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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 16, 2023 8:16:05 GMT
If we are going to nit pick over a missed chance here and a penalty there we would be here all week. Example. If Dickie had not made a stupid fucking needless foul 20 yards from our goal last week against WBA we'd have got a win. It's all ifs, buts and maybes. My point being IMO Critchley had slightly better results, slightly but was still shit in his 12 games but in fairness to him he also inherited what GA has, a side on their arses totally drained of ideas and confidence. We needed to stick with Critchley whatever the outcome and let him rebuild the sides confidence and fortunes but we didn't. Now GA is here we need to do the very same thing we didn't afford. Critchley. We can't keep sacking people when the same problems are still there. I’m not nit picking. You got to look at results but also performances. I think under Critchley we deserved more points, probably 11 from 11 league games. With Gareth 4 is about right from His 9 games. And we’ve played mainly the crap sides. But these crap sides beat us so effectively they better than us. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 16, 2023 8:17:38 GMT
If we are going to nit pick over a missed chance here and a penalty there we would be here all week. Example. If Dickie had not made a stupid fucking needless foul 20 yards from our goal last week against WBA we'd have got a win. It's all ifs, buts and maybes. My point being IMO Critchley had slightly better results, slightly but was still shit in his 12 games but in fairness to him he also inherited what GA has, a side on their arses totally drained of ideas and confidence. We needed to stick with Critchley whatever the outcome and let him rebuild the sides confidence and fortunes but we didn't. Now GA is here we need to do the very same thing we didn't afford. Critchley. We can't keep sacking people when the same problems are still there. I’m not nit picking. You got to look at results but also performances. I think under Critchley we deserved more points, probably 11 from 11 league games. With Gareth 4 is about right from His 9 games. And we’ve played mainly the crap sides. I wasn't having a dig at you mate I was saying we could pick the bones out of every game and find reasons or excuses. I think Critchley in the long run would have been a better long term appointment but he also struggled to get a tune out of this shoddy side. In hindsight his 4 draws and 1 win were good form! |
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Post by James1979 on Apr 16, 2023 8:23:57 GMT
I’m not nit picking. You got to look at results but also performances. I think under Critchley we deserved more points, probably 11 from 11 league games. With Gareth 4 is about right from His 9 games. And we’ve played mainly the crap sides. I wasn't having a dig at you mate I was saying we could pick the bones out of every game and find reasons or excuses. I think Critchley in the long run would have been a better long term appointment but he also struggled to get a tune out of this shoddy side. In hindsight his 4 draws and 1 win were good form! Yeah sorry I just get more annoyed at the sacking of Critchley by the day. The thought of going to games in League 1 when we’re mid table watching hoof ball, with Gareth cheerleaders telling us to be grateful, just makes me want to cry! |
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Post by hubble on Apr 16, 2023 8:28:04 GMT
It’s very honest for you to say that Ainsworth was a bad call Hubble as it would be much easier to say let him rebuild next season. I’m not trying to defend either Ferdinand or Hoos but they did attend yesterdays game in a very empty directors section of the SA Rd stand.
Yeah, well I was wrong about Ainsworth mate. I let sentiment blind me to his obvious flaws as a manager.
I don't think Les and Lee turning up yesterday does them any credit though, they should be there, it's part of their (extremely well paid) job.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 16, 2023 8:35:51 GMT
i don't know whethwr ainsworth is the wrong option for the long term. short term though he looks like a bad call so far which is incredibly grating.
gaz is the least of our problems though, the entire club is toxic and just needs a big clearout. whether thats in the championship or league 1 it doesn't really matter.
thats where i think someone like gaz can come in and do well. people compare him to ollie but what did ollie do in his first spell when we were braset and couldn't even afford footballs? he created a togetherness with the players and fans and brought his positivity out for all to see.
like it or not we are in a huge huge mess and there's lots of work to be done on and off the field in the post season. i don't think someone like NC could handle that tbh but i reckon gaz could.
yes the football has been dire, i've fucking hated this year. i'm dreading the last 2 games. i know i'll still go to them because i'm retarded but maybe the football has been so shit because gaz has asked the players to keep it simple with long balls due to their confidence.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 16, 2023 8:40:37 GMT
i don't know whethwr ainsworth is the wrong option for the long term. short term though he looks like a bad call so far which is incredibly grating. gaz is the least of our problems though, the entire club is toxic and just needs a big clearout. whether thats in the championship or league 1 it doesn't really matter. thats where i think someone like gaz can come in and do well. people compare him to ollie but what did ollie do in his first spell when we were braset and couldn't even afford footballs? he created a togetherness with the players and fans and brought his positivity out for all to see. like it or not we are in a huge huge mess and there's lots of work to be done on and off the field in the post season. i don't think someone like NC could handle that tbh but i reckon gaz could. yes the football has been dire, i've fucking hated this year. i'm dreading the last 2 games. i know i'll still go to them because i'm retarded but maybe the football has been so shit because gaz has asked the players to keep it simple with long balls due to their confidence. Ainsworth shouldn’t be a problem as he shouldn’t be here and we as a club shouldn’t be in a position where we looking for someone who will do well in bloody league 1 in the first place. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 16, 2023 12:41:45 GMT
He still here I take it?
