact we're miles behind them in almost every single respect. Or maybe we really have simply started to operate sensibly. no chance. the owners (bungle and co) are just clawing back some of the money that they spunked up the wall. if warburton does not get 6mil to spend and that wee have to put up with tom farking caroll for a season, then i give up. bungle and gangoolie needs to sell up and now. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 28, 2020 13:53:47 GMT
As I've been saying for a long time, the board are just running a holding operation to minimalise losses in the hope that a property deal or takeover turns up without us actually getting relegated (which would seriously devalue the club's market status.) Nothing shows the true lack of ambition more evidently than this, since lets not kid ourselves, Eze is nowhere near the sort of value that would force people with the resources of our owners to sell come what may. We're a long way below Palace and even Brentford in terms of financial management. In fact we're miles behind them in almost every single respect. The reason we have to sell Eze are well documented and due to FFP. The rules can't be ignored just because you have rich owners as we found to our cost. This actually shows we are making good progress imo. How many clubs had rejected Eze before we took him on, developed him and have sold him for nearly £16m which could realistically turn to £25m or £30m. That is impressive in my books. Also, how come when Brentford are doing exactly that sort of thing they get lauded whilst we are derided? |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 28, 2020 13:54:54 GMT
Or maybe we really have simply started to operate sensibly. no chance. the owners (bungle and co) are just clawing back some of the money that they spunked up the wall. if warburton does not get 6mil to spend and that wee have to put up with tom farking caroll for a season, then i give up. bungle and gangoolie needs to sell up and now. If I had a pound for every time you said you would give up, I might just be able to retire a few years early. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 28, 2020 14:18:03 GMT
no chance. the owners (bungle and co) are just clawing back some of the money that they spunked up the wall. if warburton does not get 6mil to spend and that wee have to put up with tom farking caroll for a season, then i give up. bungle and gangoolie needs to sell up and now. If I had a pound for every time you said you would give up, I might just be able to retire a few years early. Wait till end of year,you probably be redundant like millions of others,so can😊 |
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Post by hal9thou on Aug 28, 2020 15:03:01 GMT
As I've been saying for a long time, the board are just running a holding operation to minimalise losses in the hope that a property deal or takeover turns up without us actually getting relegated (which would seriously devalue the club's market status.) Nothing shows the true lack of ambition more evidently than this, since lets not kid ourselves, Eze is nowhere near the sort of value that would force people with the resources of our owners to sell come what may. We're a long way below Palace and even Brentford in terms of financial management. In fact we're miles behind them in almost every single respect. We are now operating in exactly the same way as any other club who are sanction clear. That means that in reality there are various options open. Moreover now that the concept of FFP has been successfully challenged in Europe, the system is vulnerable in the UK and the EFL are on the defensive. Ironically, one of the problems with FFP is the exact opposite of what you said: rich owners are far more likely to be able to navigate around it these days (Man City, PSG). Our problem was that our rich owners were simply not up to speed. And, to be fair to them, FFP looks a lot more challengable now than it did then.
Re Brentford - I just think they've been smarter than us, more forward looking and made better appointments. Uncle repeated his Caterham mistakes, he got out of his depth and into trouble, and I don't think he can see the big picture anymore. I think he wants out, but that is speculative.
Re Stan - a property deal depends entirely on our ability to get rehoused, but if that card comes up then QPR holdings are going to make a lot of money. It's a long term punt. The other alternative is a take over - reading between the lines of the Charlton deal it does seem as though we were prepared to at least consider offers, and why wouldn't they? Like I said, just treading water suits the board. It's their preferred strategy.
ps re Holdings Barclays HK still have outstanding charges on LR
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 28, 2020 15:25:02 GMT
Re Stan - a property deal depends entirely on our ability to get rehoused, but if that card comes up then QPR holdings are going to make a lot of money. It's a long term punt. You mean from the sale of LR? If so, how much would that profit be offset by our rehousing costs? You think it's that substantial? Also, how much would the board be committed to reinvesting the sale of LR back into the club and its recruitment? How much can anyone be sure of such details....it's all largely speculation isn't it? |
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Post by 1qprdk on Aug 28, 2020 16:24:29 GMT
Good luck Ebs. Thank you for everything. Stay grounded and the world will be at your feet!
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Post by Shania on Aug 28, 2020 18:09:21 GMT
Wish you all the best,Eze. Thank you for some of the best moments I`ve had watching QPR!!
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Post by hal9thou on Aug 28, 2020 20:03:58 GMT
Re Stan - a property deal depends entirely on our ability to get rehoused, but if that card comes up then QPR holdings are going to make a lot of money. It's a long term punt. You mean from the sale of LR? If so, how much would that profit be offset by our rehousing costs? You think it's that substantial? Also, how much would the board be committed to reinvesting the sale of LR back into the club and its recruitment? How much can anyone be sure of such details....it's all largely speculation isn't it? Property is by its very nature a speculative investment, but Holdings are not going to do any deal which doesn't make financial sense, and that means a healthy return. Let's face it, they aren't going to make any money on the park without a modicum of investment and that simply isn't happening, eg the Eze wedge wont be ploughed back wholesale. Realistically they either cut losses if a buyer comes along or hold out at rock bottom outlay and cross everything that the whole re-homing project goes ahead. The problem with that narrative is that you are effectively abandoning hope of a place at the big table and risk dropping even further down the league.
You can't just magic up quality. It is possible with astute coaching and management to nab a play off spot with a limited ability squad but imo we dont have that caliber of coaching.
