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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2023 9:51:11 GMT
Dead pool took Wrexham, Ironman and Thor for Qpr
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 30, 2023 10:15:57 GMT
What's actually been saiid about protests?
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 30, 2023 10:19:45 GMT
I actually think we will be a good option to buy. Good location, good potential and could make a fortune with good decisions. A lot cheaper than buying a ready made Premier League club. What's actually been said about protesting? I am not on Twitter. I do find though, social media doesn't always back up the feelings in the ground. Completely agree. We are a rough diamond to the right person but that is the sticking point. It absolutely has to be the right person/persons. Great location/decent fan base/will have a new training facility. With the right ownership and despite the ffp we would do well. The whole club needs freshening up and restructuring from top to bottom. Any new owner and pretty much every owner of any football club accepts they aren’t really in it to make money. Losses in this day and age are pretty much guaranteed but if they can get the club up there is money to be made. We are a far more attractive proposition than most championship clubs based on location/exposure alone More than a good location. Closer to central London than any other professional club. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 30, 2023 10:39:41 GMT
Get a ground sorted, they'll make millions from that and LR. Alreday got a new training ground. West London location, only 1 promotion from big money. Decent size fan base and a decent history (compared to some) to attract decent players. Ground is the problem though - return on investment. We’re talking £80-£100m for yet another London venue when London is slowly dying as a destination. Nothing will happen at LR. Modern regs won’t allow it to become anything other than what it is. Look up comparable stadia over the past 25 years, what they cost and when. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2023 10:58:26 GMT
Said it b4 recent, we need rich Arabs, who want a club in London one of the great cities of world. Paris Manchester Newcastle London needed
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Post by Bill on Jan 30, 2023 11:04:29 GMT
Lived in London most my life.
Like it or not London is an expensive shithole now, that will continue to get worse for a number of reasons.
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Post by Corbray on Jan 30, 2023 11:05:37 GMT
Get a ground sorted, they'll make millions from that and LR. Alreday got a new training ground. West London location, only 1 promotion from big money. Decent size fan base and a decent history (compared to some) to attract decent players. Ground is the problem though - return on investment. We’re talking £80-£100m for yet another London venue when London is slowly dying as a destination. Nothing will happen at LR. Modern regs won’t allow it to become anything other than what it is. Look up comparable stadia over the past 25 years, what they cost and when. we could move out of shepherds bush into one of the surrounding boroughs like ealing or acton etc. transport links are still good enough for a football club. the sale and developmemt of LR would likely cover the costs for any new stadium too simply because freeholds in london are incredibly rare nowadays and are a $ sign to any prospective developer. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 30, 2023 11:06:10 GMT
Get a ground sorted, they'll make millions from that and LR. Alreday got a new training ground. West London location, only 1 promotion from big money. Decent size fan base and a decent history (compared to some) to attract decent players. Ground is the problem though - return on investment. We’re talking £80-£100m for yet another London venue when London is slowly dying as a destination. Nothing will happen at LR. Modern regs won’t allow it to become anything other than what it is. Look up comparable stadia over the past 25 years, what they cost and when. The ground as it is maybe a problem but if you want to build a new one it becomes less of an issue. Brentford found a site and put it up swiftly our clowns in charge pissed people off from day one and it has now become nothing more than a pipe dream. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 30, 2023 11:13:18 GMT
