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Post by spongeparr on Apr 6, 2022 20:39:11 GMT
Those saying Farke (who is employed, I believe), how much would he want? How much would we offer?
Bielsa was also one of the top paid in the premiership. No chance we afford him.
Amazed at how many massive names get touted as options when they clearly aren't.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 6, 2022 20:45:44 GMT
Those saying Farke (who is employed, I believe), how much would he want? How much would we offer? Bielsa was also one of the top paid in the premiership. No chance we afford him. Amazed at how many massive names get touted as options when they clearly aren't. Terry from the dog and partridge be cheap |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 6, 2022 20:49:39 GMT
Don't get the negativity around Eustace. Respected enough in the industry to be interviewed for Manager jobs at sides of comparable size as us. I'd have no issues with him being given a chance. I'd prefer it if he got a few games as Caretaker first to see what sort of football he wants to play and how the players react to him. I'm assuming we are just wary cos 2 recent successful number 2's in McClaren and Ramsey turned out to be crap Managers. Personally that bares little relevance to considering Eustace for me. i don't get why people are so against appointing assistants in the first place. ten hag was assistant to mcclaren, mourinho to robson, arteta to guardiola, joe fagan to bob baisley who was also assistant to bill shankly. tonnes and tonnes of managers start out as assistants and then go on to do well. Fair points about Eustace. I quite like him too and it's true he is rated even though still unproven. I think it's more a matter of him becoming tarred with the same brush and guilty by association to MW. Your examples of assistants were part of successful sides, so a bit different. Knowing our board though I think it's conceivable they'll stick with MW 'til at least the end of the season. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 6, 2022 20:51:25 GMT
Amazed he's still in a job today myself Stan!
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Post by acricketer on Apr 6, 2022 21:38:45 GMT
They could go for Warnock it is possible Past it. Never go back! |
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Post by acricketer on Apr 6, 2022 21:40:46 GMT
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Post by shepherdsmush on Apr 6, 2022 22:18:04 GMT
Mark Robins
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Post by Corbray on Apr 6, 2022 22:25:06 GMT
think we gotta get someone hot in for a change. last few managers have all been pretty ugly. would love arteta or xabi alonso here tbh
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Post by Bill on Apr 6, 2022 23:14:37 GMT
Carlos Carvalhal
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 7, 2022 8:09:42 GMT
Mark Bircham is available!  |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 7, 2022 8:23:16 GMT
Mark Bircham is available!  Doesn't that post belong here? 🙂 |
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Post by hubble on Apr 7, 2022 10:23:33 GMT
If we're touting managers, first and foremost should be how they have performed on a similar budget, at a similar level. Bielsa and Farke had huge budgets compared to ours; I doubt they'd have been so successful managing a team like Rangers. That's why I posted that link to League 1 and 2 managers, they are the kind of people we should be looking at. Bottom line: almost anyone is a gamble. Until we are able to compete financially, any manager will be hamstrung by a limited budget. That's why I think - if we are going to get rid of Warbs - someone like Ainsworth is a decent option. It's got nothing to do with him being a former player (although I admit I loved him when he played for us), it's about pragmatism. As Tarbs has said, he has worked near-miracles with Wycombe, a team with a minute budget compared to the rest of the Championship. Getting them promoted to the Championship was no mean feat - and don't forget he got them promoted from League 2 the season before. And the fact that they got relegated is not a blemish as far as I'm concerned. And look at them now, top 6 in league 1 with 5 games to go. He combines passion with pragmatism - a great combination. I really don't get the sniffy attitude towards him. Names like Bielsa or Farke are frankly pie in the sky ambitions.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 7, 2022 10:33:44 GMT
Good argument made there. Wouldn’t have been my choice but has made me think. Plus he’s a couple of years further on now than when he was first mentioned with the experience of very nearly keeping a Div 1 team in the Champ.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 7, 2022 10:50:59 GMT
And if he brought Mehmeti with him we could get a few quid for Chair.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 7, 2022 10:52:00 GMT
AVB. Fits the profile, right age, English experience, exceptional PPM ratio wherever he's been. Free.
Different league to Bielsa or Farke. We're pissing in the wind either way because no one with credibility wants to work at poundland.
