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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Nov 23, 2022 16:46:56 GMT
Air of inevitability about this now for me. Wasn't there the same with Wolves though mate? |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 23, 2022 16:50:22 GMT
He no1 target now, so if he wants it it’s his
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 23, 2022 16:51:56 GMT
Air of inevitability about this now for me. Wasn't there the same with Wolves though mate? Very true mate. I just think there is even more weight behind this one after MB's trip up there the other week and Les's press statement yesterday. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Nov 23, 2022 17:21:41 GMT
so can we start calling him a wart faced cunt now/
also, can we get back to hiring shit managers that no one wants........like les, can do without this constant stress of battling to keep hold of a manager.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Nov 23, 2022 17:29:17 GMT
Didn't go to Wolves because we were top of the league and bright future ahead with us. Has had a reality check after five winless games. He's going now as this may be his only chance to join a bigger club.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Nov 23, 2022 17:40:41 GMT
All possibly true Timmy but he will struggle to come out of this with any cred after making those statements only a few weeks ago.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 23, 2022 17:41:38 GMT
Don’t think he gives a fuck what folk think.
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 23, 2022 17:51:34 GMT
All possibly true Timmy but he will struggle to come out of this with any cred after making those statements only a few weeks ago. Nobody other than QPR fans will remember mate! |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 23, 2022 18:04:20 GMT
All possibly true Timmy but he will struggle to come out of this with any cred after making those statements only a few weeks ago. Nobody other than QPR fans will remember mate! Yes the fans. And the players he gave assurances to; and their families; and all the staff and the owners. It’s a small industry. Would be very damaging PR-wise. People have long memories. He’d be remembered as a mercenary; and a hypocrite following a complete U-turn over his Wolves statement. He'd have to weigh all that up too, because currently his PR is very much intact. |
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Post by Shania on Nov 23, 2022 18:20:32 GMT
After the Wolverhampton debacle, he should off course have cancelled the visit to Glasgow. Irony alert: Long Live naivety.
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Post by Corbray on Nov 23, 2022 18:26:41 GMT
if he goes then i'd understand his reasoning. it'd still leave a very bitter taste though given all the crap last month.
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 23, 2022 18:28:37 GMT
can't see how g rangers is a better draw than wolves personally. just my opinion.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 23, 2022 18:33:24 GMT
can't see how g rangers is a better draw than wolves personally. just my opinion. agree wolves better job then rangers imo |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Nov 23, 2022 18:45:34 GMT
As someone else has said on here he keeps batting his eyes at other clubs. He could have closed this down in two minutes if he wasn't interested. If he doesn't go to this job he will go to another when its big enough. Never got the impression that he especially "got" QPR or felt for its traditions like Warbs did, it was just a tick on the cv on his way to something better.
He brings to mind this famous exchange:
George Bernard Shaw (1856-07-26 – 1950-11-02) was an Irish playwright, who received the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1925.
Anecdotal dialogue
GBS: Madam, would you sleep with me for a million pounds?
Actress: My goodness, Well, I’d certainly think about it.
GBS: Would you sleep with me for a pound?
Actress: Certainly not! What kind of woman do you think I am?!
GBS: Madam, we’ve already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.
I think we have already established what kind of man Mick Beale is.
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Post by sparks on Nov 23, 2022 18:51:35 GMT
I think he made that clear he was ambitious and was job hopping before he joined Stainrod.