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 16, 2023 13:09:54 GMT
i don't know whethwr ainsworth is the wrong option for the long term He's just the wrong answer, period. Awful appointment and for 3.5 years. Dunno why we couldn't have got someone at least proven at this level on a short term, plenty doing that like Palace. It was the obvious thing to do. Instead we load up and aim for our feet as per. Cunts. |
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Post by Shania on Apr 16, 2023 13:12:58 GMT
I have the feeling that Amit was the one who went for Ainsworth. Not Les.
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Post by hubble on Apr 16, 2023 13:24:46 GMT
i don't know whethwr ainsworth is the wrong option for the long term He's just the wrong answer, period. Awful appointment and for 3.5 years. Dunno why we couldn't have got someone at least proven at this level on a short term, plenty doing that like Palace. It was the obvious thing to do. Instead we load up and aim for our feet as per. Cunts.
Agreed - about as bad an appointment and situation as they could possibly have mustered. There's no way he should be managing us next season. We should be looking for exactly the same kind of manager/coach that we were when the board appointed Beale. Someone like Liam Richardson perhaps. Someone who can build the squad, bring in the youth, etc. etc. etc. But of course the other caveat is that Les and co have to go.
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Post by spongeparr on Apr 16, 2023 14:51:10 GMT
i don't know whethwr ainsworth is the wrong option for the long term. short term though he looks like a bad call so far which is incredibly grating. gaz is the least of our problems though, the entire club is toxic and just needs a big clearout. whether thats in the championship or league 1 it doesn't really matter. thats where i think someone like gaz can come in and do well. people compare him to ollie but what did ollie do in his first spell when we were braset and couldn't even afford footballs? he created a togetherness with the players and fans and brought his positivity out for all to see. like it or not we are in a huge huge mess and there's lots of work to be done on and off the field in the post season. i don't think someone like NC could handle that tbh but i reckon gaz could. yes the football has been dire, i've fucking hated this year. i'm dreading the last 2 games. i know i'll still go to them because i'm retarded but maybe the football has been so shit because gaz has asked the players to keep it simple with long balls due to their confidence. Funny about perceptions. At the start of the season, everyone was loving QPR. Exciting manager, new training ground, good start to the season etc. It's all come crumbling down since then. You're giving Gav too much credit. He says go long as that all he knows. He had enough time at Wycombe to change it but didn't. He has better players (in theory) now but still pumps it long. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 16, 2023 14:58:05 GMT
i don't know whethwr ainsworth is the wrong option for the long term. short term though he looks like a bad call so far which is incredibly grating. gaz is the least of our problems though, the entire club is toxic and just needs a big clearout. whether thats in the championship or league 1 it doesn't really matter. thats where i think someone like gaz can come in and do well. people compare him to ollie but what did ollie do in his first spell when we were braset and couldn't even afford footballs? he created a togetherness with the players and fans and brought his positivity out for all to see. like it or not we are in a huge huge mess and there's lots of work to be done on and off the field in the post season. i don't think someone like NC could handle that tbh but i reckon gaz could. yes the football has been dire, i've fucking hated this year. i'm dreading the last 2 games. i know i'll still go to them because i'm retarded but maybe the football has been so shit because gaz has asked the players to keep it simple with long balls due to their confidence. Funny about perceptions. At the start of the season, everyone was loving QPR. Exciting manager, new training ground, good start to the season etc. It's all come crumbling down since then. You're giving Gav too much credit. He says go long as that all he knows. He had enough time at Wycombe to change it but didn't. He has better players (in theory) now but still pumps it long. He's about as relevant as boney m nowadays |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 16, 2023 15:02:17 GMT
He's about as relevant as boney m nowadays And our younger readers will need to google them! |
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Post by West Acton on Apr 16, 2023 15:39:41 GMT
Funny about perceptions. At the start of the season, everyone was loving QPR. Exciting manager, new training ground, good start to the season etc. It's all come crumbling down since then. You're giving Gav too much credit. He says go long as that all he knows. He had enough time at Wycombe to change it but didn't. He has better players (in theory) now but still pumps it long. He's about as relevant as boney m nowadays Bobby was my god father. Fact of the day 😁 |
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 16, 2023 22:27:27 GMT
He's about as relevant as boney m nowadays Bobby was my god father. Fact of the day 😁 I still have a chuckle about that every time I hear their songs😁 |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 17, 2023 8:49:02 GMT
I am wondering if Critch might have kept us up here you know. We were at least drawing games with him and were minutes away from a couple of home games v Sheff and Swansea.
