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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 1, 2023 13:51:38 GMT
Please, and I mean this for your own mental health, get a grip fellas!
As far as I know you are all grown men (and the odd woman, and for all I know maybe the odd one who prevaricates between the two) - all adults.
But reading some of the comments last night I had to log off. Some sounded like they were throwing a tantrum because Father Christmas had not delivered the train set they wanted. Or its like their wife had just walked out for the poster's best friend - some were that angry.
I have (schmaltzy comment alert) grown fond of all the characters on here, even when we disagree. We are all Rangers and there are plenty of great personalities (even GT). Many of them I have been chatting to for years going back to the old forum and I feel like I know many of you lot. And well done to Stanley and Brighton for finding a new home for us after the old site became impossible. But honestly, is it any wonder that the new fan who posted the other week hasn't been heard much of since? Just read some of those comments back imagining you were a prospective fan - would this seem like a fun thing to be a part of?
To repeat a very obvious point I have made on a number of occasions:
THERE IS NO MONEY.
SO WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?
The club have made that clear on many occasions. It might be due to FFP. It might be because, £400m later or whatever it is, the owners have decided it is about time it was run like a business - which means spend can't exceed revenue by any more than the million a month it is already running at. Either way, THE CLUB HAS NO MONEY FOR TRANSFERS UNLESS IT SELLS SOMEONE.
That has long been the club's position and has been explained many times. Why do some fans conveniently forget this or wish it away? Why do they think we brought in Neil Critchley rather than some other Neil like Warnock? Its to develop the players we have, because we don't have a pot to piss in.
Supporting a football club is meant to be a hobby - ie fun. But I struggle to understand how any fan can enjoy just repeating how angry they are with the club they love? I get you are frustrated. We all are.
Tony has a lot to answer for because he has spawned a generation of Rangers fans who mistake Transfer Deadline Day for Christmas Day. Lots of clubs didn't get anyone. I think back to all those transfers when we celebrated the arrival of players like Jordan Mutch for £6m. Where is he now? For some fans (of other clubs too) obsession with transfer activity has overtaken interest in the actual football. Matches are almost an inconvenience to be got out of the way. Hunger for transfers is like taking crack cocaine, getting a momentary high ("just announce him already" - cue virtual foot stamp), then six months later complaining that this bang average player is useless: "what idiot signed this cunt?" etc.
There is plenty that looks wrong about the way the club is run - I too don't understand how Les remains in post, and think we need a director of recruitment in his place who is running data on lower league players and treats it like a science. But sacking Les even if he weren't replaced would probably provide the wages for a free transfer striker for six months. Its not a game changer in terms of money saved.
If you are honestly this unhappy about transfer deadline day then (and I say this regretfully, not because I want to lose fans) you should really think if supporting QPR is still working for you. Because if your expectation and demand is that every transfer window we spend a transfer fee then you are going to be very, very disappointed. We probably won't be able to next Jan transfer window either unless someone buys one of our "assets". This is the economic reality of modern QPR. If the upset that causes you is more than your love of QPR then you might honestly be better off supporting Chelsea or taking up golf, alcoholism, or dogging. Or maybe just shopping.
Those who complain are just venting - they aren't offering any solution to the financial fix the club finds itself in.
