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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 17, 2022 9:39:23 GMT
Ppl say no way sack him, but as said he on a hiding to nothing. He not been given all tools he needs so if fails board can blame him instead of looking at selves over squad.? The board wouldn't get away with that because most would be able to see it, and so would they if they were honest. It would be way too obvious. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 17, 2022 9:54:04 GMT
He is a nothing to loose appointment. If he succeeded it be great insight by them, if fails, inexperienced blah blah, we tried for manager direction fans wanted blah blah
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 17, 2022 10:19:17 GMT
The board need to by hook or crook get the man a bloody centre forward. If we had any kind of scouting team they would know who can be bought or loaned out.
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Post by jfrabbit on Aug 17, 2022 10:20:02 GMT
The board need to by hook or crook get the man a bloody centre forward. If we had any kind of scouting team they would know who can be bought or loaned out. Sell the fucking jock to raise funds. He’s an international after all 🙄 |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 17, 2022 10:24:01 GMT
He is a nothing to loose appointment. If he succeeded it be great insight by them, if fails, inexperienced blah blah, we tried for manager direction fans wanted blah blah That's not how it was sold at to the fans though. It was sold that the board had done far more extensive research and due diligence on this appointment than ever before. So can't agree with you that it wouldn't backfire on them if this recruitment fails. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 17, 2022 10:29:50 GMT
He is a nothing to loose appointment. If he succeeded it be great insight by them, if fails, inexperienced blah blah, we tried for manager direction fans wanted blah blah That's not how it was sold at to the fans though. It was sold that the board had done far more extensive research and due diligence on this appointment than ever before. So can't agree with you that it wouldn't backfire on them if this recruitment fails. Stan. Lets not kid ourselves this board are and have always been full of shyte. If they honestly wanted him to succeed then he should have the tools to do so. I do not understand why he would take this job on with sod all chance of getting players in. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 17, 2022 10:39:11 GMT
That's not how it was sold at to the fans though. It was sold that the board had done far more extensive research and due diligence on this appointment than ever before. So can't agree with you that it wouldn't backfire on them if this recruitment fails. Stan. Lets not kid ourselves this board are and have always been full of shyte. If they honestly wanted him to succeed then he should have the tools to do so. I do not understand why he would take this job on with sod all chance of getting players in. 73, I do think they want him to succeed but the club are now hamstrung by P&S rules. Yes the board take the blame for getting us into the situation in the first place but this is the reality the club is now in. Were they fully up front with Beale about transfer budget prior to his appointment? Nobody knows that. Maybe they were and he still wanted the job. Who knows. It's not true to say he's had no tools to do the job so far though because we have already made several signings and hopefully there may be more. IMO the main problem have been with the injuries to key players and I will reserve judgement for now until I see us at full strength or at least something close to resembling it. Only at that point do i believe it is fair to judge Beale because that's when you see his team. Furthermore the new players will have had time to gel and bed in by then. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 17, 2022 10:40:50 GMT
Imo, we have a squad for a 3-5-2 formation atm. Agree, if Field is DM. Beale isn’t a three at the back manager from what he says. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 17, 2022 10:43:36 GMT
We could have Jurgen Klopp but we still wouldn't have a pot to piss in transfer wise and would still have the same injuries.
I probably wouldn't have sacked Warbs unless he flat refused to develop younger players, but we made the switch and Beale will have my support as long as he remains manager. Still, several concerns from me:
the players don't seem to listen to him. He says himself they are not enacting his plan. It was obvs last night with all the fake Blackpool injuries resulting in drinks breaks that Beale was giving them instructions and they carried on doing the same old sh*t
tactically we seem naive at times. He had the wing backs bombing forward but that left us very weak defensively with only two centre halves and a left footed Dozzell effectively having to play right back for long stretches
think he gives far too much away to opposition managers in his pre match interviews re injuries etc
fans always like openness but this has resulted in him looking a little foolish on several occasions (eg we will get players in while we are away in Germany; boasting about how he insisted on keeping Willock and Amos on longer than he was advised, then they get injured)
openly questioning the sports science/ medical team - they seemed to work well last season helping us get game time out of a lot of crocks. maybe there are faults there but not sure publicly questioning them, talking about needing second opinions etc, is necessarily good management. clearly they were right and he was wrong about willock/ Amos.
maybe not his decision and more about budgets but not convinced by either of his full back signings - v early days obvs.
he doesn't seem to have woken up to the five subs rule - this should enable you to make subs earlier. Start of second half was crying out for a change but left it very late (shade of Warbs there)
he spoke very sensibly at start of season about how players should not be facing their own goal when receiving the ball, but literally that was all Stefan etc did. Why can't he get his ideas implemented?
can he really have thought Shodipo would make more of an impact than Uncle? Or is he pushing youngsters who probably aren't good enough to appease the board?
