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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 17, 2023 9:17:23 GMT
Drastic short term fix required. We have a habit of these don't we, under the present regime? Where is the bigger vision, the direction, the leadership from the boardroom? Raised this with Hoos at the last meeting and he stared back at me blankly, for once lost for words. Whilst grateful for their monthly cheques to pay the bills, perhaps he actually agreed... Let's see what Ruben has to say tomorrow night. I’d rather short term fix than start all over again in Div 1. Not ideal but neither is our current position. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 17, 2023 10:14:53 GMT
That's not the case with Brentford and Brighton, is it? It came first and foremost from their owners. And look at their success stories. Clubs once of smaller and similar size to us. Owners brought in football CEO and DoF because they admit they don’t know much about football. They’re writing cheques and have asked that club becomes sustainable. For me it’s failures of DoF, CEO and manager that we have lack of vision I think you're making my point for me James. Firstly, if they admit they don't know much about football should they even be in the game in the first place? Secondly, for this reason they've asked that the DoF, CEO and manager to make the club sustainable, yet have consistently failed in their recruitment over these positions. Probably because, as we have established, they don't know much about football in the first place! So again, it all comes back to a lack of vision, leadership and direction in the boardroom. |
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Post by Bill on Sept 17, 2023 11:29:33 GMT
Owners brought in football CEO and DoF because they admit they don’t know much about football. They’re writing cheques and have asked that club becomes sustainable. For me it’s failures of DoF, CEO and manager that we have lack of vision I think you're making my point for me James. Firstly, if they admit they don't know much about football should they even be in the game in the first place? Secondly, for this reason they've asked that the DoF, CEO and manager to make the club sustainable, yet have consistently failed in their recruitment over these positions. Probably because, as we have established, they don't know much about football in the first place! So again, it all comes back to a lack of vision, leadership and direction in the boardroom. Totally agree Stanley. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 8, 2023 14:49:25 GMT
Couple of questions:
1. Do we think the board are deluded enough to think keeping Ainsworth on will ensure our championship survival?
2. Or is this their way of preparing the fanbase for life in League 1 next season under Ainsworth, which is a scenario they're actually accounting/preparing for?
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Post by James1979 on Oct 8, 2023 14:54:29 GMT
Couple of questions: 1. Do we think the board are deluded enough to think keeping Ainsworth on will ensure our championship survival? 2. Or is this their way of preparing the fanbase for life in League 1 next season under Ainsworth, which is a scenario they're actually accounting/preparing for? As I’ve said a few times, as a club, we are absolutely world class at lowering our expectations. Mid table in League 1 would be deemed a good result. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 8, 2023 15:04:20 GMT
Couple of questions: 1. Do we think the board are deluded enough to think keeping Ainsworth on will ensure our championship survival? 2. Or is this their way of preparing the fanbase for life in League 1 next season under Ainsworth, which is a scenario they're actually accounting/preparing for? I think number 2 is exactly what is happening. And in League 1, Ainsworth would do well for us I think. It's his level. Edit...by the way, if I'm right and that is actually the plan that is utter bullshit from them. To actually aim for a lower league shows complete lack of ambition and is grounds for turfing the fuckers out (provided there's someone out there to sell up to). |
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 8, 2023 15:21:13 GMT
Couple of questions: 1. Do we think the board are deluded enough to think keeping Ainsworth on will ensure our championship survival? 2. Or is this their way of preparing the fanbase for life in League 1 next season under Ainsworth, which is a scenario they're actually accounting/preparing for? I think number 2 is exactly what is happening. And in League 1, Ainsworth would do well for us I think. It's his level. Edit...by the way, if I'm right and that is actually the plan that is utter bullshit from them. To actually aim for a lower league shows complete lack of ambition and is grounds for turfing the fuckers out (provided there's someone out there to sell up to). Nothing would surprise me anymore at this football club. Would not want Ainsworth anywhere the dug out whatever division we are in. Seen enough of him and the crap he churns out every week to say that. |
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Post by hubble on Oct 8, 2023 17:31:25 GMT
Even if the League 1 is the (mad) plan, I'd still want rid of Ainsworth. League 1 with a decent manager and a competent rebuild, I could accept. League 1 with Ainsworth would be a nightmare of unbearable football. In fact it's already a nightmare - albeit a kind of tragi-comedic one. I don't think I can take any more Ainsworth sub-David Brent style bollocks or sub-par football.
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Post by Bill on Oct 9, 2023 8:19:04 GMT
So let’s assume it is a managed decline - what’s the point of doing it? Why would you spend 2m a month running something down (and to what end?) when you could just let it fail? I don’t get this club at the moment, from whichever way I look at it. Agree Alan not logical does not make sense but with the board we have they must have some sort of purpose and strategy if this is the case. I have had my suspicions about this for ages as most on here know. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 9, 2023 8:22:34 GMT
Plan is to get us non league, with tiny fan base so can sell off training ground , stadium and get us to share at gates or similar 😏
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Post by Bill on Oct 9, 2023 8:25:37 GMT
Plan is to get us non league, with tiny fan base so can sell off training ground , stadium and get us to share at gates or similar 😏 Im thinking worse than that. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 9, 2023 8:31:09 GMT
So let’s assume it is a managed decline - what’s the point of doing it? Why would you spend 2m a month running something down (and to what end?) when you could just let it fail? I don’t get this club at the moment, from whichever way I look at it. Agree Alan not logical does not make sense but with the board we have they must have some sort of purpose and strategy if this is the case. I have had my suspicions about this for ages as most on here know. All I would say is I’m not the least bit convinced by the training ground being a pointer to the ambition of the club. It’s a cleared site with a cheap building easily converted in future. A bet hedged. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2023 8:35:50 GMT
Agree Alan not logical does not make sense but with the board we have they must have some sort of purpose and strategy if this is the case. I have had my suspicions about this for ages as most on here know. All I would say is I’m not the least bit convinced by the training ground being a pointer to the ambition of the club. It’s a cleared site with a cheap building easily converted in future. A bet hedged. The training ground fans and investors paid for... |
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Post by Bill on Oct 9, 2023 8:37:31 GMT
Sadly we know this board lie,bullshit and on the surface seem to care(last supporters meeting)would imply that.
