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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 11, 2022 11:19:38 GMT
Moses. Left or right back. Should have kept him. As things stand, yes. But even he blew hot and cold. Yes we should have had a new RB by now but we are linked with several and am sure that will get sorted. It certainly seems a priority. Paal will be a good signing too I reckon. |
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Post by Shania on Aug 11, 2022 11:21:42 GMT
Moses. Left or right back. Should have kept him. But seldom fit... |
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Post by hubble on Aug 11, 2022 11:23:23 GMT
How much weaker our squad is than it was last season? Can't see any big difference.
Wallace, De Wijs, Odubajo, Barbet, Ball, Gray, all gone. Between them they offered a great deal of experience, especially in defence.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 11, 2022 12:39:22 GMT
How much weaker our squad is than it was last season? Can't see any big difference. agree aside from Grey none of the rest any loss. Possibly Moses for flexibility but always injured. Most expected this team/squad to go up last season and I’m assuming part of the reason for change in manager was to achieve this or challenge? If we got versatile lb/rb and striker are we not stronger then last season? I think were treading water with what we have compared to last season we’re not stronger nor weaker. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 11, 2022 13:10:43 GMT
If we got versatile lb/rb and striker are we not stronger then last season?. Yes we are IMO. |
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Post by sparks on Aug 11, 2022 13:16:21 GMT
Biggest difference from start of last season to this one is the players confidence, early last season MW had the players primed and ready, all of them knew what MW expected from them.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 11, 2022 13:18:58 GMT
How much weaker our squad is than it was last season? Can't see any big difference.
Wallace, De Wijs, Odubajo, Barbet, Ball, Gray, all gone. Between them they offered a great deal of experience, especially in defence.
And between them, with the exception of Barbet and Gray, they spent a lot more time on the treatment table than on the pitch. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Aug 11, 2022 13:39:24 GMT
How much weaker our squad is than it was last season? Can't see any big difference.
Wallace, De Wijs, Odubajo, Barbet, Ball, Gray, all gone. Between them they offered a great deal of experience, especially in defence.
De Wijs was loaned out. Paal and Clarke-Salter should be at least as good as Wallace and Barbet. Richards must be better than Ball who did not play much. We also have Roberts and Armstrong as new forwards. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Aug 11, 2022 13:54:13 GMT
Deserves at least the whole season regardless of what he's inherited imo. I think I'd agree, unless we're in the bottom three in early January. Then he would have to go. Had we signed Clement a few years back i think we would think about him like we think about Beale now and would all be willing to give him the whole season in all circumstances. You cannot make promises like that. |
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Post by Corbray on Aug 11, 2022 14:04:15 GMT
Deserves at least the whole season regardless of what he's inherited imo. I think I'd agree, unless we're in the bottom three in early January. Then he would have to go. Had we signed Clement a few years back i think we would think about him like we think about Beale now and would all be willing to give him the whole season in all circumstances. You cannot make promises like that. i think the acceptable season for most fans is anywhere in the top 12, anything below that and i imagine people would be questioning beale's creditendials as a manager. i like beale's honesty and professionalism but there's been a few things that i haven't liked, like how open at the back we look and how we switch off late into games. not writing off beale or even critisising him to any degree by any means as these are issues he himself has publically addressed. but beale also comes across as rather bland too lol so i do worry if he can galvanise a squad to really fight in a game. |
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Post by hal9thou on Aug 11, 2022 14:23:55 GMT
Managers become irrelevant when you simply don't have the staff. The owners bleat about their losses but a) that is the reality of the EFL and b) no one forced them to own a football club. They chose this.
They could have radically changed this club's fortunes by taking a punt before the wheels fell off last term. They chose not to.
There really is only so far anyone is going to go with the current regime in charge. They had a chance to do it on the cheap and they blew the fuck out of it.
They have no long term ambitions beyond holding on and praying a buyer comes rolling over the hill. Nothing else can explain their incompetence.
That is what Mick is having to work with. He's doing OK.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 11, 2022 14:52:27 GMT
Managers become irrelevant when you simply don't have the staff. The owners bleat about their losses but a) that is the reality of the EFL and b) no one forced them to own a football club. They chose this. They could have radically changed this club's fortunes by taking a punt before the wheels fell off last term. They chose not to. There really is only so far anyone is going to go with the current regime in charge. They had a chance to do it on the cheap and they blew the fuck out of it. They have no long term ambitions beyond holding on and praying a buyer comes rolling over the hill. Nothing else can explain their incompetence. That is what Mick is having to work with. He's doing OK. i think the owners have had a very mixed tenure in charge - most of it there own doing. but we've been run pretty well over the past few years to the owners credit and are in a position to be a sustainable club that are looking up the table rather than down it. if we suddenly sold our best players right now for fair prices then we could easily generate around 30m+ for them. no way could we have done that 4 or 5 years ago, plus we do have some eye for bringing in good youth prospects. it could be better for sure. we hear a lot about how much scouting we do but it does seem that a lot of the players brought in are heavily influenced by the manager or coaches. it seems a bit better this year in regards to paal, roberts and richards who do look like scout choices. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 16, 2022 22:37:06 GMT
Not impressed so far with his substitutions. 86 minutes 1 down to Blackpool and we bring Adomah on? Needs to be able to change things from the sideline to influence games.