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Post by Shania on Aug 17, 2022 10:48:11 GMT
Imo, we have a squad for a 3-5-2 formation atm. Agree, if Field is DM. Beale isn’t a three at the back manager from what he says. Spot on. Stefan is not the answer. |
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Post by spongeparr on Aug 17, 2022 10:51:36 GMT
We could have Jurgen Klopp but we still wouldn't have a pot to piss in transfer wise and would still have the same injuries. I probably wouldn't have sacked Warbs unless he flat refused to develop younger players, but we made the switch and Beale will have my support as long as he remains manager. Still, several concerns from me: the players don't seem to listen to him. He says himself they are not enacting his plan. It was obvs last night with all the fake Blackpool injuries resulting in drinks breaks that Beale was giving them instructions and they carried on doing the same old sh*t tactically we seem naive at times. He had the wing backs bombing forward but that left us very weak defensively with only two centre halves and a left footed Dozzell effectively having to play right back for long stretches think he gives far too much away to opposition managers in his pre match interviews re injuries etc fans always like openness but this has resulted in him looking a little foolish on several occasions (eg we will get players in while we are away in Germany; boasting about how he insisted on keeping Willock and Amos on longer than he was advised, then they get injured) openly questioning the sports science/ medical team - they seemed to work well last season helping us get game time out of a lot of crocks. maybe there are faults there but not sure publicly questioning them, talking about needing second opinions etc, is necessarily good management. clearly they were right and he was wrong about willock/ Amos. maybe not his decision and more about budgets but not convinced by either of his full back signings - v early days obvs. he doesn't seem to have woken up to the five subs rule - this should enable you to make subs earlier. Start of second half was crying out for a change but left it very late (shade of Warbs there)
he spoke very sensibly at start of season about how players should not be facing their own goal when receiving the ball, but literally that was all Stefan etc did. Why can't he get his ideas implemented? can he really have thought Shodipo would make more of an impact than Uncle? Or is he pushing youngsters who probably aren't good enough to appease the board? As I said earlier, who comes on from the bench that improves it? |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 17, 2022 10:56:00 GMT
We could have Jurgen Klopp but we still wouldn't have a pot to piss in transfer wise and would still have the same injuries. I probably wouldn't have sacked Warbs unless he flat refused to develop younger players, but we made the switch and Beale will have my support as long as he remains manager. Still, several concerns from me: the players don't seem to listen to him. He says himself they are not enacting his plan. It was obvs last night with all the fake Blackpool injuries resulting in drinks breaks that Beale was giving them instructions and they carried on doing the same old sh*t tactically we seem naive at times. He had the wing backs bombing forward but that left us very weak defensively with only two centre halves and a left footed Dozzell effectively having to play right back for long stretches think he gives far too much away to opposition managers in his pre match interviews re injuries etc fans always like openness but this has resulted in him looking a little foolish on several occasions (eg we will get players in while we are away in Germany; boasting about how he insisted on keeping Willock and Amos on longer than he was advised, then they get injured) openly questioning the sports science/ medical team - they seemed to work well last season helping us get game time out of a lot of crocks. maybe there are faults there but not sure publicly questioning them, talking about needing second opinions etc, is necessarily good management. clearly they were right and he was wrong about willock/ Amos. maybe not his decision and more about budgets but not convinced by either of his full back signings - v early days obvs. he doesn't seem to have woken up to the five subs rule - this should enable you to make subs earlier. Start of second half was crying out for a change but left it very late (shade of Warbs there)
he spoke very sensibly at start of season about how players should not be facing their own goal when receiving the ball, but literally that was all Stefan etc did. Why can't he get his ideas implemented? can he really have thought Shodipo would make more of an impact than Uncle? Or is he pushing youngsters who probably aren't good enough to appease the board? As I said earlier, who comes on from the bench that improves it? Poor options I accept. but prob wd have brought uncle on earlier. Johansen almost anyone would have been an improvement. not sure why Bonne not even on the bench unless he is off. we had nothing to lose with 10 mins to go - surely he would have been worth chucking on, at least he is mobile unlike dykes |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 17, 2022 11:00:53 GMT
Johansen almost anyone would have been an improvement. There is literally no one better available. That's the problem. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 17, 2022 11:02:46 GMT
Stan. Lets not kid ourselves this board are and have always been full of shyte. If they honestly wanted him to succeed then he should have the tools to do so. I do not understand why he would take this job on with sod all chance of getting players in. 73, I do think they want him to succeed but the club are now hamstrung by P&S rules. Yes the board take the blame for getting us into the situation in the first place but this is the reality the club is now in. Were they fully up front with Beale about transfer budget prior to his appointment? Nobody knows that. Maybe they were and he still wanted the job. Who knows. It's not true to say he's had no tools to do the job so far though because we have already made several signings and hopefully there may be more. IMO the main problem have been with the injuries to key players and I will reserve judgement for now until I see us at full strength or at least something close to resembling it. Only at that point do i believe it is fair to judge Beale because that's when you see his team. Furthermore the new players will have had time to gel and bed in by then. Stan. I am wanting the man to succeed but they need to help him. No way does he have the tools as highlighted by our lack of goals. I do agree Willock and Amos being fit will be a huge boost. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 17, 2022 11:05:24 GMT
73, I do think they want him to succeed but the club are now hamstrung by P&S rules. Yes the board take the blame for getting us into the situation in the first place but this is the reality the club is now in. Were they fully up front with Beale about transfer budget prior to his appointment? Nobody knows that. Maybe they were and he still wanted the job. Who knows. It's not true to say he's had no tools to do the job so far though because we have already made several signings and hopefully there may be more. IMO the main problem have been with the injuries to key players and I will reserve judgement for now until I see us at full strength or at least something close to resembling it. Only at that point do i believe it is fair to judge Beale because that's when you see his team. Furthermore the new players will have had time to gel and bed in by then. Stan. I am wanting the man to succeed but they need to help him. No way does he have the tools as highlighted by our lack of goals. I do agree Willock and Amos being fit will be a huge boost. You keep saying "give him the tools" but as stated so many times now, we don't have the money |
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Post by Shania on Aug 17, 2022 11:05:33 GMT
Johansen almost anyone would have been an improvement. There is literally no one better available. That's the problem. That`s why I feel. and has said it for ages, we should bring in a similar type of player. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 17, 2022 11:21:02 GMT
Everyone saying sell skippy, who is going to buy him and pay enough to generate a cash flow for replacement?
