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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 19, 2022 11:05:23 GMT
”we’ve only got three CBs” sorry Conor, looks like you’re out mate. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 19, 2022 12:09:14 GMT
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Post by Bill on Jan 26, 2022 17:52:02 GMT
When he going to get a chance
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 27, 2022 9:57:19 GMT
When he going to get a chance I doubt he will. I imagine we are looking to loan him out to a team in league 1 or 2. If he plays for us, then we can't loan him out. |
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Post by Corbray on Jan 27, 2022 10:40:02 GMT
When he going to get a chance I doubt he will. I imagine we are looking to loan him out to a team in league 1 or 2. If he plays for us, then we can't loan him out. does that rule apply to NL clubs? |
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 27, 2022 11:54:40 GMT
I doubt he will. I imagine we are looking to loan him out to a team in league 1 or 2. If he plays for us, then we can't loan him out. does that rule apply to NL clubs? I believe so, but I couldn't say for 100% certainty. I would imagine that it does, as they are entered into the FA cup etc so presume it's a FA credited club, rather than an EFL/Premier League thing. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 7, 2022 10:02:53 GMT
Warburton is quoted as saying we have to give youngsters a pathway but to get to the first team Armstrong has to be better than Austin, Dykes, Gray, Willock(?) and Kelman. (Kelman!) Armstrong is clearly physically no kid. Are we that set in our ways that we can’t forget a pathway and fast track talent? Or is he really not good enough to figure in that group? That would be a worry.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 7, 2022 10:04:21 GMT
It's time this kid got some bench time. I agree fully about nothing too soon but we had no striker on the bench Saturday. Perfect opportunity to give this hungry big lump 15 mins considering our front two were so poor.
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Post by Corbray on Feb 7, 2022 10:15:19 GMT
we've produced and aided the development of some good players over the past few years and if you look at it they've all followed a similar route into the first team.
we hear rumblings of them, they make an appearence or two and then head out on loan before gradually coming into the side.
lumley, manning, bos (without the loan), furlong, eze and chair have all had similar paths before making it with us.
i'm inclined to trust the process the club takes. i'm sure chris ramsay has a hand in it too and he's arguebly one of the best in england when it comes to youth players.
sinclair is still only 18 remember so he has time on his side and there's no point rushing it. i'm sure he has bags of natural talent but is probably still very raw.
if he was tearing it up every training session then i have no doubt he'd be our starting striker but odds are he is lacking the experience of seasoned pro's and if our first 11 are able to 'deal' with him on the training pitch then other teams will too.
if he was chucked in at the deep end and was awful that could ruin his confidence lol. we all remember being 18 and how shit it felt to get a bollocking off your boss.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 7, 2022 10:24:32 GMT
we've produced and aided the development of some good players over the past few years and if you look at it they've all followed a similar route into the first team. we hear rumblings of them, they make an appearence or two and then head out on loan before gradually coming into the side. lumley, manning, bos (without the loan), furlong, eze and chair have all had similar paths before making it with us. i'm inclined to trust the process the club takes. i'm sure chris ramsay has a hand in it too and he's arguebly one of the best in england when it comes to youth players. sinclair is still only 18 remember so he has time on his side and there's no point rushing it. i'm sure he has bags of natural talent but is probably still very raw. if he was tearing it up every training session then i have no doubt he'd be our starting striker but odds are he is lacking the experience of seasoned pro's and if our first 11 are able to 'deal' with him on the training pitch then other teams will too. if he was chucked in at the deep end and was awful that could ruin his confidence lol. we all remember being 18 and how shit it felt to get a bollocking off your boss. Good points but surely 15 mins at lowly relegation threatened P'Boro in a cup game wouldn't have been that much of a issue? Considering we are so low on numbers and goals up front it was for me a great opportunity to test someone. |
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Post by Corbray on Feb 7, 2022 11:15:06 GMT
