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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 13:20:40 GMT
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Post by hubble on Feb 6, 2020 13:26:46 GMT
I wonder why now? Is Les wanting out?
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 6, 2020 13:31:23 GMT
Not one example given. Our chairman, entire board, DoF, DoA and two most valuable players are BAME. The entire fan base was aghast at our failure to keep Nakhi..... ππ
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 6, 2020 13:39:41 GMT
Not one example given. Our chairman, entire board, DoF, DoA and two most valuable players are BAME. The entire fan base was aghast at our failure to keep Nakhi..... ππ Agree with all this and was a bit baffled by his βof course there is racist QPR fansβ but as we all know it only takes one. Unfortunately that tarnishes the club and legitimizes his point. Only positive in that article is heβs saying within 1-2 seasons we should be able to βcompeteβ again. Weβll see.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 6, 2020 13:40:50 GMT
Not one example given. Our chairman, entire board, DoF, DoA and two most valuable players are BAME. The entire fan base was aghast at our failure to keep Nakhi..... ππ Not one example given, are you saying it's not happening and he's made it up?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 13:42:55 GMT
Not one example given. Our chairman, entire board, DoF, DoA and two most valuable players are BAME. The entire fan base was aghast at our failure to keep Nakhi..... ππ
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 6, 2020 13:50:50 GMT
Not one example given. Our chairman, entire board, DoF, DoA and two most valuable players are BAME. The entire fan base was aghast at our failure to keep Nakhi..... ππ Iβm not sure a fan wanting to keep Wells qualifies them as not racist. It sort of proves how ignorant and stupid some racist fans are. Coat off other teams black players with racist vitriol yet cheer their own black players. Happens all the time.
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 6, 2020 13:58:18 GMT
Not one example given. Our chairman, entire board, DoF, DoA and two most valuable players are BAME. The entire fan base was aghast at our failure to keep Nakhi..... ππ Not one example given, are you saying it's not happening and he's made it up? No. At best it's a handful of loonies.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 6, 2020 14:25:17 GMT
Not one example given. Our chairman, entire board, DoF, DoA and two most valuable players are BAME. The entire fan base was aghast at our failure to keep Nakhi..... ππ Agree with all this and was a bit baffled by his βof course there is racist QPR fansβ but as we all know it only takes one. Unfortunately that tarnishes the club and legitimizes his point. Only positive in that article is heβs saying within 1-2 seasons we should be able to βcompeteβ again. Weβll see. That's fantastic,we be able to buy naki when he's 33π
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Post by Corbray on Feb 6, 2020 14:49:19 GMT
Not one example given, are you saying it's not happening and he's made it up? No. At best it's a handful of loonies. exactly, MOST qpr fans aren't racist and find it absolutely disgusting. if a fan started slinging the n word around at a game i could guarentee that he'd be jumped on by other fans there. i won't deny that les has received racist abuse from so called fans, odds are he has but no way is it ok to paint this club as racist because of it. any fan who feels the need to hurl racial abuse at someone can fuck off out of the club and head to russia to support zenit, they're not welcome here.
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Post by esoxlucius on Feb 6, 2020 15:10:39 GMT
No. At best it's a handful of loonies. exactly, MOST qpr fans aren't racist and find it absolutely disgusting. if a fan started slinging the n word around at a game i could guarentee that he'd be jumped on by other fans there. i won't deny that les has received racist abuse from so called fans, odds are he has but no way is it ok to paint this club as racist because of it. any fan who feels the need to hurl racial abuse at someone can fuck off out of the club and head to russia to support zenit, they're not welcome here. Same for any kind of hate abuse. Don't want to hear it at QPR. I know most of our fans at games do the right thing when it comes to this when it rears it's ugly head. That disgusting Drogba song didn't last long once a fw people who were singing it had had a word in their ear.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 6, 2020 15:24:46 GMT
Being from essexshire,the most historic cultural,diverse,beautiful place in the world,I would never ram it down you lesser folk throats or belittle u peasants. After all you all the same outside of gods chosen country black white or other.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 6, 2020 16:53:16 GMT
Anyone else get bored of talking about race?
Here in SA it's about all they ever talk about. Then in the UK we have constant campaigns and initiatives. I'm not a fan of any of it. I'm not a believer in positive discrimination or any form of social engineering. To me it's still discrimination, even if it is with good intentions.
Personally I think we should just stop differentiating between different skin colours. Just consider us all to be human beings and let the rest sort itself out. Is that really too much to ask for?
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Post by hal9thou on Feb 6, 2020 17:36:29 GMT
Like with anything else, there's criticism which can be justified and then there's the rest.
Les was employed with absolutely no experience. For which he has been handsomely rewarded. I question the quality of his input (his role re the demise of Warnock mk 2 especially) and deplore the whining tone of much of what he has said in public.
Hughes, Harold, Ollie and Warburton are not black. I questioned their input as well. Then again JFH is black and I thought he was an awful appointment and an awful manager.
In the end though the buck stops with the boardroom genius who oversaw this catalogue of poor decision making. #cornershop #fillingstation
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 6, 2020 18:36:03 GMT
Anyone else get bored of talking about race? Here in SA it's about all they ever talk about. Then in the UK we have constant campaigns and initiatives. I'm not a fan of any of it. I'm not a believer in positive discrimination or any form of social engineering. To me it's still discrimination, even if it is with good intentions. Personally I think we should just stop differentiating between different skin colours. Just consider us all to be human beings and let the rest sort itself out. Is that really too much to ask for? Race has not been talked about a lot over here. No time as all banging on about brexit ,climate change,non genderism and love island
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Post by The General on Feb 6, 2020 18:50:35 GMT
Think Les could have left this out of this interview
He's obviously really pissed off about it and decided to have a pop back at the people that hurled the abuse to call them out
Competitive in two years that probably mean five in QPR timescales bit like a dogs age
Here's hoping anyway
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Post by Shania on Feb 6, 2020 23:01:14 GMT
He should have explained why he failed to bring in a striker, that would have been far more interesting imo..
