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Post by Timmy Doc on Mar 30, 2024 16:29:00 GMT
frey is still a massive upgrade on dykes, didn't have a great game yesterday but if dykes had put in that performance we'd be saying he had a good game such is dykes uselessness on the pitch lol. frey at least knows how to lead the line and is always eager to be in the box and on the end of things. fully agree that he's not the answer to our striker woes though although we'd all love to be wrong about that. One goal in eight or nine games, one missed penalty. Doesn't sound like a MASSIVE upgrade to me.
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Post by Corbray on Mar 30, 2024 16:40:54 GMT
frey is still a massive upgrade on dykes, didn't have a great game yesterday but if dykes had put in that performance we'd be saying he had a good game such is dykes uselessness on the pitch lol. frey at least knows how to lead the line and is always eager to be in the box and on the end of things. fully agree that he's not the answer to our striker woes though although we'd all love to be wrong about that. One goal in eight or nine games, one missed penalty. Doesn't sound like a MASSIVE upgrade to me. my nan who's been dead since 05 is a MASSIVE upgrade when the original striking option is dykes. dykes is hopeless and imo the worst striker i've ever seen at the club. fair enough i've only supported us since our promotion from league 1 but no other striker has played as much or been given as many opportunities to fail like dykes has. of all the truly stupid decisions our club has done i feel like giving that turd a new 4 year deal in the summer after having an offer from millwall is right up there as truly brain-dead lol. frey's stats aren't great i will agree but i trust what i see with my own eyes and he's not been as bad as dykes, the only thing to really write off is his abysmal pace (to bring up my nan again, it'd be a close race over 100m). modern strikers aren't solely goalscorers nowadays though. they lead the line, free up space and draw in defenders which is something frey does far better than dykes.
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Post by Shania on Mar 30, 2024 17:30:05 GMT
Have we ever tried Smyth alone up front?
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Post by Corbray on Mar 30, 2024 17:33:11 GMT
Have we ever tried Smyth alone up front? don't think that would be too wise tbh but i wouldn't be opposed to an interchangeable front 4 of andersen, smyth, willock and chair. smyth deserves a shot off the left wing as well as that's where he played and scored some right bangers for orient
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 30, 2024 18:42:05 GMT
frey is still a massive upgrade on dykes, didn't have a great game yesterday but if dykes had put in that performance we'd be saying he had a good game such is dykes uselessness on the pitch lol. frey at least knows how to lead the line and is always eager to be in the box and on the end of things. fully agree that he's not the answer to our striker woes though although we'd all love to be wrong about that. One goal in eight or nine games, one missed penalty. Doesn't sound like a MASSIVE upgrade to me. No, but just moving around and chasing down defenders IS a massive upgrade. None of them any good but Donkey is the worst.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 30, 2024 20:08:47 GMT
Frey has a decent scoring record in Europe, so hoping he can translate that into Championship football, which he's clearly still adapting to. Get the feeling he just needs a goal to settle down and hopefully go on a run.
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Post by Shania on Mar 30, 2024 20:37:45 GMT
Speaking about strikers: Conor Chaplin is a striker we could have bought when Barnsley( ?) went down a few seasons ago. Look at him now; scoring for fun for Ipswich.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 30, 2024 21:50:32 GMT
You were right about Marti Shania, give us some strikers he might know well?
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 1, 2024 18:40:47 GMT
How many times have we all said this? It's absolutely ridiculous we'd start a season with the tripe up top that we did. If we get out of this, I hope it's a massive lesson learned from the club. You need a goal scorer or two or you'll struggle. It's really not rocket science. Ferdinand's legacy. Cheers Les.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 1, 2024 18:43:21 GMT
Here's a question: IF (big If) Eze is sold and we get some money in for a couple of strikers, should Armstrong go out on loan next season and start every game? Or does he remain as an impact sub?
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Post by awin on Apr 1, 2024 18:44:12 GMT
Here's a question: IF (big If) Eze is sold and we get some money in for a couple of strikers, should Armstrong go out on loan next season and start every game? Or does he remain as an impact sub? Impact sub for me, he’s learning so much from Marti.
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 1, 2024 20:32:27 GMT
Poor Michy 😅
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Post by awin on Apr 1, 2024 20:56:35 GMT
Was on the winning side. 😁
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 1, 2024 21:39:46 GMT
hahaha! they have a point, but yes it does pose the question to Swansea "how shit must you be?"
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 7, 2024 15:24:50 GMT
A big issue for me is every fan (and we can be sure the manager) think we need at the very least one decent striker.
But always at QPR we need to clear out before we can bring in:
All under contract:
Dykes Armstrong Kelman (forgotten man)
Also poss under contract:
Frey
That’s potentially four strikers all very difficult to shift with prob less than a projected 10 goals between them a season.
That’s a problem.
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Post by 1qprdk on May 8, 2024 7:15:49 GMT
A big issue for me is every fan (and we can be sure the manager) think we need at the very least one decent striker. But always at QPR we need to clear out before we can bring in: All under contract: Dykes Armstrong Kelman (forgotten man) Also poss under contract: Frey That’s potentially four strikers all very difficult to shift with prob less than a projected 10 goals between them a season. That’s a problem. Kelman's contract is up this summer I think. Maybe we are able to shift Dykes after Euros? I do hope so. Then we are probably stuck with Frey for another year, but he may perform better after a full preseason? Armstrong will also benefit from a full preseason under Marti and Xavi. Get in one experienced goalmachine and a young talent on loan to push the other two, and I would be happy. Getting rid of Dykes would be enough really. Rest is a bonus.
