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Post by West Acton on Jun 18, 2022 7:20:28 GMT
Looks like some players may have been tested for fitness before pre season begins. Of all the players I would guess MB will improve Chair the most this season. Think that’s old video as the training gear is two years old and response is to the signing |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 5, 2022 11:17:56 GMT
I'm not a massive fan of Chair, I think he's ok, decent at this level, that's about it. He'd be a prem player if he had a left foot. But he doesn't; that's why he's a QPR player. I know this has been asked before but no one has ever answered lol: Why doesn't Ilias Chair work on his weaker foot? This question ranks right up with the great Andre Gray QPR mystery. |
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Post by Greg1882 on Aug 5, 2022 12:01:16 GMT
Would take 8 mill in a heartbeat. I'm not a massive fan of Chair, I think he's ok, decent at this level, that's about it. 100%. Greedy player who more often than not has no end product, is absolutely shocking from a set piece and is one footed. Looks like he’s sulking half the time too. Ok but totally replaceable |
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Post by Bill on Aug 5, 2022 12:02:59 GMT
best we have at the moment
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 5, 2022 12:13:10 GMT
best we have at the moment Not necessarily, now we have Richards + Willock. Which makes a striker and RB even more of a priority. Cash in. |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 5, 2022 13:57:41 GMT
I'm not a massive fan of Chair, I think he's ok, decent at this level, that's about it. He'd be a prem player if he had a left foot. But he doesn't; that's why he's a QPR player. I know this has been asked before but no one has ever answered lol: Why doesn't Ilias Chair work on his weaker foot? This question ranks right up with the great Andre Gray QPR mystery. I would put up an argument against this stan if you don’t object. Having two feet makes him better but if he still plays In Wrong areas, hogs ball and does not know when release it then he’s still not prem standard. Prem is another level of expectations |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 5, 2022 14:02:06 GMT
best we have at the moment problem for me bill is he’s seen as our main player arguably but if we’re honest do we think he’s going take us to another level like Play offs? If he’s not get what you can and try something new. Is this is fourth season in team |
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Post by James1979 on Aug 5, 2022 14:30:43 GMT
If our model is to develop and sell on at profit, why wouldn’t you sell Chair? I can’t see us getting much more than 8m. It’s a good profit. If we invest wisely, we could be a better side for it in the long term. I’d much rather sell him than Willock or Dieng. Anyone else, we won’t get much.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 5, 2022 14:53:59 GMT
If our model is to develop and sell on at profit, why wouldn’t you sell Chair? I can’t see us getting much more than 8m. It’s a good profit. If we invest wisely, we could be a better side for it in the long term. I’d much rather sell him than Willock or Dieng. Anyone else, we won’t get much. exactly. despite chair's shortcomings i still think he's a top player at this level and would walk into most of the top 6 sides but he's 24 now so is close to his peak imo. sell him, reinvest most of the money on our problem areas and use the rest to help balance the books. if we were already a top side and not in need of money or new players then i'd say to keep him 100% but the reality is we're not and we could get better by selling him or at the very least be at the same level. |
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Post by Corbray on Aug 5, 2022 14:55:43 GMT
He'd be a prem player if he had a left foot. But he doesn't; that's why he's a QPR player. I know this has been asked before but no one has ever answered lol: Why doesn't Ilias Chair work on his weaker foot? This question ranks right up with the great Andre Gray QPR mystery. I would put up an argument against this stan if you don’t object. Having two feet makes him better but if he still plays In Wrong areas, hogs ball and does not know when release it then he’s still not prem standard. Prem is another level of expectations he's no eze thats for sure but has done a great job following in eze's footsteps. you could tell from 18-19 that eze was destined for the prem. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 5, 2022 15:31:23 GMT
He'd be a prem player if he had a left foot. But he doesn't; that's why he's a QPR player. I know this has been asked before but no one has ever answered lol: Why doesn't Ilias Chair work on his weaker foot? This question ranks right up with the great Andre Gray QPR mystery. I would put up an argument against this stan if you don’t object. Having two feet makes him better but if he still plays In Wrong areas, hogs ball and does not know when release it then he’s still not prem standard. Prem is another level of expectations Great points Wests. The one-footedness is his most obvious weakness making it the easiest for oppo to defend against, but those other areas I totally agree too. At 24 why has this not been coached into him yet if we can all see it? Lack of ambition on his own part perhaps and over-dependence on his natural ability to simply get by. |
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Post by sparks on Aug 5, 2022 15:39:49 GMT
I’m never going to deny that Chair predominately only uses one foot but I’m sure he does occasionally use his left,, didn’t he score recently with his left foot, maybe preseason or against Swansea?
Of our current squad how many are comfortable using both, maybe only Willock?
Would Chair hang on too long with the ball with better players around him, he appears to releases it quick enough when Willock is close by.
Being honest I would be surprised if anyone on here would’ve passed to Dykes when the ball fell kindly for him at Blackburn last week as he hit with his left foot swinger into the side netting.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 5, 2022 17:02:36 GMT
No the goal pre season at Wealdstone he should have used left but rolled it in with outside of his right
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 5, 2022 17:23:27 GMT
His biggest weakness is his inability to release the ball at the right time. All tricks and flicks and for me very overated.
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 5, 2022 18:31:23 GMT
His biggest weakness is his inability to release the ball at the right time. All tricks and flicks and for me very overated. Sort of thing that can be coached. Over to you MB, a player to develop. That’s the idea. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Aug 5, 2022 19:04:13 GMT
Last season we missed about 40 scoring opportunities because he never crossed the ball with his left foot.