we've produced and aided the development of some good players over the past few years and if you look at it they've all followed a similar route into the first team. we hear rumblings of them, they make an appearence or two and then head out on loan before gradually coming into the side. lumley, manning, bos (without the loan), furlong, eze and chair have all had similar paths before making it with us. i'm inclined to trust the process the club takes. i'm sure chris ramsay has a hand in it too and he's arguebly one of the best in england when it comes to youth players. sinclair is still only 18 remember so he has time on his side and there's no point rushing it. i'm sure he has bags of natural talent but is probably still very raw. if he was tearing it up every training session then i have no doubt he'd be our starting striker but odds are he is lacking the experience of seasoned pro's and if our first 11 are able to 'deal' with him on the training pitch then other teams will too. if he was chucked in at the deep end and was awful that could ruin his confidence lol. we all remember being 18 and how shit it felt to get a bollocking off your boss. Good points but surely 15 mins at lowly relegation threatened P'Boro in a cup game wouldn't have been that much of a issue? Considering we are so low on numbers and goals up front it was for me a great opportunity to test someone. i agree with that and i can remember eze making his debut against blackburn in the cup a few years ago. cup games are for sure the perfect place to blood youngsters as even if we lose due to them fucking up the manager can always say "its only a cup game, we were never gunna win the whole thing so don't beat yourself up too much" whereas 3pts could cost us an entire season if we lose at the wrong time. i like what little i've seen of armstrong though, he's got pace and can hold up the ball well. i'd be gobsmacked if he didn't make it with us. its a shame esox doesn't post on here anymore as he regularly watched the u23 games. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 7, 2022 12:13:06 GMT
Esox rated 3 or 4 a couple of years back but we’ve never seen them. A couple of subs for a few mins in first round of carabao at most. I’d love to see them around the first team occasionally. Are they any good?
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Post by awin on Feb 7, 2022 12:13:46 GMT
I had heard a rumour he was injured last weekend.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 7, 2022 12:17:07 GMT
I get the arguments about being careful with young players but there should be room for ‘good enough, old enough’ too. No room for talent to blossom early in a rigid process.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 7, 2022 12:40:58 GMT
I’d give him a half, I mean he can’t be worse than mr talk sport for 45 mins
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Post by spongeparr on Feb 7, 2022 14:20:56 GMT
we've produced and aided the development of some good players over the past few years and if you look at it they've all followed a similar route into the first team. we hear rumblings of them, they make an appearence or two and then head out on loan before gradually coming into the side. lumley, manning, bos (without the loan), furlong, eze and chair have all had similar paths before making it with us. i'm inclined to trust the process the club takes. i'm sure chris ramsay has a hand in it too and he's arguebly one of the best in england when it comes to youth players. sinclair is still only 18 remember so he has time on his side and there's no point rushing it. i'm sure he has bags of natural talent but is probably still very raw. if he was tearing it up every training session then i have no doubt he'd be our starting striker but odds are he is lacking the experience of seasoned pro's and if our first 11 are able to 'deal' with him on the training pitch then other teams will too. if he was chucked in at the deep end and was awful that could ruin his confidence lol. we all remember being 18 and how shit it felt to get a bollocking off your boss. Good points but surely 15 mins at lowly relegation threatened P'Boro in a cup game wouldn't have been that much of a issue? Considering we are so low on numbers and goals up front it was for me a great opportunity to test someone. It would be good for Warbs to say what the plan is. If we are looking to loan him out but to a league club this time, then that will be why he didn't play (can't play for a 3rd team this season if he plays for us). If we aren't looking to be sending him out, he should have played (if fit). |
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 7, 2022 18:22:46 GMT
There is a genuine chance that all the fuss about this kid is being drummed up by his agent. The Manager shot down all the papertalk of big clubs having a look at him as his agent playing silly buggers.
I mean take away a few newspaper articles linking him to bigger clubs, have we got any evidence he's ready for the Championship?
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Post by Shania on Feb 7, 2022 18:31:43 GMT
There is a genuine chance that all the fuss about this kid is being drummed up by his agent. The Manager shot down all the papertalk of big clubs having a look at him as his agent playing silly buggers. I mean take away a few newspaper articles linking him to bigger clubs, have we got any evidence he's ready for the Championship? Yes I believe so, he has been on the bench a few times now and according to Warburton we have a squad good enough to fight for a play-off spot? |
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 8, 2022 9:59:48 GMT
Have you seen him play Shania? Has anyone on here seen anything more than the odd clip of him in fact? I know I haven't seen enough of him to know if he's good enough to play in our 1st team.
