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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 7, 2023 22:04:20 GMT
He told them that it was unacceptable. It suggests some of the players don’t respect him Shania? Did they not respect warburton when they fell off a cliff after March? Or did they not respect Beale when they started losing games before he slithered off? I think it’s time we stopped looking at the manager and started looking at some of these fucking cowards in the squad. |
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Post by The General on Jan 7, 2023 22:12:26 GMT
It suggests some of the players don’t respect him Shania? Did they not respect warburton when they fell off a cliff after March? Or did they not respect Beale when they started losing games before he slithered off? I think it’s time we stopped looking at the manager and started looking at some of these fucking cowards in the squad. This so true it’s the players not the manager shopido go albert go hemoroid go dykes go dozzell go roberts go |
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Post by The General on Jan 7, 2023 22:13:31 GMT
It does actually sound like the players have no respect for the manager
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Post by sparks on Jan 7, 2023 22:25:11 GMT
It suggests some of the players don’t respect him Shania? Did they not respect warburton when they fell off a cliff after March? Or did they not respect Beale when they started losing games before he slithered off? I think it’s time we stopped looking at the manager and started looking at some of these fucking cowards in the squad. Agree players look to be totally unprofessional and cunts in their behaviour with all the managers but in Warburton having a poor relationship with Ramsey and Ferdinand and players knowing he’s leaving soon allows them initiative to underperform. Beale making it clear he was off also gave them leeway. Dont understand how Critchley and his staff cannot motivate players to train properly in a new tenure unless they are unhappy with methods of coaching. |
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 7, 2023 22:33:51 GMT
Did they not respect warburton when they fell off a cliff after March? Or did they not respect Beale when they started losing games before he slithered off? I think it’s time we stopped looking at the manager and started looking at some of these fucking cowards in the squad. Agree players look to be totally unprofessional and cunts in their behaviour with all the managers but in Warburton having a poor relationship with Ramsey and Ferdinand and players knowing he’s leaving soon allows them initiative to underperform. Beale making it clear he was off also gave them leeway. Dont understand how Critchley and his staff cannot motivate players to train properly in a new tenure unless they are unhappy with methods of coaching. Or there are wronguns in the squad who don’t want to do their jobs properly? Or aren’t focused as they are trying to get moves? Either way it’s critchs way or no way and if they don’t conform then move them on. He’s been given a 3.5 year deal time to trust the bloke to mould a squad then judge him. The calls for his head that I’ve seen are ridiculous |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 7, 2023 22:34:28 GMT
Did they not respect warburton when they fell off a cliff after March? Or did they not respect Beale when they started losing games before he slithered off? I think it’s time we stopped looking at the manager and started looking at some of these fucking cowards in the squad. Agree players look to be totally unprofessional and cunts in their behaviour with all the managers but in Warburton having a poor relationship with Ramsey and Ferdinand and players knowing he’s leaving soon allows them initiative to underperform. Beale making it clear he was off also gave them leeway. Dont understand how Critchley and his staff cannot motivate players to train properly in a new tenure unless they are unhappy with methods of coaching. Sparks, IMO it's way too early in his tenure to suggest that. He has to be given time. If he didn't recognise and speak out about the problems you describe then I would agree with you and be far more concerned about it. But crucially that is not the case and therefore gives me more cause for optimism about NC. It's very clear from his interviews that he has pinpointed where the problems lie and seems determined to address it. He is still getting to know his players too which we need to keep in mind, and that can only come with time spent with them on the training ground, not from afar or from watching videos or having conversations with advisors etc, before he joined the club. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 7, 2023 22:35:16 GMT
