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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 8:34:07 GMT
One name that hasn't been mention who may well be in the running is Chris Ramsey.
Not saying I'd want it by the way, simply that it wouldn't surprise me if our board were considering re-appointing him.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 8:46:30 GMT
How about Kenny Jacket & Steve Gallen? Good shout especially if Portsmouth don't get promoted. Yeah, those 2 would be a great shout in my opinion. |
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Post by West Acton on Apr 2, 2019 9:03:17 GMT
I would not look at Ramsey and if I was him I would not even allow myself to consider it
Barton and Hill could work as would Jacket and Gallen
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Post by James1979 on Apr 2, 2019 9:10:01 GMT
I don’t want any of these ex qpr players to be honest.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 9:12:38 GMT
I would not look at Ramsey and if I was him I would not even allow myself to consider it Barton and Hill could work as would Jacket and Gallen I wouldn't be too happy with Ramsey, but it's exactly the sort of lazy appointment that we have previous for. I'd love Clint Hill involved in some way, but I wouldn't touch Barton with a barge pole myself. Dave Mac is 100% convinced it's Sherwood. Whilst he hasn't got a perfect record, he has been absolutely bang on with the last 2 managerial appointments, well ahead of the mainstream press. |
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Post by West Acton on Apr 2, 2019 9:28:55 GMT
If Sherwood got the job it will be the fourth time we have appointed him as they always say he’s the man because of Les. I don’t think owners are stupid enough to go down that route
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 9:38:06 GMT
If Sherwood got the job it will be the fourth time we have appointed him as they always say he’s the man because of Les. I don’t think owners are stupid enough to go down that route Dave's thinking is that the last 2 appointments have been down to Tony pulling rank and going against Les' advice. He thinks that this time Les will get his way and be allowed to appoint his mate. Not saying it's a good idea, but I do see the logic behind why Dave believes Sherwood will get the nod. For me it's Ainsworth or Jackett. We need a manager used to operating under major financial constraints. No point in continuing to go for managers like McClaren, Sherwood etc. These guys are accustomed to having money to spend. We aren't that club anymore! |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 2, 2019 10:00:08 GMT
Dave's thinking is that the last 2 appointments have been down to Tony pulling rank and going against Les' advice. He thinks that this time Les will get his way and be allowed to appoint his mate. Not saying it's a good idea, but I do see the logic behind why Dave believes Sherwood will get the nod. That doesn't account for the fact that TF is no longer Chairman. That's Amit now, who will surely have a big say in it. Last manager he appointed in that role was Warnock, which didn't work out too badly. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 10:12:12 GMT
Dave's thinking is that the last 2 appointments have been down to Tony pulling rank and going against Les' advice. He thinks that this time Les will get his way and be allowed to appoint his mate. Not saying it's a good idea, but I do see the logic behind why Dave believes Sherwood will get the nod. That doesn't account for the fact that TF is no longer Chairman. That's Amit now, who will surely have a big say in it. Last manager he appointed in that role was Warnock, which didn't work out too badly. Do you think Amit is really calling the shots mate? All that was just smoke and mirrors I think. Tony is still in charge as far as I can tell. |
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Post by West Acton on Apr 2, 2019 10:12:15 GMT
Who is the next Warnock out there?
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Post by hubble on Apr 2, 2019 10:26:54 GMT
If Sherwood got the job it will be the fourth time we have appointed him as they always say he’s the man because of Les. I don’t think owners are stupid enough to go down that route Dave's thinking is that the last 2 appointments have been down to Tony pulling rank and going against Les' advice. He thinks that this time Les will get his way and be allowed to appoint his mate. Not saying it's a good idea, but I do see the logic behind why Dave believes Sherwood will get the nod. For me it's Ainsworth or Jackett. We need a manager used to operating under major financial constraints. No point in continuing to go for managers like McClaren, Sherwood etc. These guys are accustomed to having money to spend. We aren't that club anymore! I completely agree, your last point is key: all those other names, Sherwood, Gerard (really??) etc. there's no way they'll be up for and/or any good at working with a small budget. We need a smart, efficient, preferably younger manager with little or no baggage and a willingness to roll up his (or her) sleeves and get on with it. Ainsworth is a decent option for me, also, maybe more so, Jackett (I accept he's not young). |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 2, 2019 10:45:27 GMT
Do you think Amit is really calling the shots mate? All that was just smoke and mirrors I think. Tony is still in charge as far as I can tell. Perhaps so, as for Bhatia to be Chairman with Mittal only having an 11% stake in the club does seem odd. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 10:55:08 GMT
Do you think Amit is really calling the shots mate? All that was just smoke and mirrors I think. Tony is still in charge as far as I can tell. Perhaps so, as for Bhatia to be Chairman with Mittal only having an 11% stake in the club does seem odd. I'd love a situation where the Malaysian lot were shown the door (taking Les with them), leaving Amit properly in charge. But I don't think there is any way that the Mittals would stump up the required cash to unseat this lot. They'd rather hold on to the club in the hope this new stadium comes off and they can make some sort of a success out their time here. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 10:58:11 GMT
Fernandes has put Bhatia as Chairman to appease the fans who remember how he operated under Flavio. Fernandes and always has been the problem at the club and his mismanagement and dreadful appointments means we are in this mess for a long period of time.
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Post by DiscoDroid on Apr 2, 2019 11:42:42 GMT
I Note that we are being linked with Lee Bowyer at Charlton this Morning...
