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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 26, 2022 21:27:53 GMT
That is the point we were in a good position to have a go at an unlikely top 2 finish and we have took lost to Peterborough, Barnsley and Millwall who at the time were not in good form and worse still never scored a goal. Austin is overweight and unfit to play Gray seems to be bit part and Dykes well he is just Dykes. A striker was a must and these chances to get promotion do not come around too often and the change in the tean and lack of a consistent forward will hurt us. Totally agree re Austin. He should be embarrassed about the condition he’s in at the ripe old age of 32 Austin had to isolate because his wife has covid.
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Post by acricketer on Feb 26, 2022 21:39:28 GMT
Totally agree re Austin. He should be embarrassed about the condition he’s in at the ripe old age of 32 Austin had to isolate because his wife has covid. He's been isolating all season.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 28, 2022 23:16:48 GMT
WBA falling apart. Not sure Steve Bruce will last very long. We falling apart.
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 1, 2022 13:19:05 GMT
WBA falling apart. Not sure Steve Bruce will last very long. We falling apart. Naaaa.... We've been punching above our weight and doing unbelievably well. Having a bit of a hiccup, or perhaps a reality check. Still in with a decent shout of the play-offs - but well short of Premier League quality.
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Post by Bill on Mar 3, 2022 10:55:45 GMT
Dead certs and we fucked it up !!
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 3, 2022 18:01:30 GMT
Still in with a decent shout of the play-offs - but well short of Premier League quality. Think we're short of a bit more than that, we've been worked out and as usual there's been no real plan B. Having said that this is a low quality year and if MW has one of his few moments of clarity we're still in with a shout.
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 3, 2022 18:52:08 GMT
Dead certs and we fucked it up !! Not how I see it mate. Played well and punched above our weight for big parts of this season. Lots of other sides have improved and we haven't unfortunately. Honestly, don't think we've done too bad at all given the resources we are working with. And it ain't done yet, even if my gut feel is we are probably gonna end up 7th or 8th at best.
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Mar 3, 2022 19:02:06 GMT
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Post by Rangers77 on Mar 3, 2022 19:02:06 GMT
This. Next three games will tell.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Mar 3, 2022 20:11:21 GMT
Dead certs and we fucked it up !! Not how I see it mate. Played well and punched above our weight for big parts of this season. Lots of other sides have improved and we haven't unfortunately. Honestly, don't think we've done too bad at all given the resources we are working with. And it ain't done yet, even if my gut feel is we are probably gonna end up 7th or 8th at best. That’s the crux of it. Some fans get carried away and convince themselves we’re nailed on promotion contenders. When it doesn’t happen they blame the players, owners etc instead of acknowledging their expectations were the problem.
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Mar 3, 2022 21:20:48 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 3, 2022 21:20:48 GMT
But there’s nothing wrong with increasing expectation when you see what is being achieved. I wouldn’t have given us a prayer of being top six when the season started but I will be disappointed with seventh having seen us in touching distance of second. Being satisfied with falling away because it’s better than we thought we’d do is the difference between being winners and also-rans.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Mar 3, 2022 22:02:54 GMT
But there’s nothing wrong with increasing expectation when you see what is being achieved. I wouldn’t have given us a prayer of being top six when the season started but I will be disappointed with seventh having seen us in touching distance of second. Being satisfied with falling away because it’s better than we thought we’d do is the difference between being winners and also-rans. Thing is Alan, we might have been within touching distance of second but that was after Bournemouth had a blip and we’d been on a fantastic run, so the gap understandably closed. But, Bournemouth got back to their old self and our run petered out. That’s the difference between serious promotion contenders and the almost rans. Our players put in some proper shifts but for a player to play beyond their usual capabilities week in week out, it takes its toll, mentally and physically. Over the course of a season quality usually shines through and most of our players are not much more than average. None of our fans will be happy we’ve fallen away a bit, but plenty would have expected it.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 3, 2022 22:28:01 GMT
Fair points but we should be able to handle Peterborough and Barnsley and points on the board put pressure on teams with games in hand, then anything can happen. I can’t see the division being so poor again next season and we will surely lose a couple of players. We could well rally again but at the moment it is starting to feel like a lost opportunity even though few of us thought we’d be up there.
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Mar 3, 2022 22:36:31 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 3, 2022 22:36:31 GMT
This a fair comment Alan. We've chucked points away by not showing up to the supposed easier games. We've always had that in our locker though, and the Championship is such a hard league where the games come thick and fast, and weird results do happen.
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Post by Bill on Mar 3, 2022 23:37:27 GMT
Look at the table end of Jan and table end of Feb. Tells its own story. Barnsley 0 pts Millwall 0 pts Hull 1 pt Blackburn 0 pts.
