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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 29, 2023 11:29:39 GMT
Fuck Tango and Cash
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 29, 2023 11:48:34 GMT
Fair point Alan, have you noticed Hall being so visible at first team matches with previous managers? Westy thinks I’ve got a love-in going with the fat bastard - I haven’t - but some of the things he said or alluded to ring true. Ok, he was ALWAYS going to jump if Gers came a’calling but before that there was something bugging him about our set up. Westy has posted elsewhere that the DOF and other seniors are the common denominator. I’ve thought that for ages. I’ve never worked anywhere that’s been successful with a committee poking its nose in. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 29, 2023 12:01:43 GMT
One thing I would say about the Bealshitter, he had the same squad - with injuries - at the top of the league. Something very wrong somewhere.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 29, 2023 12:14:58 GMT
One thing I would say about the Bealshitter, he had the same squad - with injuries - at the top of the league. Something very wrong somewhere. He had a fit and firing Willock and more importantly he had Johansen who has been missed more than any of us could have imagined |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 29, 2023 12:23:16 GMT
He was also getting a nice tune out of Iroegbunam who now looks like he can’t be arsed being here.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 29, 2023 12:25:13 GMT
Dunne suffering because of the team or team suffering partly down to Dunne’s drop in form (not alone) I’m not sure, but he will come again as we’ve seen it’s in there. Dickie won’t get any better because he lacks pace. 3 is a good call given the squad and our current full backs. Not much behind them though is there? dunne decent but not as good as he’s rated. Probably a 6/7 out of 10 |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 29, 2023 12:34:28 GMT
Fair point Alan, have you noticed Hall being so visible at first team matches with previous managers? Westy thinks I’ve got a love-in going with the fat bastard - I haven’t - but some of the things he said or alluded to ring true. Ok, he was ALWAYS going to jump if Gers came a’calling but before that there was something bugging him about our set up. Westy has posted elsewhere that the DOF and other seniors are the common denominator. I’ve thought that for ages. I’ve never worked anywhere that’s been successful with a committee poking its nose in. not worked in like 40 years as old cunt. You do have a lob on for him #fact mic beale this mic beale that 🤢 |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 29, 2023 12:34:51 GMT
He was also getting a nice tune out of Iroegbunam who now looks like he can’t be arsed being here. love you mic 💙 |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 29, 2023 13:13:00 GMT
The fact is that love him or loathe him, Beale was the only manager / coach we've had recently who made forward thinking tactical decisions. Like dropping Dykes. Like speeding up the out ball etc etc. He wasn't that good - our set pieces were still largely dross - but he was definitely a bit smarter than a few we've had...
As for his departure, I think there's a lot we don't know. Come to that there's a lot we don't know about his arrival either, ie escape clauses etc.
Good luck to Critchley but he looks lost already.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 29, 2023 13:23:57 GMT
The fact is that love him or loathe him, Beale was the only manager / coach we've had recently who made forward thinking tactical decisions. Like dropping Dykes. Like speeding up the out ball etc etc. He wasn't that good - our set pieces were still largely dross - but he was definitely a bit smarter than a few we've had... As for his departure, I think there's a lot we don't know. Come to that there's a lot we don't know about his arrival either, ie escape clauses etc. Good luck to Critchley but he looks lost already. Looks like he needs to win over the dressing room or, if not, build his own team in the summer. Seems like we're taking one step forward and two steps back... |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 29, 2023 13:24:24 GMT
Dead man walking
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Post by West Acton on Jan 29, 2023 13:39:17 GMT
The fact is that love him or loathe him, Beale was the only manager / coach we've had recently who made forward thinking tactical decisions. Like dropping Dykes. Like speeding up the out ball etc etc. He wasn't that good - our set pieces were still largely dross - but he was definitely a bit smarter than a few we've had... As for his departure, I think there's a lot we don't know. Come to that there's a lot we don't know about his arrival either, ie escape clauses etc. Good luck to Critchley but he looks lost already. did you attend Luton, Birmingham, Charlton or Coventry away? Absolutely no sign of forward thinking tactical awareness on show from the messiah. As bad performances as you will see away from home from any of our managers in recent times. Still stunned why so many are so eager to shower him with credit for a what a 16 game stint when there were as many bad games as good ones. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 29, 2023 13:55:07 GMT
