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Post by Norfolk Ranger on May 9, 2023 21:49:06 GMT
Changed to he should go. Yesterday done it for me,a chance to play a few fringe players and try a different approach.....what did we get...same old shite.
Just not convinced that he is capable of changing from his god awful anti-football tactics.
I may be fickle and a fair weather fan in wanting him to go,but when me and my daughter do come to a home game it costs me nigh on £200 what with tickets,train fares, food etc and for that outlay would hope to see some decent football played and we aren't going to get any of that while Ainsworth is in charge.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 10, 2023 0:57:44 GMT
Interesting. From unanimous stay to almost 50/50 now...
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Post by West Acton on May 11, 2023 17:41:12 GMT
I would not be bothered if they changed but in Fairness to him he’s probably earned the start of next season.
His job was to keep us up and he did that. I did see stat which said when he arrived we were something like 9points clear of drop so we kind of went backwards in achieving goal.
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Post by Shania on May 11, 2023 17:56:43 GMT
If he doesn't feel he`s getting backed this summer he may chose to leave. Or being ditched. Problem solved.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 11, 2023 18:39:34 GMT
Incredible turnaround from 75%/25% in favour of keeping him on to now 53%/47% in favour of sacking him - and all in the space of a solitary loss against Bristol.
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Post by Shania on May 11, 2023 18:45:07 GMT
Still keep for me, but I wonder how much truth there is in the Ruddier rumour.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 11, 2023 18:57:48 GMT
Incredible turnaround from 75%/25% in favour of keeping him on to now 53%/47% in favour of sacking him - and all in the space of a solitary loss against Bristol. I don’t think it was just the loss that changed the result of this poll, though the manner of the defeat probably didn’t help. I deliberately didn’t vote till the end of the season as thought it was the wrong debate to have while we were fighting for survival. I’m grateful to him for keeping us up but my loyalties are to QPR, not Gareth Ainsworth. I just struggle to see Ainsworth a) keeping us up or b) developing players to sell on. To me he is back to the Holloway era and if allowed free reign will undo many years hard work, which was trying - not always successfully - to rebuild the club on a more sustainable, progressive footing. He will sign a bunch of carthorses on frees from Scunthorpe, we will be in or around the relegation zone and he will be sacked by Christmas. The board will then U-turn again (because it’s what they do) and try to get a Beale type coach in. And we will be stuck with all the carthorses on three year deals the new coach will refuse to play. He will then demand new signings. And meanwhile we will move ever closer to the FFP abyss. You can just see this scenario playing out, and where it will lead. Yet you can see the board doing it anyway… |
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Post by Stanley75 on May 11, 2023 19:04:10 GMT
Incredible turnaround from 75%/25% in favour of keeping him on to now 53%/47% in favour of sacking him - and all in the space of a solitary loss against Bristol. I’m grateful to him for keeping us up but my loyalties are to QPR, not Gareth Ainsworth. I just struggle to see Ainsworth a) keeping us up or b) developing players to sell on. To me he is back to the Holloway era and if allowed free reign will undo many years hard work, which was trying - not always successfully - to rebuild the club on a more sustainable, progressive footing. He will sign a bunch of carthorses on frees from Scunthorpe, we will be in or around the relegation zone and he will be sacked by Christmas. The board will then U-turn again (because it’s what they do) and try to get a Beale type coach in. And we will be stuck with all the carthorses on three year deals the new coach will refuse to play. He will then demand new signings. And meanwhile we will move ever closer to the FFP abyss. You can just see this scenario playing out, and where it will lead. Yet you can see the board doing it anyway… Stains, we were not fighting for survival. The poll went up when we were safe (hence the poll question "now that we are safe"). The Bristol game was a dead rubber, we lost and then there was a dramatic change in the votes. Yes, you didn't vote til after the game, but a significant number changed their votes after that one result. I just find that interesting. |
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Post by alanwycombe on May 11, 2023 19:04:18 GMT
But don’t we have a DOF set up to prevent that?