Did they not respect warburton when they fell off a cliff after March? Or did they not respect Beale when they started losing games before he slithered off? I think it’s time we stopped looking at the manager and started looking at some of these fucking cowards in the squad. Agree players look to be totally unprofessional and cunts in their behaviour with all the managers but in Warburton having a poor relationship with Ramsey and Ferdinand and players knowing he’s leaving soon allows them initiative to underperform. Beale making it clear he was off also gave them leeway. Dont understand how Critchley and his staff cannot motivate players to train properly in a new tenure unless they are unhappy with methods of coaching. No Sparks. These fuckers do not deserve the benefit of the doubt and if anything this manager should be given time by the fan base and the board and players should be dug out big time for their shit perfomances this past 18 months. |
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Post by sparks on Jan 7, 2023 22:40:36 GMT
Agree players look to be totally unprofessional and cunts in their behaviour with all the managers but in Warburton having a poor relationship with Ramsey and Ferdinand and players knowing he’s leaving soon allows them initiative to underperform. Beale making it clear he was off also gave them leeway. Dont understand how Critchley and his staff cannot motivate players to train properly in a new tenure unless they are unhappy with methods of coaching. Or there are wronguns in the squad who don’t want to do their jobs properly? Or aren’t focused as they are trying to get moves? Either way it’s critchs way or no way and if they don’t conform then move them on. He’s been given a 3.5 year deal time to trust the bloke to mould a squad then judge him. The calls for his head that I’ve seen are ridiculous I’m not calling for his head on a stick but he’s lost me in team selection and subs. |
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Post by Shania on Jan 7, 2023 22:40:58 GMT
He told them that it was unacceptable. It suggests some of the players don’t respect him Shania? Then they don`t respect the club and us fans is how I see it. Only my opinion though. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 7, 2023 22:42:45 GMT
It’s a job . Unless u support club u play for.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 7, 2023 22:44:25 GMT
Or there are wronguns in the squad who don’t want to do their jobs properly? Or aren’t focused as they are trying to get moves? Either way it’s critchs way or no way and if they don’t conform then move them on. He’s been given a 3.5 year deal time to trust the bloke to mould a squad then judge him. The calls for his head that I’ve seen are ridiculous I’m not calling for his head on a stick but he’s lost me in team selection and subs. Sparks. But look at the squad he has been left with. His centre forward has one goal in eleven games. What other forward does he have Armstrong aside to replace Dykes with? |
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Post by sparks on Jan 7, 2023 22:45:12 GMT
Agree players look to be totally unprofessional and cunts in their behaviour with all the managers but in Warburton having a poor relationship with Ramsey and Ferdinand and players knowing he’s leaving soon allows them initiative to underperform. Beale making it clear he was off also gave them leeway. Dont understand how Critchley and his staff cannot motivate players to train properly in a new tenure unless they are unhappy with methods of coaching. No Sparks. These fuckers do not deserve the benefit of the doubt and if anything this manager should be given time by the fan base and the board and players should be dug out big time for their shit perfomances this past 18 months. Very easy to spot and root out bad apples 73, if they were playing today as seems likely why were they allowed to travel? |
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Post by sparks on Jan 7, 2023 22:46:52 GMT
Agree players look to be totally unprofessional and cunts in their behaviour with all the managers but in Warburton having a poor relationship with Ramsey and Ferdinand and players knowing he’s leaving soon allows them initiative to underperform. Beale making it clear he was off also gave them leeway. Dont understand how Critchley and his staff cannot motivate players to train properly in a new tenure unless they are unhappy with methods of coaching. Sparks, IMO it's way too early in his tenure to suggest that. He has to be given time. If he didn't recognise and speak out about the problems you describe then I would agree with you and be far more concerned about it. But crucially that is not the case and therefore gives me more cause for optimism about NC. It's very clear from his interviews that he has pinpointed where the problems lie and seems determined to address it. He is still getting to know his players too which we need to keep in mind, and that can only come with time spent with them on the training ground, not from afar or from watching videos or having conversations with advisors etc, before he joined the club. Of course I realise that Stan, don’t mean to say I can’t say I’m not impressed with team selection subs and his door mouse personality. |
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Post by Shania on Jan 7, 2023 22:51:30 GMT