I know I will probably get some angry responses and people will say I'm defending the board, and they are evil etc. But I am honestly saying this for well-meaning reasons to fellow fans I like. I also struggle with it at the moment, that I admit. But endlessly moaning about it is only going to get you down, it doesn't change anything. Unless someone knows a billionaire who wants to blow his fortune (and possibly FFP rules) then this is the new reality of transfer deadline day. For what its worth this transfer window is actually an improvement on the last IMHO (we got Lowe, who is a sort-of-striker, who could be good). Last year we did get a Jan transfer deadline signing - Jeff Hendricks. How did that work out for you fellas?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 1, 2023 14:05:00 GMT
You lost me after my initials
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 1, 2023 14:06:02 GMT
You have just destroyed the idea of a message board and replaced it with a public forum for sycophancy. 😂
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 1, 2023 14:06:04 GMT
I want general to counter with a angry statement, just for balance
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Post by Bill on Feb 1, 2023 14:16:22 GMT
Please, and I mean this for your own mental health, get a grip fellas! As far as I know you are all grown men (and the odd woman, and for all I know maybe the odd one who prevaricates between the two) - all adults. But reading some of the comments last night I had to log off. Some sounded like they were throwing a tantrum because Father Christmas had not delivered the train set they wanted. Or its like their wife had just walked out for the poster's best friend - some were that angry. I have (schmaltzy comment alert) grown fond of all the characters on here, even when we disagree. We are all Rangers and there are plenty of great personalities (even GT). Many of them I have been chatting to for years going back to the old forum and I feel like I know many of you lot. And well done to Stanley and Brighton for finding a new home for us after the old site became impossible. But honestly, is it any wonder that the new fan who posted the other week hasn't been heard much of since? Just read some of those comments back imagining you were a prospective fan - would this seem like a fun thing to be a part of? To repeat a very obvious point I have made on a number of occasions: THERE IS NO MONEY. SO WHAT DID YOU EXPECT? The club have made that clear on many occasions. It might be due to FFP. It might be because, £400m later or whatever it is, the owners have decided it is about time it was run like a business - which means spend can't exceed revenue by any more than the million a month it is already running at. Either way, THE CLUB HAS NO MONEY FOR TRANSFERS UNLESS IT SELLS SOMEONE. That has long been the club's position and has been explained many times. Why do some fans conveniently forget this or wish it away? Why do they think we brought in Neil Critchley rather than some other Neil like Warnock? Its to develop the players we have, because we don't have a pot to piss in. Supporting a football club is meant to be a hobby - ie fun. But I struggle to understand how any fan can enjoy just repeating how angry they are with the club they love? I get you are frustrated. We all are. Tony has a lot to answer for because he has spawned a generation of Rangers fans who mistake Transfer Deadline Day for Christmas Day. Lots of clubs didn't get anyone. I think back to all those transfers when we celebrated the arrival of players like Jordan Mutch for £6m. Where is he now? For some fans (of other clubs too) obsession with transfer activity has overtaken interest in the actual football. Matches are almost an inconvenience to be got out of the way. Hunger for transfers is like taking crack cocaine, getting a momentary high ("just announce him already" - cue virtual foot stamp), then six months later complaining that this bang average player is useless: "what idiot signed this cunt?" etc. There is plenty that looks wrong about the way the club is run - I too don't understand how Les remains in post, and think we need a director of recruitment in his place who is running data on lower league players and treats it like a science. But sacking Les even if he weren't replaced would probably provide the wages for a free transfer striker for six months. Its not a game changer in terms of money saved. If you are honestly this unhappy about transfer deadline day then (and I say this regretfully, not because I want to lose fans) you should really think if supporting QPR is still working for you. Because if your expectation and demand is that every transfer window we spend a transfer fee then you are going to be very, very disappointed. We probably won't be able to next Jan transfer window either unless someone buys one of our "assets". This is the economic reality of modern QPR. If the upset that causes you is more than your love of QPR then you might honestly be better off supporting Chelsea or taking up golf, alcoholism, or dogging. Or maybe just shopping. Those who complain are just venting - they aren't offering any solution to the financial fix the club finds itself in. I know I will probably get some angry responses and people will say I'm defending the board, and they are evil etc. But I am honestly saying this for well-meaning reasons to fellow fans I like. I also struggle with it at the moment, that I admit. But endlessly moaning about it is only going to get you down, it doesn't change anything. Unless someone knows a billionaire who wants to blow his fortune (and possibly FFP rules) then this is the new reality of transfer deadline day. For what its worth this transfer window is actually an improvement on the last IMHO (we got Lowe, who is a sort-of-striker, who could be good). Last year we did get a Jan transfer deadline signing - Jeff Hendricks. How did that work out for you fellas? Is administration a possibility?Is the club being set up for a sale?They are just custodians of our club and the communication is deafening!!!!!!! What is their plan if they have one? |
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Post by Bill on Feb 1, 2023 14:21:12 GMT
How is Lyndon Dykes still in hospital,getting better again the comms are deafening.
Given we now have Lowe a loanee,Dykes in hospital and Armstrong with limited experience are we just throwing the towel in because thats how it looks to me.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 1, 2023 14:21:27 GMT
It is quite amusing to read the same posters now suggesting we could go down, as happens every season generally by the same people. We’re a few draws away from what’s generally required to stay up so can we at least put that one to bed for now ffs.
This season is a write off so it’s not inconceivable the board are going to wait until the summer before making any effort to strengthen.