We just don't look capable of getting another draw at the moment.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Apr 17, 2023 9:11:23 GMT
Been papering over cracks for ages at this club. Get rid of Ferdinand and Hoos and let Ainsworth run the football side like he did at Wycombe
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Post by Shania on Apr 17, 2023 9:21:57 GMT
Note to self or to whom it may concern: With all the chaos going on in the background have can GA and his assistant possibly think straight and make sensible decisions on or off the field?
PS. I know many will say it`s his job, but anyway?
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 17, 2023 9:44:12 GMT
Note to self or to whom it may concern: With all the chaos going on in the background have can GA and his assistant possibly think straight and make sensible decisions on or off the field? PS. I know many will say it`s his job, but anyway? Its an absolute shit show, Shania. We have to be up there as one of the worst run clubs in the country. owners who don't give a fuck The clown show currently running football matters. a coach who prances around on the touchline in a leather jacket and red healed shoes who resembles a fucking drag queen players who could not give a toss. and lastly, and most embarrassingly of it all, supporters who clap these wankers after every defeat. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 17, 2023 9:52:45 GMT
and most embarrassingly of it all, supporters who clap these wankers after every defeat. In all honesty, exactly what is there to applaud? 😕 Is it a severe case of mass cognitive dissonance? |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 17, 2023 9:58:34 GMT
and most embarrassingly of it all, supporters who clap these wankers after every defeat. In all honesty, exactly what is there to applaud? 😕 Is it a severe case of mass cognitive dissonance? they clap that we’ve kept it down to 6 this season😀 |
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Post by sparks on Apr 17, 2023 12:20:12 GMT
I’m gobsmacked if this interview today is supposed to be a rallying cry to the players.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 17, 2023 12:23:43 GMT
Still think it's ludicrous to want the guy out after having zero chance to build something and put his own mark on the squad, regardless of results.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 17, 2023 12:36:13 GMT
Still think it's ludicrous to want the guy out after having zero chance to build something and put his own mark on the squad, regardless of results. His mark is fuck all points, when your near top of table , you can give the luxury of time, we not |
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 17, 2023 12:58:54 GMT
Still think it's ludicrous to want the guy out after having zero chance to build something and put his own mark on the squad, regardless of results. We didn't do that for Critchley. We don't have the luxury of taking a 'regardless of results' attitude. Although admittedly they often play like they dont give a fuck. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 17, 2023 13:13:25 GMT
All this he a nice bloke legend stuff. I don’t care if he saved 30 babies in qpr bibs from burning building, I don’t care how many tiger cubs days he makes, I don’t care if he makes nuns nosh donkeys. He there paid to do 1 job. 1 bloody job and he not doing it. This is elite sport not a popularity contest.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 17, 2023 13:20:02 GMT
Still think it's ludicrous to want the guy out after having zero chance to build something and put his own mark on the squad, regardless of results. thats my view on it. i'm resigned to us going down and view it as a done deal now. we're in turmoil but so were wycombe when gaz took over there and look what he did what them. in hindsight there probably were better options for managers but we have so much cancer in the club that we need some life and positivity breathed back into it which is what gaz does bring. he at least needs to be given time to shape the squad up, clear out some players/backroom and to bring some fresh people back into the club. as it stands i think we'll have a decent spine of players when we go down and some money to reinvest. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 17, 2023 14:15:50 GMT
Nothing at all wrong with a long ball if it's accurate and not aimless! Good passing teams mix it up by going long AND short.
Is it fair to blame Gareth for that with a team decimated by loss of form and injuries?
Another reasonable question to ask is could ANY manager have got a tune out of these players?
And for the record, I was always in the keep Critchley camp, (never even wanted Gareth).
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 17, 2023 14:21:15 GMT
Sack the medical team as well
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Post by West Acton on Apr 17, 2023 15:02:30 GMT
Still think it's ludicrous to want the guy out after having zero chance to build something and put his own mark on the squad, regardless of results. its results business ginge. No bounce or improvement at all. We’ve gone backwards. I hope he gets a result Wednesday not just for us but him give him breathing space. |
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