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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 2, 2019 13:46:20 GMT
I Note that we are being linked with Lee Bowyer at Charlton this Morning... I'm all for it if only for the Reacton on loft for words. The rage mass on there will be greater than the Quarkโgluon plasma baryonic matter of a black hole. I wouldn't be opposed to this. Kenny Jackett & Steve Gallen are still my first choice pick though.
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Post by The General on Apr 2, 2019 13:48:11 GMT
We need a manager like Warbuton experienced will avoid relegation and get us playing well agian
Sol Cambell , Bowyer , not good enough imho going backwards .
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Post by The General on Apr 2, 2019 13:49:20 GMT
Club is already going completly backward beacuse of that numpty Fernandes wot a total tool.
Destroyed the whole club imo
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Post by James1979 on Apr 2, 2019 13:58:24 GMT
Club is already going completly backward beacuse of that numpty Fernandes wot a total tool. Destroyed the whole club imo What about Mark Robins though? Great record and good experience
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 14:03:54 GMT
For once can we think outside of a pool of managers who are out of work.
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Post by The General on Apr 2, 2019 14:04:54 GMT
Dont think hes on the list James mate
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Post by The General on Apr 2, 2019 14:08:59 GMT
Cant see how we can stay in the division with no investment on players , most of the first team are out of contract in 6 games
That is a appalling situation in itself is it not the whole running of the club has been a disaster since they came for over 5 years.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 14:13:08 GMT
Cant see how we can stay in the division with no investment on players , most of the first team are out of contract in 6 games That is a appalling situation in itself is it not the whole running of the club has been a disaster since they came for over 5 years. Don't agree General. It's actually probably the way of things to come in this division. FFP means we have to all live within our means. This means a.) long contracts are high risk, in case you get lumbered with a player who gets injured or goes off the boil, and b.) we are in the midst of an adjustment in average earnings at Championship level. The above basically means that those falling out of contract will not get the same deal here, or anywhere else. It also means there will most likely be loads of players available on a free, or on a reasonably priced loan deal in the summer. We are doing the right thing by biding our time. Sign up the youngsters on reasonably low wages by all means, but the high earners need to accept less or move on.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 14:46:53 GMT
For once can we think outside of a pool of managers who are out of work. It's the expense involved isn't it mate? We are always in a position where we have to pay off the previous manager. Holloway confirmed on the radio yesterday he is still on the payroll. Unless McClaren was gracious enough to walk away with a settlement, he will also be on the payroll until the end of next season. If you keep having to pay managers off, it makes it pretty hard for a to also pay compensation to take a manager who is still wanted by his club. Particularly when you are in the financial predicament that we are!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 14:49:23 GMT
Why keep looking at managers who fail? That would then avois any potential pay off if and when they fail in fernandes's circus
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Post by The General on Apr 2, 2019 14:50:24 GMT
Hope your right Tarbs im just going by normal business solutions in most companies
No Investment No Business
Look at Sunderland now writing on the wall for 4 years
Its coming mate if we had not accumalated the points early in the season we would be in the bottom three now.
Next year will be even more difficult its a division of 2 halfs now and we are def in the bottom half mate
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Post by The General on Apr 2, 2019 14:52:06 GMT
Tarbs most of the first team are out of contract how can that be good buddy ?
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 15:18:27 GMT
Tarbs most of the first team are out of contract how can that be good buddy ? For the reasons I explained above mate. Let's take Sheffield Wednesday as an example. They've spent a fair bit of cash and have some high earners (Jordan Rhodes, Gary Hooper etc). Some have worked out, some haven't. Rhodes falls into the latter category, having only scored 5 goals for Wednesday despite a 10m quid fee, and a reported salary of over 40k a week. Wednesday have loaned him to Norwich, apparently for a lot less than he costs the club in wages. Under FFP 40k a week is completely unsustainable for any Championship club (unless they've just come down with Parachute Payments). In Rhodes they have a player that is knocking 30, has gone totally off the boil and has a contract that runs until 2020. This will hurt Wednesday, as nobody is going to take this guy off the payroll. Under FFP you can't just write it off as bad business and sign someone else, the books need to balance! The situation I'm explaining above is happening across the Championship. The knock on effect is contracts are getting shorter and salaries lower. It also means that some players on long contracts will be available for reasonably priced loan deals, Jeff Cameron being an example. Stoke know that no other club are going to match what he's getting paid, and loaning him for 50% of the wage they are paying him is better than paying him 100% of his contract to warm the bench. For us, FFP means we can no longer afford to pay Woz, Bidwell etc. the salary they have been getting. This means they either take a reduced salary here, or take their chances on a free in the summer. Most will probably do the latter as they will still believe they are worth more than what the current market rate for them is. But we are doing the right thing by not offering them another year on the same money. Trust me, there will be no shortage of decent players looking for a club at this level in the summer!