I'm all for it if only for the Reacton on loft for words. The rage mass on there will be greater than the Quark–gluon plasma baryonic matter of a black hole.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 11:48:52 GMT
I Note that we are being linked with Lee Bowyer at Charlton this Morning. I'm all for it if only for the Reacton on loft for words. The rage mass will be greater than the Quark–gluon plasma baryonic matter of a black hole. He's doing a good job with no money. Bowyer really is doing a great job at Charlton. He is literally the polar opposite of a "Rooney Rule" manager though isn't he? That said, I'm a firm believer in in people being given second chances in life. He shouldn't be judged in his 40's for his behaviour in his 20's. |
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Post by lymehoop on Apr 2, 2019 12:03:20 GMT
hope rumours Sherwood is in the frame are bollox, that would really prove Les is looking after his mates
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Post by James1979 on Apr 2, 2019 12:08:01 GMT
Win record is 50%, club with no money.....could work
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Post by hubble on Apr 2, 2019 12:13:59 GMT
I completely agree, your last point is key: all those other names, Sherwood, Gerard (really??) etc. there's no way they'll be up for and/or any good at working with a small budget. We need a smart, efficient, preferably younger manager with little or no baggage and a willingness to roll up his (or her) sleeves and get on with it. Ainsworth is a decent option for me, also, maybe more so, Jackett (I accept he's not young). Gerard wouldn't be a bad shout in my opinion which is why i mentioned him. He would already have the respect of the players, can use his name to get us some good young loans from established Premier League clubs and after a year in the madhouse of Glasgow he wouldn't be fazed by taking on what is a difficult job at present. He has also been a relative success with Rangers but may think he is wasted up there. But Fenners, there's no way Gerard would want to come to us, for the reasons Tarbie and I have cited, plus we're way too small for his ego. I imagine he's thinking Liverpool in the future. We'd be a big step down from Rangers. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 12:18:41 GMT
hope rumours Sherwood is in the frame are bollox, that would really prove Les is looking after his mates Not even sure it's a case of Les looking after his mates. I genuinely don't think he has too much else in his locker other than calling up guys that he's worked with in the past. |
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Post by Shania on Apr 2, 2019 12:29:02 GMT
Win record is 50%, club with no money.....could work And if Phil Bowyer is a gaffer who commands respect from his players, that is also a plus.. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 12:30:06 GMT
There might be some substance to this Lee Bowyer rumour. I'd forgotten that Steve Gallen was part of his backroom team at Charlton. That would suit the normal remit of our board, nearly everyone they approach for managerial or backroom roles is linked to the club or one of the Directors somehow.
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Post by awin on Apr 2, 2019 12:38:45 GMT
Bowyer out of contract this summe as well.
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Post by James1979 on Apr 2, 2019 12:55:38 GMT
There might be some substance to this Lee Bowyer rumour. I'd forgotten that Steve Gallen was part of his backroom team at Charlton. That would suit the normal remit of our board, nearly everyone they approach for managerial or backroom roles is linked to the club or one of the Directors somehow. Steve gallen was harshly treated for me. What if Charlton go up though? |
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Post by hubble on Apr 2, 2019 12:59:54 GMT
How long before Bowyer got the Spanish Archer?
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Post by James1979 on Apr 2, 2019 13:00:55 GMT
What about Mark Robins?
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Post by Shania on Apr 2, 2019 13:08:07 GMT
Sol Campbell? Rodney Marsh wants him to come to QPR.
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Post by James1979 on Apr 2, 2019 13:12:17 GMT
Sol Campbell? Rodney Marsh wants him to come to QPR. I like Sol Campbell, fantastic defender and could be good manager but he’s managed 20 games in league 2. Lets look at likes of Robins who have put in hard yards already and are less of a risk |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 13:18:09 GMT
But Fenners, there's no way Gerard would want to come to us, for the reasons Tarbie and I have cited, plus we're way too small for his ego. I imagine he's thinking Liverpool in the future. We'd be a big step down from Rangers. It's conjecture on both our behalf that he would or wouldn't want to come here but I disagree with you about us being a step down from Rangers. Yes, Rangers are a far bigger club in terms of fan base and history, but it's a very different Glasgow Rangers to just 10 years ago. Financially they are on the edge of an abyss and will have to sell significantly in the summer, they are in a league which cannot attract players as well as the Championship can and they cant afford the wages that we can for most players. As crazy as it now seems, we are a far better attraction for a number of reasons than Glasgow Rangers. The only thing they can offer we can't is bigger crowds and a couple of European matches. He definitely has his eyes on the Liverpool job - and there's no doubt about that - but unless he proves himself in the English League system or replicates Celtic's soon to be treble-treble (which rightfully means nothing to anyone outside their fan base) the chances of him getting it are zero. Will he hold out for a better English league job? Probably, but with Rangers about to self-implode you may find that we're a better proposition for him than you think. Yeah, not having that myself Fenners. Glasgow Rangers are a much bigger club than us. And regardless of their recent off field problems, they are still a far bigger draw than us! |
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Post by Shania on Apr 2, 2019 13:37:36 GMT
I like Sol Campbell, fantastic defender and could be good manager but he’s managed 20 games in league 2. Lets look at likes of Robins who have put in hard yards already and are less of a risk and won 5 of those! Now, what was that about Chris Powell??? I'm all ears! Ok.  I have to look up Robins. He seems to have gone under my radar. At this stage Warburton, Bowyer and Casper Hjulmand are three candidates I would have interviewed If (God forbid) I was in charge. |
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I have to look up Robins. He seems to have gone under my radar. At this stage Warburton, Bowyer and Casper Hjulmand are three candidates I would have interviewed If (God forbid) I was in charge.