Or there are wronguns in the squad who don’t want to do their jobs properly? Or aren’t focused as they are trying to get moves? Either way it’s critchs way or no way and if they don’t conform then move them on. He’s been given a 3.5 year deal time to trust the bloke to mould a squad then judge him. The calls for his head that I’ve seen are ridiculous I’m not calling for his head on a stick but he’s lost me in team selection and subs. A gaffer`s team selections can depend on so many factors that we can`t really comprehend or understand. Up till now, I think he`s been trying to be very pedagogical and/or openminded in his approch. As a result of this each member of the squad has now pretty much got their chance in various positions and formations. However, It has obviously not worked out for some, and those players will either, this window or the next, be told to leave. It`s really is this simple imo. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 7, 2023 22:52:44 GMT
No Sparks. These fuckers do not deserve the benefit of the doubt and if anything this manager should be given time by the fan base and the board and players should be dug out big time for their shit perfomances this past 18 months. Very easy to spot and root out bad apples 73, if they were playing today as seems likely why were they allowed to travel? But those bad apples have be rotting the club away over the years and all have been kept on or signed by Ferdinand. Critchley worked under Klopp and was good enough to take charge of a first team game when Liverpool were in the World Club championship. He is half decent but he been given Dykes and no one else as Bonne has been paid off. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 7, 2023 22:58:12 GMT
Sparks, IMO it's way too early in his tenure to suggest that. He has to be given time. If he didn't recognise and speak out about the problems you describe then I would agree with you and be far more concerned about it. But crucially that is not the case and therefore gives me more cause for optimism about NC. It's very clear from his interviews that he has pinpointed where the problems lie and seems determined to address it. He is still getting to know his players too which we need to keep in mind, and that can only come with time spent with them on the training ground, not from afar or from watching videos or having conversations with advisors etc, before he joined the club. Of course I realise that Stan, don’t mean to say I can’t say I’m not impressed with team selection subs and his door mouse personality. Of course you have every right to question team selection Sparks. I'd never have picked his sides either. But for now I'm just giving benefit of the doubt until he's fully assessed the squad. Re his personality, yes he's softly spoken but wouldn't describe him as a door mouse. May be wrong but early impressions are he's quietly confident with a steely determination. |
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Post by Shania on Jan 7, 2023 23:02:03 GMT
"bad apples" can also be a fraction of players.Imo.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 8, 2023 0:41:13 GMT
Sparks, IMO it's way too early in his tenure to suggest that. He has to be given time. If he didn't recognise and speak out about the problems you describe then I would agree with you and be far more concerned about it. But crucially that is not the case and therefore gives me more cause for optimism about NC. It's very clear from his interviews that he has pinpointed where the problems lie and seems determined to address it. He is still getting to know his players too which we need to keep in mind, and that can only come with time spent with them on the training ground, not from afar or from watching videos or having conversations with advisors etc, before he joined the club. Of course I realise that Stan, don’t mean to say I can’t say I’m not impressed with team selection subs and his door mouse personality. Me neither so far Sparks but, as I posted after his interview, let’s see what he and/or the club actually DO about the issues he’s highlighted. That will tell us what the future will look like. Starting Reading. Make a point. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 8, 2023 7:02:10 GMT
Of course I realise that Stan, don’t mean to say I can’t say I’m not impressed with team selection subs and his door mouse personality. Me neither so far Sparks but, as I posted after his interview, let’s see what he and/or the club actually DO about the issues he’s highlighted. That will tell us what the future will look like. Starting Reading. Make a point. The club have supposedly started by thinking of giving Dykes a new deal. Sack Chritchley or not the bottom line is Dykes has missed open goals under all three managers. |
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 8, 2023 7:25:45 GMT
