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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 8, 2022 10:35:05 GMT
How we're likely to set up next season:
2 CBs and 1 DM when in possession.
2 box-to-box CMs.
Wingbacks in a flat back 4.
Two AMs (Willock & Chair).
One up top.
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Post by spongeparr on Jun 8, 2022 10:36:39 GMT
Sounds very narrow unless we have wing backs who care more about attacking than defending.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 8, 2022 10:39:19 GMT
Sounds very narrow unless we have wing backs who care more about attacking than defending. It's explained if you watch the video, Sponge. Worth a watch if you're interested. Basically that depends on if we're in possession or not.
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Post by sparks on Jun 8, 2022 10:49:41 GMT
Is there a chance MB might stick to last seasons formation unless players are sold, that could be a sensible decision for an inexperienced manager to make starting out.
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Post by 1qprdk on Jun 8, 2022 10:55:38 GMT
Is there a chance MB might stick to last seasons formation unless players are sold, that could be a sensible decision for an inexperienced manager to make starting out. We've lost Barbet already, who played most games in the back 3.
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Post by Corbray on Jun 8, 2022 10:55:44 GMT
Is there a chance MB might stick to last seasons formation unless players are sold, that could be a sensible decision for an inexperienced manager to make starting out. i think its always an option yet i do think that it failed us at times last season, plus with barbet and wallace gone it'd be a bit harder to do this year. you'd imagine that our 2 CBs will be dunne and dickie which could work well although they're both a bit slow.
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Post by sparks on Jun 8, 2022 11:10:39 GMT
Is there a chance MB might stick to last seasons formation unless players are sold, that could be a sensible decision for an inexperienced manager to make starting out. We've lost Barbet already, who played most games in the back 3. I would think having Dickie as the central ball playing CB suits the player, Dunne out left and Masterson the other, side with Jordy as back up could be workable imo. For me Dunne and Dickie as a 2 would be asking for trouble.
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Post by Shania on Jun 8, 2022 11:29:08 GMT
Positioning is key, but anyway - one slow CB is OK, but the second one should have some pace imo. I think Dunne and Masterson(?) is the answer, although Masterson didn`t convince me positionally when he was here last.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 8, 2022 13:43:41 GMT
Given he’s not managed previously I assuming no one know what his style is as what he’s done before I’m assuming is driven by who was the manager
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Post by hal9thou on Jun 8, 2022 13:47:23 GMT
Obviously the speculation is complete guess work, since MB is intelligent enough to know that the players at your disposal ultimately dictate the set up, and not the other way around. Unlike some we could mention...
So FWIW my guess is it will be 4-3-3, 4-5-1 ball lost. Or very similar.
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 8, 2022 14:27:08 GMT
Given he’s not managed previously I assuming no one know what his style is as what he’s done before I’m assuming is driven by who was the manager Thought the same mate. More crap journalism from WLS.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 8, 2022 14:27:17 GMT
Given he’s not managed previously I assuming no one know what his style is as what he’s done before I’m assuming is driven by who was the manager Obviously the speculation is complete guess work, since MB is intelligent enough to know that the players at your disposal ultimately dictate the set up, and not the other way around. Unlike some we could mention... So FWIW my guess is it will be 4-3-3, 4-5-1 ball lost. Or very similar. Video covers these points too. Worth a watch. It's only 8 minutes long.
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Post by Shania on Jun 8, 2022 16:13:25 GMT
Given he will like us to play a high pressing game, I presume the days when we signed injury prone players are gone.
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 8, 2022 17:59:21 GMT
I'd say from the various interviews I've seen of Beale that he'll be looking to build a younger, fitter squad than we've had the last few seasons Shania.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 8, 2022 18:18:33 GMT
Obviously it's conjecture at this stage, but based on Gerrard's quotes about Beale (amongst others) as well as Beale's offish interview in which he outlined his intended playing style, it's certainly possible to make some educated guesses.
Bit harsh on WLS too. They do occasionally produce well researched pieces.
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 8, 2022 19:00:11 GMT
Fair enough Stan. I've just lost respect for them after the amount of brown nosing that was going on with Warburton. I also think both the blokes doing the video content are pretty crap. A pack of digestive biscuits have more personality.
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Post by Shania on Jun 8, 2022 19:13:54 GMT
It will be exciting to see what Beale & Co can do with a player like Kakay. He is generally fit. He is fast. But still not a regular and not crap (for that matter).
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Post by Greg1882 on Jun 8, 2022 20:54:45 GMT
It will be exciting to see what Beale & Co can do with a player like Kakay. He is generally fit. He is fast. But still not a regular and not crap (for that matter). We need a far better right back that kakay if we’ve got any ambition at all. He’s not good enough sadly
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 8, 2022 20:55:40 GMT
Yeah, Kakay is a squad player for me. Need new full backs on either side, for sure.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 8, 2022 21:08:09 GMT
And currently Dykes and Bonne are our two strikers 😜
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 8, 2022 21:18:28 GMT
Just talked about that on another thread Stan. Maybe they are considering Armstrong too?