The fact is that love him or loathe him, Beale was the only manager / coach we've had recently who made forward thinking tactical decisions. Like dropping Dykes. Like speeding up the out ball etc etc. He wasn't that good - our set pieces were still largely dross - but he was definitely a bit smarter than a few we've had... As for his departure, I think there's a lot we don't know. Come to that there's a lot we don't know about his arrival either, ie escape clauses etc. Good luck to Critchley but he looks lost already. did you attend Luton, Birmingham, Charlton or Coventry away? Absolutely no sign of forward thinking tactical awareness on show from the messiah. As bad performances as you will see away from home from any of our managers in recent times. Still stunned why so many are so eager to shower him with credit for a what a 16 game stint when there were as many bad games as good ones. Tbf I did point out that he wasn't that good.... It doesn't really matter who the manager is (pt.97) when there are so many other issues. Anyone who comes here will struggle. That is the context in which all our managers operate, and in that context he didn't do so badly. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 29, 2023 13:57:08 GMT
did you attend Luton, Birmingham, Charlton or Coventry away? Absolutely no sign of forward thinking tactical awareness on show from the messiah. As bad performances as you will see away from home from any of our managers in recent times. Still stunned why so many are so eager to shower him with credit for a what a 16 game stint when there were as many bad games as good ones. Tbf I did point out that he wasn't that good.... It doesn't really matter who the manager is (pt.97) when there are so many other issues. Anyone who comes here will struggle. That is the context in which all our managers operate, and in that context he didn't do so badly. agree with that response Hal. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 29, 2023 14:07:00 GMT
The fact is that love him or loathe him, Beale was the only manager / coach we've had recently who made forward thinking tactical decisions. Like dropping Dykes. Like speeding up the out ball etc etc. He wasn't that good - our set pieces were still largely dross - but he was definitely a bit smarter than a few we've had... As for his departure, I think there's a lot we don't know. Come to that there's a lot we don't know about his arrival either, ie escape clauses etc. Good luck to Critchley but he looks lost already. Looks like he needs to win over the dressing room or, if not, build his own team in the summer. Seems like we're taking one step forward and two steps back... How does a manager here build his own team when he’s not in control of recruitment? Fine having a DOF idea when you’re spending millions on proven players for the coach to work with but if you’re shopping in the bargain basement surely the manager has to bring in players he thinks he fit in or build around. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 29, 2023 14:28:53 GMT
Hence why they call them coach not manager.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 29, 2023 16:11:05 GMT
Looks like he needs to win over the dressing room or, if not, build his own team in the summer. Seems like we're taking one step forward and two steps back... How does a manager here build his own team when he’s not in control of recruitment? Fine having a DOF idea when you’re spending millions on proven players for the coach to work with but if you’re shopping in the bargain basement surely the manager has to bring in players he thinks he fit in or build around. Disagree - Balogoun was a manager signing, now mysteriously injured. Tim long name a Beale pet - now not interested. Signings need to be made on data not on manager recommendations - it’s how successful clubs do it. The problem is our director of football and back room team are clearly not v gd plus they have no budget to work with. Just appointing an old school manager - a kind of poor man’s Hughes or Redknapp - would be a massive step backwards imho |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 29, 2023 17:54:09 GMT
How does a manager here build his own team when he’s not in control of recruitment? Fine having a DOF idea when you’re spending millions on proven players for the coach to work with but if you’re shopping in the bargain basement surely the manager has to bring in players he thinks he fit in or build around. Disagree - Balogoun was a manager signing, now mysteriously injured. Tim long name a Beale pet - now not interested. Signings need to be made on data not on manager recommendations - it’s how successful clubs do it. The problem is our director of football and back room team are clearly not v gd plus they have no budget to work with. Just appointing an old school manager - a kind of poor man’s Hughes or Redknapp - would be a massive step backwards imho so we bring in players that MW and Beale didn’t play- great system - and I’d love to see the data on Dykes. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 29, 2023 22:32:59 GMT
And I’m not suggesting a dinosaur, just a proper manager in control of players.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 29, 2023 22:47:30 GMT
