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Post by Bill on Feb 20, 2022 0:08:46 GMT
So we move on.
What you think Timmy?
Or should i rephrase that
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Post by acricketer on Feb 20, 2022 0:17:26 GMT
Loss or a draw based on how we are playing against opposition who are lower than us in the league.
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Post by Shania on Feb 20, 2022 8:57:50 GMT
First win.
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 20, 2022 10:05:06 GMT
Marshall Sanderson Dunne Barbet Adomah Ball Chair Johanson McCallum Thomas Willock
Moses if McCallum isn't available. I assume Wallace won't be. None of the three strikers can start.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Feb 20, 2022 10:27:10 GMT
We were lucky to get one away point. Won't be easy to get that or more this time either.
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Post by 72bus on Feb 20, 2022 10:30:02 GMT
Marshall Sanderson Dunne Barbet Adomah Ball Chair Johanson McCallum Thomas Willock Moses if McCallum isn't available. I assume Wallace won't be. None of the three strikers can start. didn't think it could get any worse when I read Johansen.... But it did George thomas
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 20, 2022 10:34:17 GMT
Mobility and activity up front compared to the static manikins we usually play. Can drop back in the hole to assist Chair. You might be surprised.
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Post by sparks on Feb 20, 2022 10:55:29 GMT
Dieng Moses Sanderson Dunne Barbet Amos Dozzell Chair Hendrick Willock Gray or Dykes
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Post by Bill on Feb 21, 2022 22:40:58 GMT
How do we think this will go.
Should he stick or twist bearing in mind we need to win this.
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Post by acricketer on Feb 21, 2022 23:28:39 GMT
Wednesday night woes.
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Post by Shania on Feb 22, 2022 10:12:43 GMT
Marshall Moses Sanderson Dunne MaCallum Amos Johansen Chair Thomas Willock Gray
Adomah, Dykes and CA, Willock, Ball, Field all close to being picked from the start.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 22, 2022 12:54:27 GMT
Marshall Moses Sanderson Dunne MaCallum Amos Johansen Chair Thomas Willock Gray Adomah, Dykes and CA, Willock, Ball, Field all close to being picked from the start. I like this team but Warbs seems committed to playing with three centre backs. Generally we need them as before we were letting in far too many goals but against these supposedly weaker sides we are struggling to break down the extra man in midfield would be useful. Just changing it up occasionally might give the opposition something to think about. At the moment think our formation is entirely predictable and the Peterboroughs, Barnsleys and Hulls just camp behind the ball and we don't have the bodies/ nouse/ speed to break them down - one goal in three against some of the weakest teams in the division tells its own story alas.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 22, 2022 14:02:46 GMT
Having three at the back is supposed to add two more players to MF when in possession, though. I don't think the problem has been our formation. Just think MW has been picking the wrong starting 11. And when things have gone wrong he's been too slow to adapt. The exact same criticisms were levelled at him in the first half of last season, before things turned round from January '21.
In the 70's and 80's 4-4-2 was far more fashionable. The fullbacks would make overlapping runs though, so they would still double as wingers, OR interchange that role with the two wide midfielders. Perhaps it's time for a return to that...
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Post by acricketer on Feb 22, 2022 14:21:52 GMT
Marshall Moses Sanderson Dunne MaCallum Amos Johansen Chair Thomas Willock Gray Adomah, Dykes and CA, Willock, Ball, Field all close to being picked from the start. I like this team but Warbs seems committed to playing with three centre backs. Trouble is with 2 centre backs the sideways and backward passing distance is greater.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 22, 2022 18:57:10 GMT
Having three at the back is supposed to add two more players to MF when in possession, though. I don't think the problem has been our formation. Just think MW has been picking the wrong starting 11. And when things have gone wrong he's been too slow to adapt. The exact same criticisms were levelled at him in the first half of last season, before things turned round from January '21. In the 70's and 80's 4-4-2 was far more fashionable. The fullbacks would make overlapping runs though, so they would still double as wingers, OR interchange that role with the two wide midfielders. Perhaps it's time for a return to that... But that's just it, the centre halves aren't breaking into midfield any more. Early in the season Dickie was charging forward and causing panic in opposition midfields/ defences - but none of the centre halves break forward now. So even against very mediocre attacks we have three big, immobile lumps sitting at the back, not contributing anything going forward. And with Field and Stef playing equally negatively (and virtually as deep) its no wonder we aren't scoring goals. For me this formation could work, but it needs to press forward more and it needs one central defender and at least one midfielder to break into forward positions as you describe - and actually hit some forward passes. I don't think the issue is particularly with the personnel - lots of fans cried out for Amos and he came in and was arguably even worse. Warbs dropped Johansen who had been badly off form. Last game we changed the goalkeeper, left wing back midfield and striker. He has actually made quite a few changes in terms of players but not a great deal has changed in terms of performance or result.
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Post by The General on Feb 22, 2022 19:17:47 GMT
Just need to motivate the players we have
Hard press should come back we are so lazy in the first half most of the time
Centre Midfield seems to be a massive problem atm for me
Strikers need service to get goals
Dykes is shit he needs dropping play gray and Austin at least they are goal scorers some times also give Dom Ball a chance cannot be any worse really
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Post by Shania on Feb 22, 2022 19:50:37 GMT
Stefan Johansen met the Norwegian R`s on a Teams platform last night and I have to say that the meeting was interesting and entertaining on the whole. He said that it was a very tough experience to play 3 matches a week, but that the squad on the whole relished the fact that this season could end with promotion. As far as I remember he actually stressed that playoff and promotion was still pretty much the aim.