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Post by MattyRangers on Aug 16, 2022 22:43:08 GMT
Only 4 games in so I am not rushing to any conclusions whatsoever, but based upon what I’ve seen to date I honestly don’t see any improvements on last season. Not just in results (as that’s a tangible), but in terms of style etc.
I like Beale, I like his honesty and he is clearly very knowledgeable… but I really think we need to see some improvement / progress in the next few games (admittedly injuries aren’t helping us).
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 16, 2022 22:45:53 GMT
I also like Beale and how frank he is when interviewed. Still having to use the same one paced midfielders we had last season. Need a striker badly as Dykes is just Dykes
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Post by jfrabbit on Aug 16, 2022 23:25:09 GMT
As others have mentioned far too early to judge / criticise BUT, his insistence on playing Dykes from the start is a worry.
Also, he makes odd subs and too late.
Needs to react quicker for me. Not proactive enough in changing before he’s forced to.
Needs to show some balls and drop Johansen too. The fella just can’t put in a decent performance.
He needs supporting in the transfer market for a striker. As short as we are up front I’d honestly move heaven and earth to get Dykes a move away to release funds and release a player that clearly does not play for the badge.
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Post by 72bus on Aug 16, 2022 23:30:32 GMT
A loss at Blackburn , loss at Charlton, loss at home to Blackpool , nearly thru away a 3 goal lead v boro and a lucky draw at Sunderland . It's going to be a long season . Really important to win Saturday or the 12+ we had tonight will dwindle . Saw how lavery was getting stuck in , why don't we have players willing to do that
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Post by James1979 on Aug 17, 2022 5:58:02 GMT
If he wants the full backs to be that attacking and advanced, it’s got to be 3 at the back with a holding midfielder. We were hit on the break on numerous occasions in 1st half. I don’t know whether he’s trying to be too clever or just has worked with better players.
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 17, 2022 6:02:36 GMT
You could also say no wins in three without Willock and Amos which highloghts how little the rest of our midfield offer on a attacking front.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 17, 2022 6:22:58 GMT
If he wants the full backs to be that attacking and advanced, it’s got to be 3 at the back with a holding midfielder. We were hit on the break on numerous occasions in 1st half. I don’t know whether he’s trying to be too clever or just has worked with better players. was worrying how often they got in with no reaction from the side to amend it we were wide open. Felt little bit like McLaren when he started he tried playing way which was not thought out Would also argue to play that high with FB you need quick CBs of which we don’t have |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 17, 2022 6:45:41 GMT
He on a hiding to nothing.
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 17, 2022 7:19:57 GMT
If he wants the full backs to be that attacking and advanced, it’s got to be 3 at the back with a holding midfielder. We were hit on the break on numerous occasions in 1st half. I don’t know whether he’s trying to be too clever or just has worked with better players. I would say latter James. Key will be to see how soon the penny drops or will he be stubborn like Warburton. He needs games but we need points. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 17, 2022 7:54:39 GMT
If he wants the full backs to be that attacking and advanced, it’s got to be 3 at the back with a holding midfielder. We were hit on the break on numerous occasions in 1st half. I don’t know whether he’s trying to be too clever or just has worked with better players. I would say latter James. Key will be to see how soon the penny drops or will he be stubborn like Warburton. He needs games but we need points. I can't see him doubling down like MW did. Very different personalities. Warbs was a lot more stubborn. I can see Beale adapting as it'll dawn on him the limitations of this squad. Add to the fact he's younger and less set in his ways could work to his advantage as hopefully it makes him more flexible. |
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Post by Shania on Aug 17, 2022 8:35:55 GMT
Imo, we have a squad for a 3-5-2 formation atm.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 17, 2022 8:46:40 GMT
I can’t see him lasting and we end up with a usual suspect bod in charge.
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Post by hubble on Aug 17, 2022 8:53:56 GMT
There's no way the board will sack him, he's got a season, minimum.
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 17, 2022 9:04:28 GMT
To be even having this conversation after four games is farcical. But then again this is the internet, so should I be surprised? 🤣
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Post by Corbray on Aug 17, 2022 9:19:20 GMT
To be even having this conversation after four games is farcical. But then again this is the internet, so should I be surprised? 🤣 people say silly stuff in the heat of the moment. right after the blackpool game i was thinking that beale was one of the most inept managers we've ever had lol |
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Post by spongeparr on Aug 17, 2022 9:24:17 GMT
No reason a 433 with attacking full backs shouldn't work. It just needs the holding midfielder to actually hold. I think the problem yesterday was that Blackpool had attacking full backs as well who had loads of time, but we had no one tracking them.
Having said that, in the first half of the first half, we caused them so many problems. Got in behind, worked the keeper and should have scored 3.
As for the subs ... look at the bench, who would you bring on to change things? Did the right sub with Johansen coming off, Chair dropping back and going 2 up top. All well and good saying make subs, but if you best available 11 are playing (albeit I know most say Dykes isn't in the best 11), who do you bring on. Shodipo did nothing, he isn't up to championship level. No midfield options. Admodah did his usual when coming on.
Without Richards, WIllock and Amos we lack any good attacking options on the bench.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 17, 2022 9:31:46 GMT
Ppl say no way sack him, but as said he on a hiding to nothing. He not been given all tools he needs so if fails board can blame him instead of looking at selves over squad.?
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