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Post by sparks on Aug 5, 2022 20:12:27 GMT
No the goal pre season at Wealdstone he should have used left but rolled it in with outside of his right It was against Brum at home when it was raining heavily. Point I’m trying to make is Chair is no Willock but is the best of the rest. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 5, 2022 22:03:34 GMT
No the goal pre season at Wealdstone he should have used left but rolled it in with outside of his right It was against Brum at home when it was raining heavily. Point I’m trying to make is Chair is no Willock but is the best of the rest. But is he best of the rest? Goes missing when you need him to step up and just a show pony for me. Reminds me of Chery does the odd good thing but them you barely notice him. He is the one to punt on and the easiet to compensate for. |
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Post by sparks on Aug 5, 2022 22:10:21 GMT
9 goals last season is no mean feat for a MF player that goes missing, who is the best of the rest then if it’s not Chair.
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 5, 2022 22:23:31 GMT
Sparks one thing he is not is a midfielder he is a number 10 who should have done more in the team of last season. Willock had a purple patch when Chair was away and went downhill after he returned. At no stage last season did he play game in game out to the level that a top 6 number should. You could argue Amos actually influenced games more from nidfield considering the game time he had.
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Post by acricketer on Aug 5, 2022 22:40:36 GMT
He's a Luke Freeman type for me.Sell him and watch him sink.
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Post by sparks on Aug 5, 2022 22:41:08 GMT
Number 10 or MF no difference, neither play as striker in the penalty box.
Amos hasn’t got a trick or the ability to go past an opponent, he can make short accurate passes, he can run and press as well as anyone in the team, he can make ghost runs in the box, but no way is he a player that would regularly influence a game in the way Chair does.
I’m off to bed.
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 5, 2022 23:00:10 GMT
Number 10 or MF no difference, neither play as striker in the penalty box. Amos hasn’t got a trick or the ability to go past an opponent, he can make short accurate passes, he can run and press as well as anyone in the team, he can make ghost runs in the box, but no way is he a player that would regularly influence a game in the way Chair does. I’m off to bed. But Chair does not influence games. Had he had done after January we would have finished in the play offs. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 6, 2022 6:50:56 GMT
But Chair does not influence games. Had he had done after January we would have finished in the play offs. Bit harsh to lay all that on Chair. Don’t think anyone is claiming he is a young Ronaldo but he is a bloody good Championship player that all but a handful of other clubs in this division would love in their starting 11. I have really enjoyed watching his development from a youngster I rated who got odd games here and there to being one of our main players. That goal he scored from almost the left byline was one of the best from a Rangers player in many a season. He also comes across as being genuinely very committed to the club. I remember him being asked once if he would like to go and play with Eze in the Premier League and he replied: “how about Eze comes back to QPR and we play together in the Premier League here.” I like that. If you are going to look at players who didn’t turn up in the final few months of the season I would suggest you look at Hendrix, Dykes, Thomas, Johansen and Wallace among them. Sure there are things he certainly needs to develop - inc releasing the ball earlier. You can coach that but can you - for eg - coach Thomas to score goals? Chair is easy on the eye in how he plays the game but for a number 10 in my opinion does not do enough. Cannot take a set piece and just does not do enough when the chips are down. Very talented lad for sure and is the one if we can should be punted on especially if rated by PL.teams. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 6, 2022 7:56:07 GMT
Bit harsh to lay all that on Chair. Don’t think anyone is claiming he is a young Ronaldo but he is a bloody good Championship player that all but a handful of other clubs in this division would love in their starting 11. I have really enjoyed watching his development from a youngster I rated who got odd games here and there to being one of our main players. That goal he scored from almost the left byline was one of the best from a Rangers player in many a season. He also comes across as being genuinely very committed to the club. I remember him being asked once if he would like to go and play with Eze in the Premier League and he replied: “how about Eze comes back to QPR and we play together in the Premier League here.” I like that. If you are going to look at players who didn’t turn up in the final few months of the season I would suggest you look at Hendrix, Dykes, Thomas, Johansen and Wallace among them. Sure there are things he certainly needs to develop - inc releasing the ball earlier. You can coach that but can you - for eg - coach Thomas to score goals? Chair is easy on the eye in how he plays the game but for a number 10 in my opinion does not do enough. Cannot take a set piece and just does not do enough when the chips are down. Very talented lad for sure and is the one if we can should be punted on especially if rated by PL.teams. Take your point but Eze aside who have we developed in recent years who is as good? Bos possibly but if the criticism is Chair goes missing the same could be said of him. Other than that really struggling to think of anyone. If we have to sell him I’m behind that strategy. But let’s celebrate what our home grown players CAN do rather than criticise what they can’t do. Vast majority of players who we “develop” end up in non league and never heard of again. Think Chair will have a career at a very decent level. His height and lack of physicality make it questionable to me whether he could make a massive impression in the Premier League but I could see him in Serie A or La Liga - or a promotion winning Championship side. |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 6, 2022 12:06:20 GMT
Chair decebt player but well over hyped by the fans which we often do.
Compare his influence to Eze chalk and cheese
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 6, 2022 12:11:49 GMT
well over hyped by the fans which we often do. Presume you're referring to Twatter as I don't see much evidence of that on here? |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 6, 2022 12:13:11 GMT
All social media stan
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 6, 2022 12:15:56 GMT
I see. Explains a lot and the reason I steer well clear of it. |
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Post by acricketer on Aug 6, 2022 12:28:18 GMT
Chair decebt player but well over hyped by the fans which we often do. Compare his influence to Eze chalk and cheese Cheese was the best of the three |
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