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Post by BrightonR on Apr 7, 2022 11:02:12 GMT
If we're touting managers, first and foremost should be how they have performed on a similar budget, at a similar level. Bielsa and Farke had huge budgets compared to ours; I doubt they'd have been so successful managing a team like Rangers. That's why I posted that link to League 1 and 2 managers, they are the kind of people we should be looking at. Bottom line: almost anyone is a gamble. Until we are able to compete financially, any manager will be hamstrung by a limited budget. That's why I think - if we are going to get rid of Warbs - someone like Ainsworth is a decent option. It's got nothing to do with him being a former player (although I admit I loved him when he played for us), it's about pragmatism. As Tarbs has said, he has worked near-miracles with Wycombe, a team with a minute budget compared to the rest of the Championship. Getting them promoted to the Championship was no mean feat - and don't forget he got them promoted from League 2 the season before. And the fact that they got relegated is not a blemish as far as I'm concerned. And look at them now, top 6 in league 1 with 5 games to go. He combines passion with pragmatism - a great combination. I really don't get the sniffy attitude towards him. Names like Bielsa or Farke are frankly pie in the sky ambitions.
Loved Ainsworth as a player. Terrific bloke in all respects. Just couldn’t bear him having to put up with some of the shit from the fans that would inevitably crop up sooner or later. He doesn’t deserve that. Much rather someone we can slag off without a tinge of guilt. 😂 |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 7, 2022 11:18:54 GMT
Little story about Gareth.
Bumped into him in the loos at the Houses of Parliament at a do organised by the club a few years back during the McClaren era.
We were both quite worse for wear but hit it off immediately being as we're both in bands and into music and QPR. It was right at the end of the evening so we walked out together chatting and both headed for Westminster tube. Had some great banter about music and football before he headed west and I headed north. His love for Rangers was clear and he's definitely ambitious as a manager. Overall that's what really came across. Lovely fella too and very open to talk to.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 7, 2022 11:22:03 GMT
Little story about Gareth. Bumped into him in the loos at the Houses of Parliament at a do organised by the club a few years back during the McClaren era. We were both quite worse for wear but hit it off immediately being as we're both in bands and into music and QPR. It was right at the end of the evening so we walked out together chatting and both headed for Westminster tube. Had some great banter about music and football before he headed west and I headed north. His love for Rangers was clear and he's definitely ambitious as a manager. Overall that's what really came across. Lovely fella too and very open to talk to. i can't wait for us fans to crush his optimism |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 7, 2022 11:34:04 GMT
Little story about Gareth. Bumped into him in the loos at the Houses of Parliament at a do organised by the club a few years back during the McClaren era. We were both quite worse for wear but hit it off immediately being as we're both in bands and into music and QPR. It was right at the end of the evening so we walked out together chatting and both headed for Westminster tube. Had some great banter about music and football before he headed west and I headed north. His love for Rangers was clear and he's definitely ambitious as a manager. Overall that's what really came across. Lovely fella too and very open to talk to. Mate of mine knows him quite well too Stan. Genuine, down to earth guy who loves QPR apparently. But I guess we all knew that anyway. I'd love to see him given a chance here. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 7, 2022 11:36:04 GMT
AVB. Fits the profile, right age, English experience, exceptional PPM ratio wherever he's been. Free. Different league to Bielsa or Farke. We're pissing in the wind either way because no one with credibility wants to work at poundland. AVB? You for real? |
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Post by hubble on Apr 7, 2022 11:37:22 GMT
Little story about Gareth. Bumped into him in the loos at the Houses of Parliament at a do organised by the club a few years back during the McClaren era. We were both quite worse for wear but hit it off immediately being as we're both in bands and into music and QPR. It was right at the end of the evening so we walked out together chatting and both headed for Westminster tube. Had some great banter about music and football before he headed west and I headed north. His love for Rangers was clear and he's definitely ambitious as a manager. Overall that's what really came across. Lovely fella too and very open to talk to. i can't wait for us fans to crush his optimism
Part and parcel of the game though, innit Corbs? All managers get dogs abuse at some point. If you don't have a thick skin, you shouldn't be in football management!