Who knows, I certainly don’t but I agree Stainrod, some need to get a grip for their own sanity.
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Post by Bill on Feb 1, 2023 14:23:09 GMT
None so blind who cant see,
Administration 10 point deduction and out of interest where do you see our next points coming from?
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Post by The General on Feb 1, 2023 14:30:25 GMT
The club is being run very badly at the moment.
We have no current No 9 and team first team full of loan signings
We are in a worse position than 8 years ago
There are other potential owners that would run the club better
Why should we be so grateful to just exist fuck that its bollox
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 1, 2023 14:33:24 GMT
The club is being run very badly at the moment. We have no current No 9 and team first team full of loan signings We are in a worse position than 8 years ago There are other potential owners that would run the club better Why should we be so grateful to just exist fuck that its bollox id like a bit more depth and anger in your statement |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 1, 2023 14:37:38 GMT
The club is being run very badly at the moment. We have no current No 9 and team first team full of loan signings We are in a worse position than 8 years ago There are other potential owners that would run the club better Why should we be so grateful to just exist fuck that its bollox Who are the potential other owners? |
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Post by The General on Feb 1, 2023 14:42:32 GMT
The club is being run like a fucking shit storm
Fuck the cunts out and get some new ones in
Stop using the club as a fucking advertising media advert
fuck being grateful for a club that is as successful as a one legged man in a long jump competition
Luton (cunts) / Brentford (cunts) Watford (cunts) all better than us how can that be good
Everyone was is laughing at us we basically do not exist hardly any more in football because of these wankers
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 1, 2023 14:43:44 GMT
None so blind who cant see, Administration 10 point deduction and out of interest where do you see our next points coming from? So no points for us between now and May then, really? |
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Post by The General on Feb 1, 2023 14:45:07 GMT
That is a crazy question
There would be many owners that would like to buy Qpr
I am not personally digging you out as you have your own views
But why should we be so grateful to people that have basically destroyed the club its a bit rich Stains
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 1, 2023 14:45:40 GMT
You have just destroyed the idea of a message board and replaced it with a public forum for sycophancy. 😂 Am not a sycophant for the board, I promise you Alan. Think they have royally fucked us and probably themselves. All I'm saying is given where we now are, what is the solution. I keep hearing new owners but whenever I ask who these new owners are, it goes silent. Its ironic the board are getting far more stick now when they have learned a lot of lessons and are actually running the club a bit better now (still things they could improve for sure). When they were screwing up loads of fans were very sycophantic though - because they loved all the signings! I'm fine for people moaning on a message board if it gets them through the night - just so long as they understand they aren't actually imparting any useful advice on how to improve the situation. A lot of it is just like complaining about the government because its raining. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 1, 2023 14:45:55 GMT
The club is being run like a fucking shit storm Fuck the cunts out and get some new ones in Stop using the club as a fucking advertising media advert fuck being grateful for a club that is as successful as a one legged man in a long jump competition Luton (cunts) / Brentford (cunts) Watford (cunts) all better than us how can that be good Everyone was is laughing at us we basically do not exist hardly any more in football because of these wankers lot better |
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Post by Bill on Feb 1, 2023 14:46:32 GMT
None so blind who cant see, Administration 10 point deduction and out of interest where do you see our next points coming from? So no points for us between now and May then, really? Where they coming from then out of interest ? |
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Post by The General on Feb 1, 2023 14:47:09 GMT
How do we play with no actual No 9
Why has this happened its just bizarre
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 1, 2023 14:47:14 GMT
You have just destroyed the idea of a message board and replaced it with a public forum for sycophancy. 😂 Am not a sycophant for the board, I promise you Alan. Think they have royally fucked us and probably themselves. All I'm saying is given where we now are, what is the solution. I keep hearing new owners but whenever I ask who these new owners are, it goes silent. Its ironic the board are getting far more stick now when they have learned a lot of lessons and are actually running the club a bit better now (still things they could improve for sure). When they were screwing up loads of fans were very sycophantic though - because they loved all the signings! I'm fine for people moaning on a message board if it gets them through the night - just so long as they understand they aren't actually imparting any useful advice on how to improve the situation. A lot of it is just like complaining about the government because its raining. No it dry windy , no rain |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 1, 2023 14:48:02 GMT
None so blind who cant see, Administration 10 point deduction and out of interest where do you see our next points coming from? Administration is exactly where we would be with another FFP fine - you might not like the board, but its them that is keeping us out of administration. |
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Post by acricketer on Feb 1, 2023 14:48:25 GMT
Did someone say 'train set'!!?