But do they really,i am not convinced in any way.
If GA is not sacked the whole of that meeting is just bullshit.
"Leave us in a better place"Reuben.
"We will come back stronger" Amit.
Really do you think the fans are thick?
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Post by Bill on Oct 9, 2023 8:51:35 GMT
We really need a fans representative on the board for transparency.
Pigs might fly.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 9, 2023 9:02:55 GMT
So let’s assume it is a managed decline - what’s the point of doing it? Why would you spend 2m a month running something down (and to what end?) when you could just let it fail? I don’t get this club at the moment, from whichever way I look at it. It would save them the 2m a month. More lax FFP rules apply in League 1. Plus the club's running costs would be a lot lower. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2023 9:07:06 GMT
So let’s assume it is a managed decline - what’s the point of doing it? Why would you spend 2m a month running something down (and to what end?) when you could just let it fail? I don’t get this club at the moment, from whichever way I look at it. It would save them the 2m a month. More lax FFP rules apply in League 1. Plus the club's running costs would be a lot lower. Would anyone be surprised if they put us into administration as soon as its conformed that we're relegated? |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 9, 2023 9:13:21 GMT
We really need a fans representative on the board for transparency. Pigs might fly. Bill, interestingly enough, they are actually considering that. It has been mooted at the last couple of SCC meetings. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2023 9:19:38 GMT
We really need a fans representative on the board for transparency. Pigs might fly. Bill, interestingly enough, they are actually considering that. It has been mooted at the last couple of SCC meetings. What's the point? It will be someone like Steve Sayce who would be as effective as a water pistol in the blitz. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 9, 2023 9:21:46 GMT
Bill, interestingly enough, they are actually considering that. It has been mooted at the last couple of SCC meetings. What's the point? It will be someone like Steve Sayce who would be as effective as a water pistol in the blitz. No a fan chosen by the fans and various message boards,i vote for Hitman😂 |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 9, 2023 9:26:39 GMT
What's the point? It will be someone like Steve Sayce who would be as effective as a water pistol in the blitz. No a fan chosen by the fans and various message boards,i vote for Hitman😂 Yes, Hits, 77, Hal and Al would all be good. The old guard 😅 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2023 9:37:57 GMT
What's the point? It will be someone like Steve Sayce who would be as effective as a water pistol in the blitz. No a fan chosen by the fans and various message boards,i vote for Hitman😂 We can get Clive Whittingham appointed and kill the board by boredom reading one of his articles 👍 |
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Post by MattyRangers on Oct 9, 2023 9:38:45 GMT
No a fan chosen by the fans and various message boards,i vote for Hitman😂 We can get Clive Whittingham appointed and kill the board by boredom reading one of his articles 👍 Tbf his match write ups are blinding I think. Enjoyed reading the Blackburn report this morning moreso than I enjoyed the game itself. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 9, 2023 9:39:23 GMT
No a fan chosen by the fans and various message boards,i vote for Hitman😂 We can get Clive Whittingham appointed and kill the board by boredom reading one of his articles 👍 He'd put a glass eye to sleep him. Pompous as fuck too. Defo eats quinoa and lentil salads |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2023 9:41:08 GMT
We can get Clive Whittingham appointed and kill the board by boredom reading one of his articles 👍 Tbf his match write ups are blinding I think. Enjoyed reading the Blackburn report this morning moreso than I enjoyed the game itself. Each to their own but he's as funny as catching a bollock on a zip. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 9, 2023 10:29:48 GMT
No a fan chosen by the fans and various message boards,i vote for Hitman😂 Yes, Hits, 77, Hal and Al would all be good. The old guard 😅 Glad i am not in that group🤣 diplomacy is not my strong point. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 9, 2023 11:55:16 GMT
Agree Alan not logical does not make sense but with the board we have they must have some sort of purpose and strategy if this is the case. I have had my suspicions about this for ages as most on here know. All I would say is I’m not the least bit convinced by the training ground being a pointer to the ambition of the club. It’s a cleared site with a cheap building easily converted in future. A bet hedged. bit harsh imo Plus assuming fans investment in it means that would prevent any naughtiness |
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Post by Shania on Oct 9, 2023 11:57:51 GMT
It looks like he`s staying. Oh well.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 9, 2023 12:14:14 GMT
It looks like he`s staying. Oh well. it’s ok apparently he got all the club backing him, just not the pay him punter’s |
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Post by Bill on Oct 9, 2023 12:17:05 GMT
All I would say is I’m not the least bit convinced by the training ground being a pointer to the ambition of the club. It’s a cleared site with a cheap building easily converted in future. A bet hedged. bit harsh imo Plus assuming fans investment in it means that would prevent any naughtiness This lot bit like Thunderbirds anything could happen |
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