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 7, 2022 11:40:15 GMT
If we're touting managers, first and foremost should be how they have performed on a similar budget, at a similar level. Bielsa and Farke had huge budgets compared to ours; I doubt they'd have been so successful managing a team like Rangers. That's why I posted that link to League 1 and 2 managers, they are the kind of people we should be looking at. Bottom line: almost anyone is a gamble. Until we are able to compete financially, any manager will be hamstrung by a limited budget. That's why I think - if we are going to get rid of Warbs - someone like Ainsworth is a decent option. It's got nothing to do with him being a former player (although I admit I loved him when he played for us), it's about pragmatism. As Tarbs has said, he has worked near-miracles with Wycombe, a team with a minute budget compared to the rest of the Championship. Getting them promoted to the Championship was no mean feat - and don't forget he got them promoted from League 2 the season before. And the fact that they got relegated is not a blemish as far as I'm concerned. And look at them now, top 6 in league 1 with 5 games to go. He combines passion with pragmatism - a great combination. I really don't get the sniffy attitude towards him. Names like Bielsa or Farke are frankly pie in the sky ambitions.
Loved Ainsworth as a player. Terrific bloke in all respects. Just couldn’t bear him having to put up with some of the shit from the fans that would inevitably crop up sooner or later. He doesn’t deserve that. Much rather someone we can slag off without a tinge of guilt. 😂 I promise not to say a bad word about him Brighton. #anusworth 😜🤐 |
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Post by 1qprdk on Apr 7, 2022 12:03:53 GMT
I am certain that if wild thing hadn't been a former player, most of us would be happy to get him in. Bottom line is that Ainsworth is exactly the type of pragmatic manager, who would fit well in our current setup. No use bringing in a continental coach if we've mainly got poundland talent from lower leagues, Scotland, Ireland etc. sprinkled with a few has beens with experience from the championship and prem. We won't get the players to play an expansive passing game for the foreseeable future, except in small patches like this and last season.
Plus he's got a shit barnet 😋
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 7, 2022 12:13:37 GMT
Exactly DK. I've had enough seeing us try to play champagne football with players who aren't capable of doing. Playing through balls for strikers that can't run. Defenders trying to play it out from the back who can't pick a pass.
What's needed is a pragmatic manager who's able to effectively work with the players he has at his disposal and is willing to play to their strengths.
As I pointed out earlier on this thread. Our most successful spell under Warburton was 2nd half of last season when we seemed to switch to a more direct style of play. I'd love to know if that was a ploy by Warburton or whether the players just took matters into their own hands on the pitch.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 7, 2022 12:36:09 GMT
As I pointed out earlier on this thread. Our most successful spell under Warburton was 2nd half of last season when we seemed to switch to a more direct style of play. I'd love to know if that was a ploy by Warburton or whether the players just took matters into their own hands on the pitch. It was pointed out at the time that it was the Austin and Johansen Jan signings that were the catalyst for that turnaround and neither were MW signings. Can't recall who posted that. Coincided with a change of formation too. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 7, 2022 12:37:59 GMT
Me and others. I thought club saved his neck. We were going nowhere but down Jan 2021.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 7, 2022 12:42:01 GMT
As I pointed out earlier on this thread. Our most successful spell under Warburton was 2nd half of last season when we seemed to switch to a more direct style of play. I'd love to know if that was a ploy by Warburton or whether the players just took matters into their own hands on the pitch. It was pointed out at the time that it was the Austin and Johansen Jan signings that were the catalyst for that turnaround and neither were MW signings. Can't recall who posted that. Coincided with a change of formation too. Do we know that Austin and Johansen weren't MW signings then? |
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Post by Bill on Apr 7, 2022 12:47:04 GMT
So nobody rates Carlos got the owls to the playoffs twice.
Currently with Braga semi v Glasgow R in europa cup.
Played good football as I remember.
Out of contract in the summer
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 7, 2022 12:47:19 GMT
It was pointed out at the time that it was the Austin and Johansen Jan signings that were the catalyst for that turnaround and neither were MW signings. Can't recall who posted that. Coincided with a change of formation too. Do we know that Austin and Johansen weren't MW signings then? Not certain mate. It was Alan or someone else that said that. They can chime in if they want. We know though that MW's brief is to only target positions needed. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 7, 2022 12:47:39 GMT
It was pointed out at the time that it was the Austin and Johansen Jan signings that were the catalyst for that turnaround and neither were MW signings. Can't recall who posted that. Coincided with a change of formation too. Do we know that Austin and Johansen weren't MW signings then? Only that the club stumped up the cash no one thought they’d spend. |
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