How does a manager here build his own team when he’s not in control of recruitment? Fine having a DOF idea when you’re spending millions on proven players for the coach to work with but if you’re shopping in the bargain basement surely the manager has to bring in players he thinks he fit in or build around. Disagree - Balogoun was a manager signing, now mysteriously injured. Tim long name a Beale pet - now not interested. Signings need to be made on data not on manager recommendations - it’s how successful clubs do it. The problem is our director of football and back room team are clearly not v gd plus they have no budget to work with. Just appointing an old school manager - a kind of poor man’s Hughes or Redknapp - would be a massive step backwards imho I saw yesterday on his instagram he put up a pic of a Glasgow Rangers player with the caption 'Welcome back' I thought back? You play for QPR you cunt. Probably me just still cranky but I get the impression he's not all in since the Eel went. |
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Post by acricketer on Jan 29, 2023 22:53:37 GMT
Can't see why people are digging out Critchley. He has inherited a crock of shit.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 29, 2023 23:03:12 GMT
Can't see why people are digging out Critchley. He has inherited a crock of shit. He has tbh. A team who's heads are completely dropped due to the fat moley cunt abandoning them after all his hot air. Unluckily for him It's gonna take something gargantuan to turn this around due to these main points: 1) We just don't score enough goals
2) We concede every single match
3) Our better players are under performing massively
4) We have no striker options
5) Injuries are piling up
Baically we're fucked  |
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Post by acricketer on Jan 29, 2023 23:52:44 GMT
A whole club ruined.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 30, 2023 1:55:50 GMT
Yet another season of mediocrity and shite. |
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Post by MattyRangers on Jan 30, 2023 7:26:20 GMT
Can't see why people are digging out Critchley. He has inherited a crock of shit. Agree. Big stinking pile of turd atm. Pathetic how the same players we know can perform are now so gutless. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 30, 2023 8:03:35 GMT
As much as I agree that Critchley has inherited a shit show, he needs to earn his wage and get these players playing for him now.
I think he probably needs a couple of his own signings in. Just something to add a bit of spark and some fresh ideas. Whether this is gonna be possible this window remains to be seen.
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Post by Shania on Jan 30, 2023 8:18:54 GMT
Only UNESCO can save us.
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Post by Corbray on Jan 30, 2023 9:06:32 GMT
As much as I agree that Critchley has inherited a shit show, he needs to earn his wage and get these players playing for him now. I think he probably needs a couple of his own signings in. Just something to add a bit of spark and some fresh ideas. Whether this is gonna be possible this window remains to be seen. thats my issue. you can give a new manager the benefit of doubt over a couple of games of absolute dross when he's first arrived as he's figuring the squad out but you have to ask questions if that same dross is still being served up 10 or so games in. the fact that we still look so uninspired and devoid of confidence lies with the manager, if he's not giving them a lift then he's not doing his job properly. rob edwards by camparison is doing a great job at stepping into nathan jones shoes at luton and you could argue that them losing a manager so integral to who they are is a bigger blow than us losing the eel. NC needs to change things up ASAP or he needs to go. there's no two ways about it as what we're seeing now is some of the worst stuff i've seen in years. at least on our previous poor runs of form under warbs the players still had some fight about them and were losing due to poor game management more than anything else. i've always been of the mind that we're never gunna be world beaters and i don't expect us to win every game but what i do expect is a bit of passion and fight for 90 minutes once or twice a week. i have no problem losing 3-0 to hull if we'd fought tooth and nail throughout the game but lost simply because hull were better or simply got lucky, it is what it is. but ffs NC has to work with what he has. we don't have a bad team on paper and there's an argument that our 4 AM's are 4 of the best players in the league on their day. switching to a 3 at the back should be NC's next step as dickie and dunne are an awful pairing. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 30, 2023 9:11:51 GMT
Can't see why people are digging out Critchley. He has inherited a crock of shit. Agree. Big stinking pile of turd atm. Pathetic how the same players we know can perform are now so gutless. Same this time last season these players have previous for downing tools. |
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 30, 2023 9:27:27 GMT
I think Critchely will come good and I like te fact he is calling out the players.
I imagine he will stick up for them once he get's committment from them, but you can see now that there isn't much coming.
So many average players, and then our back up isn't good enough. People complain or call for subs, but who do you bring on?!
Our bench usually has the injured Richards, old & slow Adomah, Dozzel, Kakay and Niko. Who comes on that changes things? Id ship all of those out for a start.
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