Ground is the problem though - return on investment. We’re talking £80-£100m for yet another London venue when London is slowly dying as a destination. Nothing will happen at LR. Modern regs won’t allow it to become anything other than what it is. Look up comparable stadia over the past 25 years, what they cost and when. we could move out of shepherds bush into one of the surrounding boroughs like ealing or acton etc. transport links are still good enough for a football club. the sale and developmemt of LR would likely cover the costs for any new stadium too simply because freeholds in london are incredibly rare nowadays and are a $ sign to any prospective developer. But where Corbs? We should have been in day one on HS2, that’s where the potential was. I know someone involved and all the sites have been ‘taken’ now with their potential fully determined. I don’t believe a word Hoos says about LC. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 30, 2023 11:18:33 GMT
Lived in London most my life. Like it or not London is an expensive shithole now, that will continue to get worse for a number of reasons. Great place to grow up but glad that was 50 years ago😂 Expensive and shit’ole, very sad. |
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Post by Bill on Jan 30, 2023 11:28:52 GMT
Lived in London most my life. Like it or not London is an expensive shithole now, that will continue to get worse for a number of reasons. Great place to grow up but glad that was 50 years ago😂 Expensive and shit’ole, very sad. Agree totally |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 30, 2023 11:54:59 GMT
Ground is the problem though - return on investment. We’re talking £80-£100m for yet another London venue when London is slowly dying as a destination. Nothing will happen at LR. Modern regs won’t allow it to become anything other than what it is. Look up comparable stadia over the past 25 years, what they cost and when. we could move out of shepherds bush into one of the surrounding boroughs like ealing or acton etc. transport links are still good enough for a football club. the sale and developmemt of LR would likely cover the costs for any new stadium too simply because freeholds in london are incredibly rare nowadays and are a $ sign to any prospective developer. Think that is very wide of the mark alas. The figure talked about to build a new stadium with cinema, hotel etc that the board say would be needed for it to potentially pay its way I think they have said is more like 400/500m. Loftus Rd might be quite central but lets face it on two sites its more or less surrounded by social housing. Its not Notting Hill or Holland Park. Selling the ground would only cover a fraction of the cost unless you move to the Isle of Skye or something |
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 30, 2023 11:57:00 GMT
Look how many people related to construction that have been brought it. There has to be a area that needs re development that can house a stadium plus more.
LCS could sitll be an option if the current QPR owners stopped pissing off the council. Pay fair game, have x amount at LR as affordable living so it keeps them sweet and then everything can move forward.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 30, 2023 12:00:50 GMT
we could move out of shepherds bush into one of the surrounding boroughs like ealing or acton etc. transport links are still good enough for a football club. the sale and developmemt of LR would likely cover the costs for any new stadium too simply because freeholds in london are incredibly rare nowadays and are a $ sign to any prospective developer. Think that is very wide of the mark alas. The figure talked about to build a new stadium with cinema, hotel etc that the board say would be needed for it to potentially pay its way I think they have said is more like 400/500m. Loftus Rd might be quite central but let’s face it on two sites it’s more or less surrounded by social housing. It’s not Notting Hill or Holland Park. Selling the ground would only cover a fraction of the cost unless you move to the Isle of Skye or something Totally agree. |
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 30, 2023 12:01:36 GMT
Look how many people related to construction that have been brought it. There has to be a area that needs re development that can house a stadium plus more. LCS could sitll be an option if the current QPR owners stopped pissing off the council. Pay fair game, have x amount at LR as affordable living so it keeps them sweet and then everything can move forward. Exactly how I see it. The availability of the land might not be the issue, it might well be the greedy incompetent cunts doing the negotiations |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 30, 2023 12:04:21 GMT
If we really wanted LC the club could put together an offer H and F couldn’t refuse. Leak it publicly, play dirty, put the pressure on if they are a problem. They’ll all want to be elected again.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 30, 2023 12:21:41 GMT
Location if we could move locally is great. But given there appears no where do locally then the pull of location disappears as if we go up A40 it’s not a great location anymore.
I dont think we’re an ugly option but you would look elsewhere before in our direction.
