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Apr 19, 2022 16:11:33 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 19, 2022 16:11:33 GMT
Wheels come off like a hover craft
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 19, 2022 16:11:36 GMT
TBH tho I never actually expected to go up this year, my realistic expectation was make the play offs but miss out on promotion. If you look at teams like Brentford we are a good two years behind where they were at the point they got promoted. Although these last couple of months have been deeply underwhelming to us fans I hope at least we can finish above 9th - that way at least we can say we are making year on year progress which will make us a better sell to new players, add confidence to the team and hopefully take a small winning run into next season: so 17th, then 13th, then 9th, this season 7th? Not what we wanted, obvs, but not the worst recent record of a Championship club by any means.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 19, 2022 16:12:40 GMT
Wheels come off like a hover craft Or like a white Range Rover Sport parked anywhere near your part of Essex GT... |
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Apr 19, 2022 16:23:09 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 19, 2022 16:23:09 GMT
Everyone got a 4/4 or electric motors here. It’s like a Tesla showroom
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 19, 2022 16:23:11 GMT
ps Sky have us at 25s to make the play offs.
I'd say that was skinny, more like 66s.
Currently averaging at around 100/1 to actually get promoted.
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Apr 19, 2022 16:25:39 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 19, 2022 16:25:39 GMT
Never bet ever so I don’t get odds
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 19, 2022 16:26:08 GMT
ps Sky have us at 25s to make the play offs. I'd say that was skinny, more like 66s. Currently averaging at around 100/1 to actually get promoted. At one stage I was on for getting 2.4k on us making the play offs. Last time I looked think that bet was worth about as much as a pint of stout and a pack of pork scratchings. Wife not happy about my optimism for QPR ("you know they are crap" etc) |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 19, 2022 16:26:42 GMT
Everyone got a 4/4 or electric motors here. It’s like a Tesla showroom You must be in one of the county's posher caravan parks |
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Apr 19, 2022 16:42:49 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 19, 2022 16:42:49 GMT
It’s quite wealthy here
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 23, 2022 13:32:15 GMT
Despite Luton dropping points in today's early KO, I think the top 5 places are sorted. Realistically, these are the teams scrabbling around for the last play-off place...  As if we didn't know, really is a 'must win' against Stoke this afternoon. |
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Post by acricketer on Apr 23, 2022 15:48:17 GMT
Despite Luton dropping points in today's early KO, I think the top 5 places are sorted. Realistically, these are the teams scrabbling around for the last play-off place... As if we didn't know, really is a 'must win' against Stoke this afternoon. Wish someone had told the team. |
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 23, 2022 16:09:57 GMT
Despite Luton dropping points in today's early KO, I think the top 5 places are sorted. Realistically, these are the teams scrabbling around for the last play-off place... As if we didn't know, really is a 'must win' against Stoke this afternoon. Wish someone had told the team. Yup, I guess that’s us done  |
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Apr 25, 2022 22:28:20 GMT
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Post by James1979 on Apr 25, 2022 22:28:20 GMT
Despite Luton dropping points in today's early KO, I think the top 5 places are sorted. Realistically, these are the teams scrabbling around for the last play-off place... As if we didn't know, really is a 'must win' against Stoke this afternoon. Just a bit of “scrabbling around”‘would have been nice on Saturday. We just bent over. |
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Apr 25, 2022 22:57:29 GMT
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Post by acricketer on Apr 25, 2022 22:57:29 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 26, 2022 22:21:07 GMT
2nd spot was there for taking,and a shit transfer window and no bollox blew our chance.