To get out of this league in the right direction with an average squad you need someone pretty special running the show, and for whatever reason we've been stuck with Les and a bunch of highly questionable managerial appointments.
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Post by Greg1882 on Aug 28, 2020 21:09:28 GMT
As I've been saying for a long time, the board are just running a holding operation to minimalise losses in the hope that a property deal or takeover turns up without us actually getting relegated (which would seriously devalue the club's market status.) Nothing shows the true lack of ambition more evidently than this, since lets not kid ourselves, Eze is nowhere near the sort of value that would force people with the resources of our owners to sell come what may. We're a long way below Palace and even Brentford in terms of financial management. In fact we're miles behind them in almost every single respect. The reason we have to sell Eze are well documented and due to FFP. The rules can't be ignored just because you have rich owners as we found to our cost. This actually shows we are making good progress imo. How many clubs had rejected Eze before we took him on, developed him and have sold him for nearly £16m which could realistically turn to £25m or £30m. That is impressive in my books. Also, how come when Brentford are doing exactly that sort of thing they get lauded whilst we are derided? Because lots of our fans are fucking morons and just want to slag the club and every opportunity. They won’t accept we’re making progress everyone at the club is out to run it in to the ground and they are all a bunch of cunts. Everything we do is shit. Some of the stuff I’ve read today is so embarrassing if you didn’t laugh you’d cry |
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 28, 2020 21:12:36 GMT
I am pleased we have bought a centre forward and are linked to others who will cost a sensible fee. Done well with Eze and now shift Messi's replacement(BOS) and we will have had a good summer
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Post by acricketer on Aug 28, 2020 22:00:43 GMT
The new 'Adel' thread
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Post by hal9thou on Aug 29, 2020 13:36:10 GMT
The reason we have to sell Eze are well documented and due to FFP. The rules can't be ignored just because you have rich owners as we found to our cost. This actually shows we are making good progress imo. How many clubs had rejected Eze before we took him on, developed him and have sold him for nearly £16m which could realistically turn to £25m or £30m. That is impressive in my books. Also, how come when Brentford are doing exactly that sort of thing they get lauded whilst we are derided? Because lots of our fans are fucking morons and just want to slag the club and every opportunity. They won’t accept we’re making progress everyone at the club is out to run it in to the ground and they are all a bunch of cunts. Everything we do is shit. Some of the stuff I’ve read today is so embarrassing if you didn’t laugh you’d cry
With the best will in the world I reckon most neutral observers (ie none of us) would say the jury was still out on that.
Personally, I've never felt everything we do is shit and I love it when we turn up. I just don't buy into to the current narrative because I don't trust the people making the decisions. Purely business, nothing personal.
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Post by Tarbie on Aug 29, 2020 14:09:54 GMT
Because lots of our fans are fucking morons and just want to slag the club and every opportunity. They won’t accept we’re making progress everyone at the club is out to run it in to the ground and they are all a bunch of cunts. Everything we do is shit. Some of the stuff I’ve read today is so embarrassing if you didn’t laugh you’d cry
With the best will in the world I reckon most neutral observers (ie none of us) would say the jury was still out on that.
Personally, I've never felt everything we do is shit and I love it when we turn up. I just don't buy into to the current narrative because I don't trust the people making the decisions. Purely business, nothing personal.
I think Ramsey and Hoos are both excellent at their jobs. Probably both could be operating at a higher level. Les, not so much. Don't rate him as a DoF at all. We are basically paying him 600 grand a year for his connections. As for the "Chairman", I think Amit would be excellent if he was actually fulfilling that role. I'm pretty sure Tony is still the one calling the shots and the whole Amit appointment was part PR stunt, part taking Tony out of the spotlight. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 7:56:15 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 31, 2020 9:19:05 GMT
BOS and Manning take a look at someone who clearly has shown the club and fanbase the respect it deserves.
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Post by 1qprdk on Aug 31, 2020 9:23:29 GMT
BOS and Manning take a look at someone who clearly has shown the club and fanbase the respect it deserves. Exactly. Sign a new deal with QPR. Try your best for a year, and get your big move with good wages at the new club thereafter. Eze does it. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 31, 2020 9:35:46 GMT
BOS and Manning take a look at someone who clearly has shown the club and fanbase the respect it deserves. Exactly. Sign a new deal with QPR. Try your best for a year, and get your big move with good wages at the new club thereafter. Eze does it. Unfortunately we are dealing with someone who turned his nose up at CL football after initially agreeing to go. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 31, 2020 9:36:56 GMT
Exactly. Sign a new deal with QPR. Try your best for a year, and get your big move with good wages at the new club thereafter. Eze does it.Very good 😁 |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Nov 7, 2020 18:56:14 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 7, 2020 19:25:45 GMT
1 assist, 1 goal, and what a goal!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2021 16:56:41 GMT
Hearing scored goal of season contender today
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Post by acricketer on Jan 2, 2021 17:08:18 GMT
In case you missed it on the Luton match thread...
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jan 2, 2021 17:16:35 GMT
Maybe goal of the day but nowhere near goal of the season.
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 2, 2021 17:18:58 GMT
Brilliant goal reminded me of the one he scored for us against Stoke start of last season. Glides through players like they aren’t even there
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 2, 2021 17:39:17 GMT
Shodipo and Oteh scoring again too today.
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Post by acricketer on Jan 2, 2021 17:55:08 GMT
Maybe goal of the day but nowhere near goal of the season. Goal of the week?!! |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 2, 2021 18:11:46 GMT
Was great finish, just rolled it out of keeper's reach. Only has to cross the line. Class.
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