In pulling terms were one of the birds left on the dance floor just as the last song is playing. Guys who have not pulled thinking ok what now? Oh look at her not what I wanted to take home but it’s better then a wank.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2023 12:26:10 GMT
Everyday new stadium left, it get’s further out of reach due to rising costs of land labour and materials
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 30, 2023 12:35:06 GMT
Location if we could move locally is great. But given there appears no where do locally then the pull of location disappears as if we go up A40 it’s not a great location anymore. I dont think we’re an ugly option but you would look elsewhere before in our direction. In pulling terms were one of the birds left on the dance floor just as the last song is playing. Guys who have not pulled thinking ok what now? Oh look at her not what I wanted to take home but it’s better then a wank. Indeed. The point being made about the location would be for the owners to find buyers now whilst we're presently the closest club to central London. That indeed is our main USP (along with our history, fanbase and champs status). Moving further out would eliminate that major draw to prospective buyers and significantly devalue the club. This is all of course assuming the owners would even be contemplating such a thing. But the fact is there seems a growing wish for this amongst large sections of the fanbase after what will be 12 years of stewardship this August. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 30, 2023 12:37:09 GMT
Cronyism, cheaper land and building redevelopment contracts in exchange for community projects I THINK is what he’s referring to. Ah OK. I think that works in places like Swansea where the land is dirt cheap - the council if I am not mistaken gifted the club free land in return for various community projects etc - but that isn't going to happen in Hammersmith and Fulham where land values are through the roof. Its one of the issues that makes a mockery of FFP as its not remotely a level playing field for this reason. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 30, 2023 12:38:02 GMT
Think its pretty clear the club has abandoned all plans to move - Hoos confirmed as much a while back and said they were looking at improving Loftus Rd. Even that has gone quiet.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2023 12:42:19 GMT
Think its pretty clear the club has abandoned all plans to move - Hoos confirmed as much a while back and said they were looking at improving Loftus Rd. Even that has gone quiet. They put b n m led bulbs in loos |
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Post by Corbray on Jan 30, 2023 12:49:43 GMT
we could move out of shepherds bush into one of the surrounding boroughs like ealing or acton etc. transport links are still good enough for a football club. the sale and developmemt of LR would likely cover the costs for any new stadium too simply because freeholds in london are incredibly rare nowadays and are a $ sign to any prospective developer. Think that is very wide of the mark alas. The figure talked about to build a new stadium with cinema, hotel etc that the board say would be needed for it to potentially pay its way I think they have said is more like 400/500m. Loftus Rd might be quite central but lets face it on two sites its more or less surrounded by social housing. Its not Notting Hill or Holland Park. Selling the ground would only cover a fraction of the cost unless you move to the Isle of Skye or something amit is involved in construction already and even if his companies can't supply the materials at a good price i'm sure he knows somebody who can + given his experience you'd like to hope that he won't have his pants pulled down or be overly ambitious. plus even though LR is surrounded by council estates it'd still be a hugely desirable place to develop. most new builds are surrounded by council estates or rough areas too. i've only worked in london for 12 years but in that time places like brixton, tower hamlets and poplar have gone from rough run down areas to just rough upmarket areas lol. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 30, 2023 12:59:32 GMT
Not important but Chelsea not closer central than us?
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 30, 2023 13:05:55 GMT
About the same distance really, so yes 1=
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 30, 2023 14:43:34 GMT
This board got the fans to pay for the Stanley Bowles stand so why would they pay for a new stadium. This lot have no interest in the club, fans or football team and have Hoos there to spout the usual shite week after week season after season.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 30, 2023 14:51:12 GMT
This board got the fans to pay for the Stanley Bowles stand so why would they pay for a new stadium. This lot have no interest in the club, fans or football team and have Hoos there to spout the usual shite week after week season after season. Financial reality bites. The club is haemorrhaging money and the board is doing what it can to avoid us getting another FFP fine. I think Hoos is pretty straight talking, says it how it is. "Spouting the usual shite..." Well, how many ways are there of saying "We can't afford it"? Fuck me, who'd have that useless waste of space Beard back? |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 30, 2023 15:13:26 GMT
This board got the fans to pay for the Stanley Bowles stand so why would they pay for a new stadium. This lot have no interest in the club, fans or football team and have Hoos there to spout the usual shite week after week season after season. Financial reality bites. The club is haemorrhaging money and the board is doing what it can to avoid us getting another FFP fine. I think Hoos is pretty straight talking, says it how it is. "Spouting the usual shite..." Well, how many ways are there of saying "We can't afford it"? Fuck me, who'd have that useless waste of space Beard back? Let me tell you about Lee Hoos, For the Stanley Bowles benefit match Hoos along with the board blocked us playing Celtic and Brentford and we ended up with a 2nd rate Bournemouth team. The idea was to raise as much as we can for Stan's care he also made those who were involvex in arranging the game pay for the stewards and police so please do not tell me how good a job he is doing. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2023 15:21:13 GMT
Tbf Celtic kicked off most times we played them
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Post by Corbray on Jan 30, 2023 15:23:28 GMT
lets get alan and that "WHY DID YOU RELEASE MY SON!" dad back in for the next fans forum. we'll manipulate the dad into thinking his boy was released so les could buy himself a new BMW.
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