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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 30, 2022 11:45:39 GMT
His fitness is a BIG issue.
Can’t last more than 20 mins before burning out due to pace of the championship.
The club have him working with a fitness coach specifically for him as he’s just not getting up to speed.
Gutted. The kid is clearly good has raw potential, pace and power but is useless if he can’t hack the rigours of first team football.
100000% he’d be playing if this issue wasn’t there.
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Post by spongeparr on Dec 30, 2022 11:53:42 GMT
Strange that he's been around the 1st team all season and yet he still has no fitness.
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Post by Greg1882 on Dec 30, 2022 12:07:42 GMT
Strange that he's been around the 1st team all season and yet he still has no fitness. The whole squads fitness and availability is a massive problem. Jcs, Amos, Armstrong etc. Its ridiculous |
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 30, 2022 12:23:54 GMT
Strange that he's been around the 1st team all season and yet he still has no fitness. More the fact we were desperate for another option up front. The fitness issue has always been there & still is currently. |
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 30, 2022 13:02:54 GMT
His fitness is a BIG issue. Can’t last more than 20 mins before burning out due to pace of the championship. The club have him working with a fitness coach specifically for him as he’s just not getting up to speed. Gutted. The kid is clearly good has raw potential, pace and power but is useless if he can’t hack the rigours of first team football. 100000% he’d be playing if this issue wasn’t there. Yeah not sure about his touch. Or his composure. And then as you said, his fitness. People need to wake up to the fact that courtesy of the board, we have no strikers. End of. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Dec 30, 2022 13:05:51 GMT
His fitness is a BIG issue. Can’t last more than 20 mins before burning out due to pace of the championship. The club have him working with a fitness coach specifically for him as he’s just not getting up to speed. Gutted. The kid is clearly good has raw potential, pace and power but is useless if he can’t hack the rigours of first team football. 100000% he’d be playing if this issue wasn’t there. He seems v bulked which makes him powerful but also a lot of weight to lug around. He also runs after a lot of lost causes which is great in a way as gets the team and fans going but means he burns out quickly. From what you say Jimmy I understand why he isn’t starting but baffling to me why he isn’t used as an impact sub with 20 to go when we are so short of attacking threat. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 30, 2022 13:39:51 GMT
His fitness is a BIG issue. Can’t last more than 20 mins before burning out due to pace of the championship. The club have him working with a fitness coach specifically for him as he’s just not getting up to speed. Gutted. The kid is clearly good has raw potential, pace and power but is useless if he can’t hack the rigours of first team football. 100000% he’d be playing if this issue wasn’t there. He seems v bulked which makes him powerful but also a lot of weight to lug around. He also runs after a lot of lost causes which is great in a way as gets the team and fans going but means he burns out quickly. From what you say Jimmy I understand why he isn’t starting but baffling to me why he isn’t used as an impact sub with 20 to go when we are so short of attacking threat. Last line I’m with you 100% I think if he’d had a goal we might see more of him but I think they’re trying to get him right then use him properly rather than bit part and not really sorting his core issues. The fact the club have allowed us to operate with the dross we have uo top is absolutely shocking. |
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Post by Norfolk Ranger on Dec 30, 2022 14:38:14 GMT
He is not going to get championship match fit by just training,needs to be getting a run out in the team.Even if he is blowing out of his arse,Would still do a better job than that fraud of a so called striker we pick every game. Also get rid of the useless sports science and fitness coaches as they are clearly not doing their jobs,is criminal that we have so many unfit players
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 30, 2022 15:14:40 GMT
His fitness is a BIG issue. Can’t last more than 20 mins before burning out due to pace of the championship. The club have him working with a fitness coach specifically for him as he’s just not getting up to speed. Gutted. The kid is clearly good has raw potential, pace and power but is useless if he can’t hack the rigours of first team football. 100000% he’d be playing if this issue wasn’t there. Interesting insight mate. Probably carrying too much weight and needs to shed a bit. Not easily done when your naturally built and muscular like him. You'd also speculate he's still worth having on the bench as an impact sub if that's the only issue. Unless of course the suggestion is his fitness problems are attitude related and he's being asked to earn his place. If the latter is the case we need to send him on loan to continue his development somewhere he'll get selected regardless. |
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Post by acricketer on Dec 30, 2022 16:08:27 GMT
His fitness is a BIG issue. Can’t last more than 20 mins before burning out due to pace of the championship. The club have him working with a fitness coach specifically for him as he’s just not getting up to speed. Gutted. The kid is clearly good has raw potential, pace and power but is useless if he can’t hack the rigours of first team football. 100000% he’d be playing if this issue wasn’t there. Maybe if he laid off the whoppers? |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 30, 2022 16:53:21 GMT
His fitness is a BIG issue. Can’t last more than 20 mins before burning out due to pace of the championship. The club have him working with a fitness coach specifically for him as he’s just not getting up to speed. Gutted. The kid is clearly good has raw potential, pace and power but is useless if he can’t hack the rigours of first team football. 100000% he’d be playing if this issue wasn’t there. Maybe if he laid off the whoppers? yep I read and heard that too |
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 30, 2022 17:28:09 GMT
I think if he’d had a goal we might see more of him but I think they’re trying to get him right then use him properly rather than bit part and not really sorting his core issues. The fact the club have allowed us to operate with the dross we have uo top is absolutely shocking. If the main issue is fitness why is he not playing regularly in the B team to get his levels up? |
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 30, 2022 22:12:52 GMT
I think if he’d had a goal we might see more of him but I think they’re trying to get him right then use him properly rather than bit part and not really sorting his core issues. The fact the club have allowed us to operate with the dross we have uo top is absolutely shocking. If the main issue is fitness why is he not playing regularly in the B team to get his levels up? Pace of games I believe hence why he has a fitness coach putting him through a rigorous training regime. |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2022 7:50:47 GMT
For the excitement and hype around him I got be honest and say not massively impressed this far. Not done anything which makes you think wow he’s got something.