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 1, 2023 14:50:57 GMT
That is a crazy question There would be many owners that would like to buy Qpr I am not personally digging you out as you have your own views But why should we be so grateful to people that have basically destroyed the club its a bit rich Stains Am not asking you to be grateful to them General, I have made clear they have made loads of mistakes. There is no promised land for us for the next few years. All I am saying is it would be even worse if they fucked off. If there are so many owners who would love to buy us, why haven't they stepped forward. A club the size of Newcastle has just been bought. Spurs might come up for sale next - for really rich owners there are still much bigger fish out there than us. Even Sunderland - grim part of the world but that has a lot of potential. Lot of limitations with QPR as discussed at length. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 1, 2023 14:52:04 GMT
The club is being run like a fucking shit storm Fuck the cunts out and get some new ones in Stop using the club as a fucking advertising media advert fuck being grateful for a club that is as successful as a one legged man in a long jump competition Luton (cunts) / Brentford (cunts) Watford (cunts) all better than us how can that be good Everyone was is laughing at us we basically do not exist hardly any more in football because of these wankers Feel better now mate? |
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Post by Bill on Feb 1, 2023 14:53:22 GMT
You have just destroyed the idea of a message board and replaced it with a public forum for sycophancy. 😂 Am not a sycophant for the board, I promise you Alan. Think they have royally fucked us and probably themselves. All I'm saying is given where we now are, what is the solution. I keep hearing new owners but whenever I ask who these new owners are, it goes silent. Its ironic the board are getting far more stick now when they have learned a lot of lessons and are actually running the club a bit better now (still things they could improve for sure). When they were screwing up loads of fans were very sycophantic though - because they loved all the signings! I'm fine for people moaning on a message board if it gets them through the night - just so long as they understand they aren't actually imparting any useful advice on how to improve the situation. A lot of it is just like complaining about the government because its raining. Put the club up for sale and see who comes forward. No naming rights revenue form the stadium. For me following rangers for over sixty years is not a hobby its a way of life.Zero comms is unforgiveable and tells me they dont give a shit. |
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Post by Bill on Feb 1, 2023 14:58:14 GMT
None so blind who cant see, Administration 10 point deduction and out of interest where do you see our next points coming from? Administration is exactly where we would be with another FFP fine - you might not like the board, but its them that is keeping us out of administration. How long for. So when they say we cant pay the players admin beckons,its not just FFP. That could happen tomorrow. That is why i want them out as they will not continue to bail us out and could pull the plug anytime. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 1, 2023 15:00:35 GMT
So no points for us between now and May then, really? Where they coming from then out of interest ? Give over Bill. Predicting which teams take points off each other is impossible in this league and has been for years. Let’s revisit this thread end of season and see where we are. I really don’t think I’ll be the one eating my words. |
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Post by Bill on Feb 1, 2023 15:10:58 GMT
Where they coming from then out of interest ? Give over Bill. Predicting which teams take points off each other is impossible in this league and has been for years. Let’s revisit this thread end of season and see where we are. I really don’t think I’ll be the one eating my words. You seem very sure but going on current form just try and tell me or you just avoiding the question. You seem very sure that certain players are going to suddenly roll up their sleeves and play but with no real pressure on them for their places good luck with that. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 1, 2023 15:12:04 GMT
Day 2
No one could of seen the disaster that day.
Would we survive,no help is coming,it was time to stand up and be counted. The discussion went on long into the night and following day but no agreement was reached.
Day 3
Will we still be here for day 3. Tune in next week sky Atlantic to find out.
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Post by Bill on Feb 1, 2023 15:14:14 GMT
Day 2 No one could of seen the disaster that day. Would we survive,no help is coming,it was time to stand up and be counted. The discussion went on long into the night and following day but no agreement was reached. Day 3 Will we still be here for day 3. Tune in next week sky Atlantic to find out. Day 4 the shit hits the fan |
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Post by The General on Feb 1, 2023 15:15:32 GMT
Think everyone is just so bored of not going forward and bad appointments and decisions going on for over 8 years
And also seeing all the teams that used to look up at us looking down at us like a mid table championship team
Which is what we are now and probably always be.
It is a pride thing we cant just stay still for another 8 years that is not progress.
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