I don’t see why he can’t behave like everybody else in football does.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Nov 23, 2022 18:55:51 GMT
I think he made that clear he was ambitious and was job hopping before he joined Stainrod. I don’t see why he can’t behave like everybody else in football does. Fair enough he one day wants to manage a bigger club but if you are acting this way after 20 odd games - half of which you have lost - I really struggle to retain much respect for the bloke. Do a job and prove yourself, then move on. Am sure Eddie Howe had more than one job offer when he was leading Bournemouth up through the leagues - that's a manager I respect. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 23, 2022 19:04:43 GMT
I think he made that clear he was ambitious and was job hopping before he joined Stainrod. I don’t see why he can’t behave like everybody else in football does. Fair enough he one day wants to manage a bigger club but if you are acting this way after 20 odd games - half of which you have lost - I really struggle to retain much respect for the bloke. Do a job and prove yourself, then move on. Am sure Eddie Howe had more than one job offer when he was leading Bournemouth up through the leagues - that's a manager I respect. Did Eddie Howe dignify every gutter press rumour with a response by 'shutting it down' everytime they linked him with a bigger job? |
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Post by 1973ranger on Nov 23, 2022 19:17:11 GMT
Career suicide as they will not finish above Celtic for the next 2 seasons at least and he will be gone. Walking out after his speech following the Wolves saga will not show him in a very good light.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Nov 23, 2022 20:05:53 GMT
Fair enough he one day wants to manage a bigger club but if you are acting this way after 20 odd games - half of which you have lost - I really struggle to retain much respect for the bloke. Do a job and prove yourself, then move on. Am sure Eddie Howe had more than one job offer when he was leading Bournemouth up through the leagues - that's a manager I respect. Did Eddie Howe dignify every gutter press rumour with a response by 'shutting it down' everytime they linked him with a bigger job? If he had been linked heavily with the job for a week, was odds on favourite for the job, had recently been a guest of the club, one he used to play for, I think he would have yes. You often refer to the gutter press - you said the same about the stories linking Beale to Wolves. But it turned out those reports were correct that there were discussions/ considerations - true, they jumped the gun in saying it was a done deal, but those stories certainly weren't made up as first suggested. Strongly suspect there is something similar here - or of course it would be denied, as no reason not to deny it. |
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Post by Shania on Nov 23, 2022 20:13:56 GMT
if he goes then i'd understand his reasoning. it'd still leave a very bitter taste though given all the crap last month. Wow, just wow.  ... |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 23, 2022 20:15:11 GMT
As someone else has said on here he keeps batting his eyes at other clubs. He could have closed this down in two minutes if he wasn't interested. If he doesn't go to this job he will go to another when its big enough. Never got the impression that he especially "got" QPR or felt for its traditions like Warbs did, it was just a tick on the cv on his way to something better. I personally have no problem with that at all. To a certain degree we knew that when we recruited him, so no great surprise. And if he stays and gets QPR promoted in the process then happy days. What kind of a man he is, or is portrayed as, is really of secondary concern. To be dispassionate about it, QPR can potentially benefit just as much as Beale by him using us a stepping stone. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 23, 2022 20:24:06 GMT
As someone else has said on here he keeps batting his eyes at other clubs. He could have closed this down in two minutes if he wasn't interested. If he doesn't go to this job he will go to another when it’s big enough. Never got the impression that he especially "got" QPR or felt for its traditions like Warbs did, it was just a tick on the cv on his way to something better. I personally have no problem with that at all. To a certain degree we knew that when we recruited him, so no great surprise. And if he stays and gets QPR promoted in the process then happy days. What kind of a man he is, or is portrayed as, is really of secondary concern. To be dispassionate about it, QPR can potentially benefit just as much as Beale by him using us a stepping stone. if he leaves, big if, after 21 games how have we benefited? |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 23, 2022 20:47:42 GMT
You often refer to the gutter press - you said the same about the stories linking Beale to Wolves. But it turned out those reports were correct that there were discussions/ considerations - true, they jumped the gun in saying it was a done deal, but those stories certainly weren't made up as first suggested. Strongly suspect there is something similar here - or of course it would be denied, as no reason not to deny it. Yellow sensationalist 'journalism' is why they jumped in saying Wolves was a done deal; when in fact it was bollocks and they got it totally wrong. So I think the gutter press tag is appropriate as it gives good journalism a bad name. UK being one of worst countries in the world for it. if he leaves, big if, after 21 games how have we benefited? Big if, as you say, but we clearly won't have in any tangible way. Although we're getting into hypotheticals again. OTOH if he's all he's cracked up to be as a coach, and why he's so sought after by big clubs like Wolves and now G Rangers, then you'd have thought getting a talent-ladened top 7 Championship club promoted (or even into playoffs) shouldn't be too beyond his capabilities. |
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Post by Corbray on Nov 23, 2022 20:50:34 GMT
if he goes then i'd understand his reasoning. it'd still leave a very bitter taste though given all the crap last month. Wow, just wow. ... ey? |
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Post by Shania on Nov 23, 2022 22:41:44 GMT
Wow, just wow. ... ey? Are you for real. Lol... |
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Post by awin on Nov 23, 2022 22:50:50 GMT
I’m confused too. Want to explain Shania? |
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Post by Shania on Nov 23, 2022 22:55:02 GMT
I’m confused too. Want to explain Shania? After Wolves, he said he was in a "relationship" with us, but now all of a sudden he wants out again? |
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Post by awin on Nov 23, 2022 22:55:54 GMT
Yeah but you wouldn’t understand his reasoning however disappointing?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 23, 2022 22:57:31 GMT
He will go rangers, be there 3 weeks4 days9 hrs21mins 3 secs and will leave for somewhere else
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Post by Shania on Nov 23, 2022 23:02:03 GMT
Yeah but you wouldn’t understand his reasoning however disappointing? In a way I would....Because has negotiated "cleverly".. |
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