It’s his physique which stands out not his football ability this far.
Works very hard that’s not in question but you want bit more then running about.
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Post by Shania on Dec 31, 2022 9:43:26 GMT
Armstrong is a player who, when fully fit of course, should watch how Haaland uses his insane pace and power.
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 31, 2022 10:00:17 GMT
For the excitement and hype around him I got be honest and say not massively impressed this far. Not done anything which makes you think wow he’s got something. It’s his physique which stands out not his football ability this far. Works very hard that’s not in question but you want but more then running about. Agreed. I do think he’ll be a handful when he’s up to speed with his size and pace but when that will be god only knows. |
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Post by sparks on Dec 31, 2022 10:13:37 GMT
His shooting accuracy impresses me.
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Post by sparks on Dec 31, 2022 10:24:51 GMT
Armstrong has played over 200mins in total apps incl as sub for our team and has an 80% passing accuracy in comparison to Donkey at 53%
That’s enough for me to get hyped about.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2022 10:29:40 GMT
Armstrong has played over 200mins in total apps incl as sub for our team and has an 80% passing accuracy in comparison to Donkey at 53% That’s enough for me to get hyped about. great play him in midfield instead of Stefan |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 16, 2023 0:14:33 GMT
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Post by sparks on Jan 16, 2023 9:01:05 GMT
Critchley has far more experience to make that call than the DOF, wish he stop trying to be so nice.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 16, 2023 9:15:32 GMT
If he isn't going to get minutes, then loan him out. We'll end up wasting a year of development. But only loan to League 1. Not non league like most seem to go.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 16, 2023 9:53:55 GMT
Critchley has far more experience to make that call than the DOF, wish he stop trying to be so nice. I liked what he said about young players being involved around the first team. Rooney and Owen wouldn’t have got a look in here, good job for Sterling he moved on. If Armstrong isn’t pushing hard enough at 19 to make it a difficult call for the coach/manager you have to ask if he’s really good enough, loan or no loan. Watford played a 17 year old at the weekend. Brighton have got an 18 year old playing in the Prem. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 16, 2023 10:05:09 GMT
If we trust the staff, they see him in training, blah blah, then it would suggest (sadly) that Armstrong is another Oteh or Shodipo not the next £20m transfer fee. We over rate our players in the name of support for our team - maybe we get too excited about youngsters too.
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Post by sparks on Jan 16, 2023 11:00:40 GMT
Critchley has far more experience to make that call than the DOF, wish he stop trying to be so nice. I liked what he said about young players being involved around the first team. Rooney and Owen wouldn’t have got a look in here, good job for Sterling he moved on. If Armstrong isn’t pushing hard enough at 19 to make it a difficult call for the coach/manager you have to ask if he’s really good enough, loan or no loan. Watford played a 17 year old at the weekend. Brighton have got an 18 year old playing in the Prem. I think he’s got enough talent, his ball control needs work but has some good attributes imo. Cant understand if I saw and wrote in this thread that Armstrong ran out of gas after 45mins for the B team last season why didn’t any of the coaching staff spot that as weakness earlier. Critchley looks to me to want to justify keeping Armstrong here with limited game time as a fall back if injuries kick in. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 16, 2023 11:13:57 GMT
I liked what he said about young players being involved around the first team. Rooney and Owen wouldn’t have got a look in here, good job for Sterling he moved on. If Armstrong isn’t pushing hard enough at 19 to make it a difficult call for the coach/manager you have to ask if he’s really good enough, loan or no loan. Watford played a 17 year old at the weekend. Brighton have got an 18 year old playing in the Prem. I think he’s got enough talent, his ball control needs work but has some good attributes imo. Cant understand if I saw and wrote in this thread that Armstrong ran out of gas after 45mins for the B team last season why didn’t any of the coaching staff spot that as weakness earlier. Critchley looks to me to want to justify keeping Armstrong here with limited game time as a fall back if injuries kick in. If we can’t have even one ‘promising’ youngster in and around the first team squad for the manager to work with himself there is something wrong. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 16, 2023 16:53:05 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 16, 2023 17:40:55 GMT
Disappointing. Let’s hope he doesn’t end up on someone else’s subs bench.
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Post by Shania on Jan 16, 2023 18:54:46 GMT
I trust the gaffer on this one.
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 16, 2023 19:36:58 GMT
With the benefit of hindsight, he probably should have gone on loan at the start of the season.
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