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Post by Shania on May 8, 2024 8:31:54 GMT
Frey needs a new gear box that`s why he is out. Now my source tells me that he will have a new on in place ahead of the pre season campaign.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 8, 2024 12:18:46 GMT
A big issue for me is every fan (and we can be sure the manager) think we need at the very least one decent striker. But always at QPR we need to clear out before we can bring in: All under contract: Dykes Armstrong Kelman (forgotten man) Also poss under contract: Frey That’s potentially four strikers all very difficult to shift with prob less than a projected 10 goals between them a season. That’s a problem. Kelman's contract is up this summer I think. Maybe we are able to shift Dykes after Euros? I do hope so. Then we are probably stuck with Frey for another year, but he may perform better after a full preseason? Armstrong will also benefit from a full preseason under Marti and Xavi. Get in one experienced goalmachine and a young talent on loan to push the other two, and I would be happy. Getting rid of Dykes would be enough really. Rest is a bonus. Stand to be corrected but I thought (for inexplicable reasons) we gave Kelman another year? I wish I shared your optimism on Dykes. Really struggle to see anyone paying a fee for him with his goal stats. One way or another I reckon its 70% likely he will be here next season.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 8, 2024 12:22:07 GMT
struggle to see anyone paying a fee for him with his goal stats. Given his mini uptick in form at the end of the season, and if he has a decent Euros (Clarke was at the Leeds game), then you just never know... 🤞
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 8, 2024 12:34:00 GMT
struggle to see anyone paying a fee for him with his goal stats. Given his mini uptick in form at the end of the season, and if he has a decent Euros (Clarke was at the Leeds game), then you just never know... 🤞Obvs hope you two fellas (am I allowed to say that still?) are right. I just fear there is a fairly big gap between what we as fans would like to happen and what is realistically going to happen. What I do think possible with Marti's brand of football and our prospects for next season is that a Premier League club loans us a young striker, ideally one with a year in the Champ already.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 8, 2024 14:45:06 GMT
I just fear there is a fairly big gap between what we as fans would like to happen and what is realistically going to happen. Given his mini uptick in form at the end of the season, and if he has a decent Euros (Clarke was at the Leeds game), then you just never know...🤞I didn't say it's what I'd like Stains. Just saying it's possible.
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Post by hal9thou on May 8, 2024 15:01:58 GMT
A big issue for me is every fan (and we can be sure the manager) think we need at the very least one decent striker. But always at QPR we need to clear out before we can bring in: All under contract: Dykes Armstrong Kelman (forgotten man) Also poss under contract: Frey That’s potentially four strikers all very difficult to shift with prob less than a projected 10 goals between them a season. That’s a problem. I'd get rid of all of them. Frey was an injury worry before he even got on the plane, Armstrong needs a bit of league one, Kelman was never remotely a striker at this level, and Dykes doesn't trouble good defences on a regular basis. None of them look like they could regularly take on a defender and go past him while controlling a football. We need to face reality and move them on ASAP.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 8, 2024 16:58:37 GMT
But how do you “get rid” if they are all under contract?
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Post by alanwycombe on May 8, 2024 18:21:58 GMT
And nobody comes in for them? Maybe someone will see something in Dykes at the Euros 🤞
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Post by Stanley75 on May 8, 2024 18:39:16 GMT
Worst case scenario, player's contracts get paid off, cut your losses and wave goodbye.
We've certainly done that with our fair share of managers in recent times!
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Post by Bill on May 8, 2024 21:43:57 GMT
Frey needs a new gear box that`s why he is out. Now my source tells me that he will have a new on in place ahead of the pre season campaign. Include new driveshafts ,fuel injection,twin turbos and he might make it to half time.
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Post by Bill on May 8, 2024 21:46:01 GMT
Worst case scenario, player's contracts get paid off, cut your losses and wave goodbye. We've certainly done that with our fair share of managers in recent times! Need new money for that Stan as paying players off adds to the cost of adequate replacements. Maybe the yanks will turn up ?
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Post by Bill on May 8, 2024 21:47:01 GMT
And nobody comes in for them? Maybe someone will see something in Dykes at the Euros 🤞 His tatoos.
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Post by West Acton on May 9, 2024 12:44:12 GMT
Pains me to say as they are not an inspiring bunch but when all playing to their optimum Dykes is the best of a shocking bunch.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 9, 2024 20:21:26 GMT
as for targets, my personal choice would be langstaff of notts county. guy is a goalscoring machine and could be available for cheap. aside from him there are many examples of unearthed gems being dug up by championship clubs and going on to bigger and better things, joel piroe and gyokores spring to mind as some of the more recent ones. Thomas Asante: 300k Joel Piroe: 1 million Oscar Estupinan: Free Viktor Gyokeres: 1.2 million Martyn Waghorn: Free Elijah Adebayo: 250k Carlton Morris: Free Michael Obafemi: 1.5 million Macaulay Langstaff: 700k Johnson Clarke Harris
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