All I'm saying is we are having our opinions on this lad influenced by newspaper articles that were likely way off the mark.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 8, 2022 10:17:07 GMT
Have you seen him play Shania? Has anyone on here seen anything more than the odd clip of him in fact? I know I haven't seen enough of him to know if he's good enough to play in our 1st team. All I'm saying is we are having our opinions on this lad influenced by newspaper articles that were likely way off the mark. Kelman you tube video MK2 He looks a brute and physically able to compete but he might be mentally fragile. If he was ready I’m sure he would be playing a part as why would you not involve him I trust the club on this one. Paul Smyth went and there was uproar but did we get his exit right or wrong? Based on what he’s done club we’re absolutely spot on although fans demanded he was ready to play and should have |
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Post by Hitman34 on Feb 8, 2022 12:24:42 GMT
I’d give him a half, I mean he can’t be worse than mr talk sport for 45 mins Mr talk sport lol |
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Post by sparks on Feb 8, 2022 12:47:45 GMT
Have you seen him play Shania? Has anyone on here seen anything more than the odd clip of him in fact? I know I haven't seen enough of him to know if he's good enough to play in our 1st team. All I'm saying is we are having our opinions on this lad influenced by newspaper articles that were likely way off the mark. I saw Armstrong play 90mins on Recast for the U23 a couple of months ago,he was running the channels well and had a shoot on sight attitude whenever the chance arose. I thought he looked very promising in the first 45 but faded badly early in the second half as the opponents took charge of the game and went on to win handsomely |
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Post by Bill on Feb 9, 2022 10:16:24 GMT
Give him a seat on the bench please,especially if Gray is not back.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 9, 2022 12:59:48 GMT
Let’s hope he’s not another Oteh. Mind you, Holloway didn’t do him nor Shodipo any favours.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 9, 2022 13:02:11 GMT
Let’s hope he’s not another Oteh. Mind you, Holloway didn’t do him nor Shodipo any favours. Oteh wasn't good enough Al. Doesn't matter how Holloways bonkers team selections affected him, he simply wasn't good enough for Championship football! |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 9, 2022 13:22:36 GMT
Let’s hope he’s not another Oteh. Mind you, Holloway didn’t do him nor Shodipo any favours. Oteh wasn't good enough Al. Doesn't matter how Holloways bonkers team selections affected him, he simply wasn't good enough for Championship football! Hasnt got a club at all now but he was thought of in the same way as Armstrong is now. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Feb 9, 2022 16:12:05 GMT
Let’s hope he’s not another Oteh. Mind you, Holloway didn’t do him nor Shodipo any favours. Oteh wasn't good enough Al. Doesn't matter how Holloways bonkers team selections affected him, he simply wasn't good enough for Championship football! Must be the mentality that gets a player over the final hurdle. Physically and in terms of raw talent, these players should all be able to make it. The final bit comes down to their mentality. Big job for the academy to help them find the right mindset, IMO |
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Post by sparks on Feb 9, 2022 16:20:45 GMT
Oteh was recently signed on a free by Crawley Town in league 2..got their opener in a 3-1 win yesterday,would agree he looked poor in his time here.
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Post by Shania on Feb 9, 2022 18:16:11 GMT
Have you seen him play Shania? Has anyone on here seen anything more than the odd clip of him in fact? I know I haven't seen enough of him to know if he's good enough to play in our 1st team. All I'm saying is we are having our opinions on this lad influenced by newspaper articles that were likely way off the mark. Tarbie, no I`ve not seen him play. Only seen a few posters on other QPR forums saying he is quite good that is all, but like you imply; who knows how good he really is...No doubt.. Physically he looks like he could handle some minutes here and there in this league, but Warburton knows best. |
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Post by Corbray on Feb 9, 2022 20:46:59 GMT
oteh had lots of chances with us but never took it. there was a period when he was our only striker fit and we ended up playing a midfielder up top instead lol
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