Who?
Best we get maybe a loan away, if lucky.
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Post by spongeparr on Aug 17, 2022 13:00:04 GMT
Another problem is that even when these players come back; injuries will hit again and we'll have this problem.
There no freebies worth picking up?!
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Post by James1979 on Aug 17, 2022 15:46:09 GMT
To be even having this conversation after four games is farcical. But then again this is the internet, so should I be surprised? 🤣 I’m not sure anyone is seriously talking about whether to stick with him. He’ll be here whatever happens until end of the season. Even if we went down, I think we would stick. However, I doubt he would stay. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Aug 17, 2022 16:42:48 GMT
We could have Jurgen Klopp but we still wouldn't have a pot to piss in transfer wise and would still have the same injuries. I probably wouldn't have sacked Warbs unless he flat refused to develop younger players, but we made the switch and Beale will have my support as long as he remains manager. Still, several concerns from me: the players don't seem to listen to him. He says himself they are not enacting his plan. It was obvs last night with all the fake Blackpool injuries resulting in drinks breaks that Beale was giving them instructions and they carried on doing the same old sh*t tactically we seem naive at times. He had the wing backs bombing forward but that left us very weak defensively with only two centre halves and a left footed Dozzell effectively having to play right back for long stretches think he gives far too much away to opposition managers in his pre match interviews re injuries etc fans always like openness but this has resulted in him looking a little foolish on several occasions (eg we will get players in while we are away in Germany; boasting about how he insisted on keeping Willock and Amos on longer than he was advised, then they get injured) openly questioning the sports science/ medical team - they seemed to work well last season helping us get game time out of a lot of crocks. maybe there are faults there but not sure publicly questioning them, talking about needing second opinions etc, is necessarily good management. clearly they were right and he was wrong about willock/ Amos. maybe not his decision and more about budgets but not convinced by either of his full back signings - v early days obvs. he doesn't seem to have woken up to the five subs rule - this should enable you to make subs earlier. Start of second half was crying out for a change but left it very late (shade of Warbs there)
he spoke very sensibly at start of season about how players should not be facing their own goal when receiving the ball, but literally that was all Stefan etc did. Why can't he get his ideas implemented? can he really have thought Shodipo would make more of an impact than Uncle? Or is he pushing youngsters who probably aren't good enough to appease the board? As I said earlier, who comes on from the bench that improves it? He could start Armstrong even if his stamina would allow him to play only for 45 minutes. |
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Post by Bill on Aug 24, 2022 14:01:44 GMT
Think he has to be more vocal in games and more demanding from players effort
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Post by The General on Aug 24, 2022 14:26:33 GMT
Hes not gonna start Armstrong
He says hes protecting hin
Stuck with Dykes
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Post by The General on Aug 24, 2022 14:27:14 GMT
Why did we just not keep Grey joke
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 24, 2022 14:31:17 GMT
Hes not gonna start Armstrong I said you wanna be startin' Sinclair You got to be startin' Sinclair I said you wanna be startin' Sinclair You got to be startin' Sinclair It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah) Too low to get under (yeah, yeah) You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah) And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah) It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah) Too low to get under (yeah, yeah) You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah) And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah) |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 24, 2022 14:33:39 GMT
Hes not gonna start Armstrong I said you wanna be startin' Sinclair You got to be startin' Sinclair I said you wanna be startin' Sinclair You got to be startin' Sinclair It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah) Too low to get under (yeah, yeah) You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah) And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah) It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah) Too low to get under (yeah, yeah) You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah) And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah) FUCK OFF |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 24, 2022 14:34:36 GMT
Should add with the greatest of respect 🤣😂
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 24, 2022 14:36:38 GMT
Could be his song 😂
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 24, 2022 14:51:55 GMT
Get a drum n base beat on that
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 24, 2022 14:52:12 GMT
The fuck off i mean
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 24, 2022 15:05:59 GMT
Anyone would think you’re a musician……. |
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