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Post by The General on Apr 2, 2019 15:31:51 GMT
Tarbs how can you be so positive when we have been shittt for the past 3 seasons mate
Honestly dont agree with that but i hope you are correct , i think we are heading to Div 1 the way we are managing the club atm.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 15:43:32 GMT
Tarbs how can you be so positive when we have been shittt for the past 3 seasons mate Honestly dont agree with that but i hope you are correct , i think we are heading to Div 1 the way we are managing the club atm. Mate, I'm confident that I understand the effect that FFP is having on the transfer market in the Championship. I never said anywhere that I was confident about our chances next season. A lot of that will depend on who we get in as manager. What we did in the transfer market last summer really concerned me. There was some money there to spend, but our Manager and DoF between them could only manage to find a 36 year old that was out of contract and 3 loans from the Prem.....and they only arrived after we'd been spanked in our first 4 games. Given our predicament we should have been scouring the lower leagues for decent talent on the cheap, but we didn't have the right people at the club to do it. As much as I disliked Holloway, it's clear to me now that the likes of Freeman, Smith, BOS, Scowen etc. were all his signings. For a club operating on the money we are these days, these sort of signings are hugely important. Whoever comes in next needs to know where to go for a bargain out of the lower leagues. If we get that right, we have a chance of going into next season with a decent squad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 15:58:28 GMT
The more I hear Lee Bowyer's name the more it grows on me, He has done really well with no money and also brought money in from player sales while staying competitive in the top 6 of league one. Yes it is a risk but rather him than Warburton or Sherwood.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 15:59:08 GMT
The more I hear Lee Bowyer's name the more it grows on me, He has done really well with no money and also brought money in from player sales while staying competitive in the top 6 of league one. Yes it is a risk but rather him than Warburton or Sherwood. Agree with all of that mate!
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 2, 2019 15:59:56 GMT
Liking the sound of Lee Bowyer. Just read up on him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 16:02:28 GMT
My mate is a big Charlton supporter and really rates the job he has done when you consider the owner is worse than our man. Would take no crap and they have been consistent all season so think he is the one to target and only has a deal till the end of the season.
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Post by BrightonR on Apr 2, 2019 16:43:13 GMT
Liking the sound of Lee Bowyer. Just read up on him. And bring Kieron Dyer back as his assistant? ๐
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 2, 2019 17:31:13 GMT
Liking the sound of Lee Bowyer. Just read up on him. And bring Kieron Dyer back as his assistant? ๐ ๐๐๐๐
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 2, 2019 18:26:44 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 18:31:53 GMT
Bowyer as Manager, Steve Gallen as Assistant? Gotta admit the idea is growing on me!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 19:15:32 GMT
Sky reckon he is keen to speak to us. Have to say I really like the idea and looks the best of those linked so far.
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Post by Shania on Apr 2, 2019 19:17:28 GMT
Another JFH perhaps. Or perhaps not ....
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Post by The General on Apr 2, 2019 19:58:27 GMT
Bowyer does not excite me blokes a Pikey
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 2, 2019 20:04:17 GMT
Bungle looking to cut the wage bill to 11 mil.
another relegation battle looms next season.
that fat farking clown needs to start looking at cutting the non entities in the backroom.
we have a club that avarages around 12k per game, which has a ceo, dof, technical director, ambassador, director of tea ladies, and chairmen of the broom cupboards.
stop fucusing and cutting players and start removing those sandwich munchers who hide in offices fiddling on their farking phones all day.
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Post by awin on Apr 2, 2019 20:07:53 GMT
Bowyer as Manager, Steve Gallen as Assistant? Gotta admit the idea is growing on me! Gets my vote
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 20:09:38 GMT
Bowyer's assistant at Charlton is Johnnie Jackson so not sure why Steve Gallen would be coming as number 2 if he was given the job. Like the idea but have a feeling it is bollox and a smokescreen for Ferdinand to appoint Sherwood.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 2, 2019 20:13:36 GMT
a smokescreen for Ferdinand to appoint Sherwood. The overwhelming majority of fans wouldn't stand for that, I'd have thought? And the club must realise that as they monitor all the fan sites.
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