Regardless, reckon we need a couple of strikers.
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Post by spongeparr on Jun 9, 2022 8:17:27 GMT
Young, energetic team could see Armstrong and Kelman come into their own? Didn't have much hope of that under Warburton if you believe the press.
Same with Duke Mckenna, he might get some game time too.
Agree with kakay as a squad player.
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 9, 2022 8:43:48 GMT
Duke-McKenna for sure.
For Kelman, I've seen absolutely nothing (aside from a couple of wonder goals for Southend on YouTube) to suggest he belongs at Championship level. Would love to be proved wrong though.
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Post by spongeparr on Jun 9, 2022 9:09:57 GMT
Duke-McKenna for sure. For Kelman, I've seen absolutely nothing (aside from a couple of wonder goals for Southend on YouTube) to suggest he belongs at Championship level. Would love to be prove. wrong though. Tricky one really. He was obviously scouted so we have seen something there. He is still fairly young (19?) but the only chances he got at QPR were the odd sub appearance for a few minutes; unfair to judge a young kid (most appearances he would have been about 18). I thought he looked sharp vs Oxford (I think) and getting the ball on the half way line and running with it. Something we don't do very often, unless it's Willock. With Beale who actively likes young players, we could see a run in the team for him if his training is up to it. All if's, buts and maybes though. Wishful thinking rather than realistic.
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Post by Corbray on Jun 9, 2022 9:37:51 GMT
Duke-McKenna for sure. For Kelman, I've seen absolutely nothing (aside from a couple of wonder goals for Southend on YouTube) to suggest he belongs at Championship level. Would love to be prove. wrong though. Tricky one really. He was obviously scouted so we have seen something there. He is still fairly young (19?) but the only chances he got at QPR were the odd sub appearance for a few minutes; unfair to judge a young kid (most appearances he would have been about 18). I thought he looked sharp vs Oxford (I think) and getting the ball on the half way line and running with it. Something we don't do very often, unless it's Willock. With Beale who actively likes young players, we could see a run in the team for him if his training is up to it. All if's, buts and maybes though. Wishful thinking rather than realistic. agreed, kelman looks lightweight but is still so young. at his age i was like a lampost, now i'm sadly more like 20 lamposts. he could still come good so who knows? i think sinclair will get minutes this season. aldershot fans were absolutely inlove with him and said he was the most gifted and exciting player they've had in years and all earmarked him for a bright future. fair enough its only the NL but sinclair was only 18 so its still impressive nonetheless.
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Post by spongeparr on Jun 9, 2022 10:33:14 GMT
Tricky one really. He was obviously scouted so we have seen something there. He is still fairly young (19?) but the only chances he got at QPR were the odd sub appearance for a few minutes; unfair to judge a young kid (most appearances he would have been about 18). I thought he looked sharp vs Oxford (I think) and getting the ball on the half way line and running with it. Something we don't do very often, unless it's Willock. With Beale who actively likes young players, we could see a run in the team for him if his training is up to it. All if's, buts and maybes though. Wishful thinking rather than realistic. agreed, kelman looks lightweight but is still so young. at his age i was like a lampost, now i'm sadly more like 20 lamposts. he could still come good so who knows? i think sinclair will get minutes this season. aldershot fans were absolutely inlove with him and said he was the most gifted and exciting player they've had in years and all earmarked him for a bright future. fair enough its only the NL but sinclair was only 18 so its still impressive nonetheless. Torquay fans said the same thing. The bloke on TalkSport was saying he is the best player he has seen at any team for a long time.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jun 9, 2022 13:29:40 GMT
And currently Dykes and Bonne are our two strikers 😜 If Armstrong is as good as he sounds he should have both of them clearly in his sights. Big enough, good enough = old enough as far as I’m concerned.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 12, 2022 12:09:51 GMT
Interesting discussion on latest WLS podcast. Kevin Gallen and his co-presenters' views are in stark contrast to many posted here. An echo-chamber is one thing RFI isn't.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 12, 2022 18:25:40 GMT
Interesting discussion on latest WLS podcast. Kevin Gallen and his co-presenters' views are in stark contrast to many posted here. An echo-chamber is one thing RFI isn't. We are definitely not an echo chamber, Stan. We are a mental asylum.
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Post by hal9thou on Jun 12, 2022 19:44:46 GMT
Interesting discussion on latest WLS podcast. Kevin Gallen and his co-presenters' views are in stark contrast to many posted here. An echo-chamber is one thing RFI isn't. Dunno, the thing they seemed to be going on about was lack of pace last year, ie the exact same thing RFI posters have been banging on about for months (ie slow transitions etc). Disclaimer: didn't listen to the whole podcast though....
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