1 point out of 12,dont need a striker,incredible team selections,strange subs,and changes a winning team to accomodate Chair.
No excuses we have fucked it up and if you cant face the facts above fine but thete it is black and white.
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Post by Bill on Mar 3, 2022 23:41:21 GMT
Not how I see it mate. Played well and punched above our weight for big parts of this season. Lots of other sides have improved and we haven't unfortunately. Honestly, don't think we've done too bad at all given the resources we are working with. And it ain't done yet, even if my gut feel is we are probably gonna end up 7th or 8th at best. That’s the crux of it. Some fans get carried away and convince themselves we’re nailed on promotion contenders. When it doesn’t happen they blame the players, owners etc instead of acknowledging their expectations were the problem. What is wrong with expectations? Some just use any excuse to explain poor decision making,poor tactics poor team selection poor subs and changing a winning team for a show pony.
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Post by acricketer on Mar 4, 2022 1:01:46 GMT
Chair up everyone!
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 4, 2022 7:51:26 GMT
Look at the table end of Jan and table end of Feb. Tells its own story. Barnsley 0 pts Millwall 0 pts Hull 1 pt Blackburn 0 pts. 1 point out of 12,dont need a striker,incredible team selections,strange subs,and changes a winning team to accomodate Chair. No excuses we have fucked it up and if you cant face the facts above fine but thete it is black and white. Add the dismal performance at Posh earlier and that’s one from fifteen against weaker teams and Rovers who couldn’t buy a goal for weeks. You can’t win every game but ten points would have put us right up there. It was on. Doing better than expected should not be an excuse for letting it slide.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 4, 2022 8:02:20 GMT
😁not over yet, plenty of points to play for, but we have made it very difficult now.
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 4, 2022 8:04:03 GMT
Still think we'll stay in the PO spots.
The last month has been a MASSIVE wake up call for all.
If the management & players don't or can't react to the last few results we don't deserve to go up.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 4, 2022 8:11:20 GMT
Trouble is now we’ve got to play the teams around us who want the same as we do. All six pointers. Lots of pressure.
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 4, 2022 8:49:47 GMT
Trouble is now we’ve got to play the teams around us who want the same as we do. All six pointers. Lots of pressure. Plenty of incentive too
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 4, 2022 10:32:51 GMT
Well said Bill. I totally agree, for what that's worth :-) So typical of QPR to screw things up against the weaker teams and makes things that much tougher now. Not sure what people are whining about though as we're due for a bumper March.
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Post by Bill on Mar 4, 2022 11:07:06 GMT
Still think we'll stay in the PO spots. The last month has been a MASSIVE wake up call for all. If the management & players don't or can't react to the last few results we don't deserve to go up. I hope so but its going to be very much harder given our shocking results in Feb
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Post by Bill on Mar 4, 2022 11:09:14 GMT
Trouble is now we’ve got to play the teams around us who want the same as we do. All six pointers. Lots of pressure. Pressure something we dont seem to handle very well. The high press and MW doesnt seem to have any answers.
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 4, 2022 16:53:58 GMT
Trouble is now we’ve got to play the teams around us who want the same as we do. All six pointers. Lots of pressure. Pressure something we dont seem to handle very well. The high press and MW doesnt seem to have any answers. yeah the whole division sussed us a while back. What's infuriating is that MW had no answer to this at Brentford either. That level of incompetence / obstinacy is world class.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Mar 4, 2022 17:22:52 GMT
World class incompetence. How come we already have 3 points more than season 2016-17 and equal amount of points to season 2017-18 when everyone's favorite and great master Ian Holloway was managing us?
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 4, 2022 17:45:27 GMT
World class incompetence. How come we already have 3 points more than season 2016-17 and equal amount of points to season 2017-18 when everyone's favorite and great master Ian Holloway was managing us? You can’t make those comparisons really Timmy, different competition every year. What’s best then, if you get relegated one year with 43 points or survived the year before with 40? And he wasn’t everyone’s favourite😁
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 4, 2022 18:53:48 GMT
World class incompetence. How come we already have 3 points more than season 2016-17 and equal amount of points to season 2017-18 when everyone's favorite and great master Ian Holloway was managing us? Fact is we're loosing points because he seems unable to fix a very basic problem, one that has found him out before. For me, that's incompetent. Worst of all is that the press thing is a problem for us at BOTH ends of the park. Can't cope with it at the back and randomly half arsed at the top end. Better not to press at all and get organised than our version.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 4, 2022 19:14:55 GMT
What you on about Timmy? You started a 10 page magnum opus.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Mar 4, 2022 19:41:40 GMT
What you on about Timmy? You started a 10 page magnum opus. We won't make the playoffs. But surely Warbs has done something right? Our third or fourth best season ever in the Championship. No?
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