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Apr 26, 2022 22:26:05 GMT
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Post by bushcelt1 on Apr 26, 2022 22:26:05 GMT
2nd spot was there for taking,and a shit transfer window and no bollox blew our chance. Its been quite a poor championship and as you say 2nd spot was anyones. Its amazing how we fell apart and never got a bit of quality in when we needed it in january |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 28, 2022 12:13:07 GMT
2nd spot was there for taking,and a shit transfer window and no bollox blew our chance. Its been quite a poor championship and as you say 2nd spot was anyones. Its amazing how we fell apart and never got a bit of quality in when we needed it in January I know this is the widely held view of fans but tbh I think we could have signed Mo Salah in Jan and am not sure we would have got 2nd spot - in the final analysis, we have fallen a long way short all over the pitch, not just up top. |
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Apr 28, 2022 12:48:43 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 28, 2022 12:48:43 GMT
Its been quite a poor championship and as you say 2nd spot was anyones. Its amazing how we fell apart and never got a bit of quality in when we needed it in January I know this is the widely held view of fans but tbh I think we could have signed Mo Salah in Jan and am not sure we would have got 2nd spot - in the final analysis, we have fallen a long way short all over the pitch, not just up top. Fair point, and we have, but by January we were as good as anyone apart from Mitrovic FC. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 28, 2022 13:13:48 GMT
I certainly wouldn't "make the most of it" - I'm a QPR fan and will back whoever we appoint. I would hope the board and DoF have - from a low base - improved their recruitment skills. If so I will be absolutely delighted to eat humble pie. But their record is - and I'm trying to be generous here - mixed. As for Warbs, I hope fans will also be generous in their send off and remember his whole tenure, not just the last couple of months. Its a bit chicken and egg who is responsible for our tail off as accept the manager must take ultimate responsibility but a combination of injuries and some players just not performing at all (it was Fernandez, for eg, who insisted on signing Austin to the delight of virtually all our fans). We have the 7th cheapest squad in the Championship and so when we were in the play off places we were massively over-achieving. Totally accept we have under-achieved the last couple of months, even relative to that modest budget but lets not pretend we are on anything like a level playing field with the likes of Fulham, Bournemouth, West Brom and even Huddersfield and Foreset. Stains, I wasn’t suggesting posters on here who, in the main, debate points very well. As for over achieving, isn’t that the idea of sport? We had the points on the board because we won those points. Getting a nose bleed at altitude isn’t going to get you anywhere. Such a novel idea innit. And QPR have always punched above their weight. Nothing new there. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 28, 2022 15:02:29 GMT
Stains, I wasn’t suggesting posters on here who, in the main, debate points very well. As for over achieving, isn’t that the idea of sport? We had the points on the board because we won those points. Getting a nose bleed at altitude isn’t going to get you anywhere. Such a novel idea innit. And QPR have always punched above their weight. Nothing new there. No worries mate, appreciated. As for the punching above our weight comment, yes we did win those games but virtually all of them we won by very, very small margins. I think in retrospect we were probably on the "luckiest" run I've witnessed in all my years supporting QPR. It felt very different from the Adel season when we were blowing teams aside or even the Redknapp season when with a vastly more expensive squad we only just achieved what was expected. That's why I think Warbs deserves huge credit that first part of the season for getting so many points out of a team that didn't really have much right to compete at the top of the table. So even a 5% drop in intensity/ key players being unavailable/ form etc was always likely to have a dramatic effect. At the risk of repeating myself, I think we have to be patient for another two or three years, develop far more players than just Eze to sell on (Brentford sold about a dozen for mega bucks before they were promoted). Sure, underdogs can overachieve in sport but our budget is SO much lower than the top teams in this division us going up would be the equivalent of say Palace qualifying for Europe - it might be possible with careful, season on season improvement, but as a fan of that club it would be a bit unreasonable to expect the manager to deliver it based on resources. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 28, 2022 15:11:39 GMT
Rod, what's our budget like compared to millwall, luton and blackburn who are all above us?
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Apr 28, 2022 15:15:17 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 28, 2022 15:15:17 GMT
More to life than money
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 28, 2022 15:21:05 GMT
I saw a table on it - wish I could find it now - that had us 7th lowest (in terms of what the squad cost to buy). We were below Barnsley even. From memory think Millwall were about the same. Blackburn a bit more. Can't remember about Luton. It went something like Fulham 120m, Bournemouth 90m, WBA 70m then there was a big drop. But Forest, Huddersfield etc were easily double us.
And this does matter btw - most years in most division if you show the league table and next to it a table saying budget spent on squad, the tables look in remarkably similar order. That's why for me a lot of focus on managers is white noise really, he gets talked about because he is the personality, but more often than not isn't the main reason a club succeeds or fails.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 28, 2022 15:28:54 GMT
Rod, what's our budget like compared to millwall, luton and blackburn who are all above us? Indeed... There are no excuses for the horrible dog's breakfast of the last few months. We got found out and the gaffer had no clue as to how to adapt, and his DoF had no clue as to how to spend any available money. And of course the board shrank away in terror in January, we don't need to go over the financial details again. It's also worth pointing out that some iffy squads have got out of this division in an upward direction simply by virtue of being properly organised, fit, and unwilling to down tools. Wilder's Sheff Utd weren't exactly rammed full of expensive talent but they were properly sorted. |
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