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Post by The General on Feb 22, 2022 19:56:54 GMT
Why do we always play on Wednesdays when most others play on Tuesday it’s really anoying
We could be out of the top six tonight
I personally don’t like it it’s been going on all season
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Post by West Acton on Feb 22, 2022 20:08:50 GMT
Chelsea home tonight and we don’t play home same day as them as a rule
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Post by The General on Feb 22, 2022 20:17:25 GMT
Chelsea home tonight and we don’t play home same day as them as a rule The need to fuck off to Wednesday then We’re a much bigger club than they are west London I’d ours 😂😂
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Post by The General on Feb 22, 2022 20:18:16 GMT
Coventry winning
Boro losing good
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Post by acricketer on Feb 22, 2022 21:16:34 GMT
Not any more.
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Post by The General on Feb 22, 2022 21:36:15 GMT
Ha ha knew you would pop up
No both winning ffs
God we got a job on now
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Post by The General on Feb 22, 2022 21:36:58 GMT
Another Tuesday ruined
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Post by Shania on Feb 22, 2022 22:08:36 GMT
Having three at the back is supposed to add two more players to MF when in possession, though. I don't think the problem has been our formation. Just think MW has been picking the wrong starting 11. And when things have gone wrong he's been too slow to adapt. The exact same criticisms were levelled at him in the first half of last season, before things turned round from January '21. In the 70's and 80's 4-4-2 was far more fashionable. The fullbacks would make overlapping runs though, so they would still double as wingers, OR interchange that role with the two wide midfielders. Perhaps it's time for a return to that... But that's just it, the centre halves aren't breaking into midfield any more. Early in the season Dickie was charging forward and causing panic in opposition midfields/ defences - but none of the centre halves break forward now. So even against very mediocre attacks we have three big, immobile lumps sitting at the back, not contributing anything going forward. And with Field and Stef playing equally negatively (and virtually as deep) its no wonder we aren't scoring goals. For me this formation could work, but it needs to press forward more and it needs one central defender and at least one midfielder to break into forward positions as you describe - and actually hit some forward passes. I don't think the issue is particularly with the personnel - lots of fans cried out for Amos and he came in and was arguably even worse. Warbs dropped Johansen who had been badly off form. Last game we changed the goalkeeper, left wing back midfield and striker. He has actually made quite a few changes in terms of players but not a great deal has changed in terms of performance or result. But why aren`t they doing that anymore? I seem to remember that Dickie lost the ball on a few occations and we conceded as a result of it. That is one reason perhaps.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 22, 2022 22:52:53 GMT
Having three at the back is supposed to add two more players to MF when in possession, though. I don't think the problem has been our formation. Just think MW has been picking the wrong starting 11. And when things have gone wrong he's been too slow to adapt. The exact same criticisms were levelled at him in the first half of last season, before things turned round from January '21. In the 70's and 80's 4-4-2 was far more fashionable. The fullbacks would make overlapping runs though, so they would still double as wingers, OR interchange that role with the two wide midfielders. Perhaps it's time for a return to that... The middle four usually had a tough guy like Vieira, Keane even Souness earlier, who would protect the CBs when the fullbacks bombed on. We haven’t got one.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 22, 2022 23:58:16 GMT
But that's just it, the centre halves aren't breaking into midfield any more. Early in the season Dickie was charging forward and causing panic in opposition midfields/ defences - but none of the centre halves break forward now. So even against very mediocre attacks we have three big, immobile lumps sitting at the back, not contributing anything going forward. And with Field and Stef playing equally negatively (and virtually as deep) its no wonder we aren't scoring goals. For me this formation could work, but it needs to press forward more and it needs one central defender and at least one midfielder to break into forward positions as you describe - and actually hit some forward passes. I don't think the issue is particularly with the personnel - lots of fans cried out for Amos and he came in and was arguably even worse. Warbs dropped Johansen who had been badly off form. Last game we changed the goalkeeper, left wing back midfield and striker. He has actually made quite a few changes in terms of players but not a great deal has changed in terms of performance or result. But why aren`t they doing that anymore? I seem to remember that Dickie lost the ball on a few occations and we conceded as a result of it. That is one reason perhaps. Its a good question, and one I would love to ask Warbs. You might be right. Are they instructed to keep it tighter at the back or have they lost confidence, or is it a lack of movement ahead?
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Post by West Acton on Feb 23, 2022 7:37:35 GMT
Really don’t want Dickie bombing forward he’s awful at it. He’s cost us more goals doing it then he’s created
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Post by Shania on Feb 23, 2022 9:34:33 GMT
Really don’t want Dickie bombing forward he’s awful at it. He’s cost us more goals doing it then he’s created He`s not awful at it imo, but they eventually found out have we played and blocked him, and the rest is history: we conceded because nobody covered him...Dickie lost a bit confidence after those goals against I think.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 23, 2022 10:00:51 GMT
Really don’t want Dickie bombing forward he’s awful at it. He’s cost us more goals doing it then he’s created This. 100%. He’s far too slow to do it and gets caught in possession easily and too often.
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