Of course I realise that Stan, don’t mean to say I can’t say I’m not impressed with team selection subs and his door mouse personality. Of course you have every right to question team selection Sparks. I'd never have picked his sides either. But for now I'm just giving benefit of the doubt until he's fully assessed the squad. Re his personality, yes he's softly spoken but wouldn't describe him as a door mouse. May be wrong but early impressions are he's quietly confident with a steely determination. Agree with you. Feel like some are judging by his voice as opposed to what he says. Impressed by his interview after the game. Clearly passed off and not trying to protect his players as such. Says what we all think. Inconsistent and we never got going. Not sure how people have qualms with that. A bit gutted we didn't try any youngsters or give others a run (Richards, Armstrong for 2). As others have said though, he's still learning this squad. No pressure season or anything and came to a team on poor form. Plus fans aren't happy from the off and it's a hard job he's got. But he has done well before and coached good players so hopefully we can shift a couple of average/shit players and get some in. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 8, 2023 7:26:59 GMT
Sparks did you not see chairs final games under beale or are you trying to convince yourself everything was well. The team had fallen off a cliff under him this has not suddenly all changed under new manager. We got schooled by Luton under Beale and it kept going south Here’s a better answer to your question about him having a weak personality. www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/football-wls-critchley-so-angry-as-he-slates-qpr-players-after-cup-exitIf this is true please tell me why he allowed the players to get away without training properly? my question on personality?? Dont recall asking any question. You’ve lost me. |
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Post by sparks on Jan 8, 2023 8:47:41 GMT
my question on personality?? Dont recall asking any question. You’ve lost me. Yeah it was a badly worded post trying to explain why Im questioning Critchley managerial ability. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2023 9:33:31 GMT
cant argue against that or disagree reference beale strange thing was when everything was going well under him i kind of knew that anyway but couldnt quite put my finger on what was the problem i was thinking it was just the wart on his face that didnt bode well with me he surprised me when he turned the Wolves job down and thought i was mistaken he wasnt a cunt after all then.... HEY PRESTO WHACK ME UP A SALAD and there you have it Fat Warty Cunt and Chips with a nice side Salad hate him more than Chelsea |
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 8, 2023 10:16:59 GMT
The Fleetwood performance reeked of complacency, entitlement and laziness.
Critchley’s declared war on the team with his comments.Will be interesting to see how players react.
Some are going to get dropped or shipped out. Hopefully most will take his comments on board and man up.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 8, 2023 10:27:05 GMT
The Fleetwood performance reeked of complacency, entitlement and laziness. Critchley’s declared war on the team with his comments.Will be interesting to see how players react. Some are going to get dropped or shipped out. Hopefully most will take his comments on board and man up. Why would these fuckers man up? Baring a few it is the squad that downed tools on Warburton and who under fatboy were doing exactly the same thing. I back the manager all the way as they will do the same to the next bloke. |
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 8, 2023 11:08:37 GMT
We have a lot of players who are average at best, and look good sometimes.
Top teams have players who are good but amazing sometimes.
If our team aren't at their best then we are mediocre.
Dozzell, Thomas, Shodipo, Nico all need to go, plus more.
Dunne and Dickie need to sort their form out as they look out of their depth also.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 8, 2023 11:15:47 GMT
I feel sorry for Neil Critchley.
He's walked into a fucking mess of a club.
Just imagine Birmingham away we were singing 'we're Queens Park Rangers we're top of the league'
What an embarrassing capitulation
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 8, 2023 11:33:06 GMT
I feel sorry for Neil Critchley. He's walked into a fucking mess of a club. Just imagine Birmingham away we were singing 'we're Queens Park Rangers we're top of the league' What an embarrassing capitulation And at Brum there was a big banner with a mole on it and the words ‘Loyalty will never be forgotten’. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 8, 2023 11:46:14 GMT
I feel sorry for Neil Critchley. He's walked into a fucking mess of a club. Just imagine Birmingham away we were singing 'we're Queens Park Rangers we're top of the league' What an embarrassing capitulation And at Brum there was a big banner with a mole on it and the words ‘Loyalty will never be forgotten’. The irony!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2023 11:47:23 GMT
I feel sorry for Neil Critchley. He's walked into a fucking mess of a club. Just imagine Birmingham away we were singing 'we're Queens Park Rangers we're top of the league' What an embarrassing capitulation you say its a mess but its easily fixable what MW created was easy fixed unfortunatley for us Beale made some strange signings all this squad is missing is 2 strikers that know where the back of the net is think a mess of a club is slightly exaggerating |
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