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Post by The General on Feb 7, 2020 9:53:32 GMT
Exactly Shania and two defenders and a goalkeeper
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Post by hubble on Feb 7, 2020 10:06:40 GMT
I see you've merged two separate threads here Stan. I'm not sure that's helpful in this instance as there is a long gap between Les's proclamations and they reference difference things, the obvious connection being of course that he talks about racism. I think a link to the previous thread would have sufficed. However, it does highlight that this is something Les is passionate about (one way of looking at it), or perhaps he feels he's not being heard by the media? Perhaps he wants to be a spokesperson?
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Post by Bill on Feb 7, 2020 11:27:42 GMT
Anyone else get bored of talking about race? Here in SA it's about all they ever talk about. Then in the UK we have constant campaigns and initiatives. I'm not a fan of any of it. I'm not a believer in positive discrimination or any form of social engineering. To me it's still discrimination, even if it is with good intentions. Personally I think we should just stop differentiating between different skin colours. Just consider us all to be human beings and let the rest sort itself out. Is that really too much to ask for? Very well put Tarbie,it seems they think they have a divine right to become whatever normally you get what you deserve by the effort you put in,nobody should get a job because they are white black brown yellow or whatever.
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Post by Bill on Feb 7, 2020 11:33:58 GMT
Sometimes words roll of your tongue without really thinking about it especially in the surroundings of a football match and other stressfull situations.
I would wager that most on here during their life have done this.
I would never intentionally racially abuse or abuse any other part of our community but again I wager that most on here have abused an opposition player at some stage.
In r block Luis Suarez was likened to a squirrel a few years back,one of the funniest things I have heard at football.
Was that abusive?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 7, 2020 11:41:32 GMT
Only if it was a red squirrel,if was grey that ageist.
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Post by Shania on Feb 7, 2020 11:55:47 GMT
I see you've merged two separate threads here Stan. I'm not sure that's helpful in this instance as there is a long gap between Les's proclamations and they reference difference things, the obvious connection being of course that he talks about racism. I think a link to the previous thread would have sufficed. However, it does highlight that this is something Les is passionate about (one way of looking at it), or perhaps he feels he's not being heard by the media? Perhaps he wants to be a spokesperson?
That seems plausible, but the timing was bad and it just heaps pressure on the whole club and him especially ahead of a very challenging last part of the season, imo. Tony being investigated is a seperate issue, but what about keeping a low profile for a while?
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Post by esoxlucius on Feb 7, 2020 12:08:08 GMT
Sometimes words roll of your tongue without really thinking about it especially in the surroundings of a football match and other stressful situations. I would wager that most on here during their life have done this. I would never intentionally racially abuse or abuse any other part of our community but again I wager that most on here have abused an opposition player at some stage. In r block Luis Suarez was likened to a squirrel a few years back,one of the funniest things I have heard at football. Was that abusive? Was that the "Your teeth are offside" chant? It was definitely funny without being hatefully abusive. "He's got a pineapple on his head" was another in a similar vein. I suppose "shit fucking haircut" should be in there too. :-)
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 7, 2020 12:17:44 GMT
Its ok laughing but have u thought of jasons barber or Suarez dentist feelings.
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Post by esoxlucius on Feb 7, 2020 13:03:22 GMT
Its ok laughing but have u thought of jasons barber or Suarez dentist feelings. His dentist denies ever having met him, he was at a pizzeria in Epsom at the time.
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Post by 72bus on Feb 7, 2020 14:23:28 GMT
Never heard any rascism home of away from our fans , Les should name names provide proof and ban these idiots
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Post by Bill on Feb 7, 2020 17:29:50 GMT
Sometimes words roll of your tongue without really thinking about it especially in the surroundings of a football match and other stressful situations. I would wager that most on here during their life have done this. I would never intentionally racially abuse or abuse any other part of our community but again I wager that most on here have abused an opposition player at some stage. In r block Luis Suarez was likened to a squirrel a few years back,one of the funniest things I have heard at football. Was that abusive? Was that the "Your teeth are offside" chant? It was definitely funny without being hatefully abusive. "He's got a pineapple on his head" was another in a similar vein. I suppose "shit fucking haircut" should be in there too. :-) [b No....are you Luus Suarez in disguise
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Post by Bill on Feb 7, 2020 17:31:16 GMT
Never heard any rascism home of away from our fans , Les should name names provide proof and ban these idiots Really i have over the years
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Post by Bill on Feb 7, 2020 17:33:50 GMT
Sometimes words roll of your tongue without really thinking about it especially in the surroundings of a football match and other stressful situations. I would wager that most on here during their life have done this. I would never intentionally racially abuse or abuse any other part of our community but again I wager that most on here have abused an opposition player at some stage. In r block Luis Suarez was likened to a squirrel a few years back,one of the funniest things I have heard at football. Was that abusive? Was that the "Your teeth are offside" chant? It was definitely funny without being hatefully abusive. "He's got a pineapple on his head" was another in a similar vein. I suppose "shit fucking haircut" should be in there too. :-) Oh now we move the goalposts to hatefully racist please explain the difference?
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