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 11, 2023 19:14:14 GMT
I don’t think it was just the loss that changed the result of this poll. I deliberately didn’t vote till the end of the season as thought it was the wrong debate to have while we were fighting for survival. I’m grateful to him for keeping us up but my loyalties are to QPR, not Gareth Ainsworth. I just struggle to see Ainsworth a) keeping us up or b) developing players to sell on. To me he is back to the Holloway era and if allowed free reign will undo many years hard work, which was trying - not always successfully - to rebuild the club on a more sustainable, progressive footing. He will sign a bunch of carthorses on frees from Scunthorpe, we will be in or around the relegation zone and he will be sacked by Christmas. The board will then U-turn again (because it’s what they do) and try to get a Beale type coach in. And we will be stuck with all the carthorses on three year deals the new coach will refuse to play. He will then demand new signings. And meanwhile we will move ever closer to the FFP abyss. You can just see this scenario playing out, and where it will lead. Yet you can see the board doing it anyway… Stains, we were not fighting for survival. The poll went up when we were safe. The Bristol game was a dead rubber, we lost and then there was a dramatic change in the votes. Yes, you didn't vote til after the game, but a significant number changed their votes after that one result. I just find that interesting. Interesting for sure and fair point then as to when the poll went up. Maybe one or two were a bit fickle, don’t know their reasoning. I think it’s fair tho to re-consider once the dust has settled on a season. Maybe (just speculating) some accepted we had to grind out results any which way when relegation was possible. But maybe the Bristol game confirmed the worst fears of some people - that playing defensive, unskillful, unambitious non-possession based football is just the Ainsworth way, whether we are under pressure or not. I’m fairly pragmatic and whilst I became a QPR fan because I thought we represented playing proper football, I do get we have fucked up so next year we have to do whatever works. My fear tho is that playing that way won’t be enough to keep us up next season (extrapolate the Ainsworth record across a season and we would be toast). |
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Post by West Acton on May 11, 2023 19:19:41 GMT
Incredible turnaround from 75%/25% in favour of keeping him on to now 53%/47% in favour of sacking him - and all in the space of a solitary loss against Bristol. I don’t think it was just the loss that changed the result of this poll, though the manner of the defeat probably didn’t help. I deliberately didn’t vote till the end of the season as thought it was the wrong debate to have while we were fighting for survival. I’m grateful to him for keeping us up but my loyalties are to QPR, not Gareth Ainsworth. I just struggle to see Ainsworth a) keeping us up or b) developing players to sell on. To me he is back to the Holloway era and if allowed free reign will undo many years hard work, which was trying - not always successfully - to rebuild the club on a more sustainable, progressive footing. He will sign a bunch of carthorses on frees from Scunthorpe, we will be in or around the relegation zone and he will be sacked by Christmas. The board will then U-turn again (because it’s what they do) and try to get a Beale type coach in. And we will be stuck with all the carthorses on three year deals the new coach will refuse to play. He will then demand new signings. And meanwhile we will move ever closer to the FFP abyss. You can just see this scenario playing out, and where it will lead. Yet you can see the board doing it anyway… my feelings word for word |
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Post by West Acton on May 11, 2023 19:23:18 GMT
But don’t we have a DOF set up to prevent that? we have a DOF in name only and stupidity have never fully embedded proper DOF structure. Really fucks me off. Warburton signed who he wanted as did Beale and no doubt we will have number of talentless lumps coming in under Ainsworth that’s not how it should work. Club is rancid. |
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Post by Shania on May 11, 2023 19:36:31 GMT
imo, we played decent football until the moment when Adomah made that crucial mistake which lead to the goal.
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Post by 1qprdk on May 11, 2023 20:17:31 GMT
imo, we played decent football until the moment when Adomah made that crucial mistake which lead to the goal. Agreed, he actually tried to play a bit more expansive, and it backfired. More possession than the three games before which got us the points needed. Hence his comments about us (the current players) not being good enough(or working hard enough) for the possession based style to work. I think he has a point. |
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Post by sparks on May 11, 2023 20:21:33 GMT
It seems very odd for posters to be changing their vote based on one game.
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Post by West Acton on May 12, 2023 6:09:52 GMT
imo, we played decent football until the moment when Adomah made that crucial mistake which lead to the goal. watched worse performances from us than Saturday under previous two managers. As said we were pretty tidy first half just not a threat in front of goal. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 12, 2023 7:38:45 GMT
It seems very odd for posters to be changing their vote based on one game. Don’t worry my electrician? Fellow, I haven’t. Shouldn’t of got job, so no problem him not keeping it |
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Post by spongeparr on May 12, 2023 8:28:05 GMT
Incredible turnaround from 75%/25% in favour of keeping him on to now 53%/47% in favour of sacking him - and all in the space of a solitary loss against Bristol. I don’t think it was just the loss that changed the result of this poll, though the manner of the defeat probably didn’t help. I deliberately didn’t vote till the end of the season as thought it was the wrong debate to have while we were fighting for survival. I’m grateful to him for keeping us up but my loyalties are to QPR, not Gareth Ainsworth. I just struggle to see Ainsworth a) keeping us up or b) developing players to sell on. To me he is back to the Holloway era and if allowed free reign will undo many years hard work, which was trying - not always successfully - to rebuild the club on a more sustainable, progressive footing. He will sign a bunch of carthorses on frees from Scunthorpe, we will be in or around the relegation zone and he will be sacked by Christmas. The board will then U-turn again (because it’s what they do) and try to get a Beale type coach in. And we will be stuck with all the carthorses on three year deals the new coach will refuse to play. He will then demand new signings. And meanwhile we will move ever closer to the FFP abyss. You can just see this scenario playing out, and where it will lead. Yet you can see the board doing it anyway… Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Post by Stanley75 on May 17, 2023 18:10:27 GMT
Poll closes at midnight. Final call to vote, or change your current one.
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Post by alanwycombe on May 17, 2023 18:23:31 GMT
Needs someone good above him to work with and have a positive influence. He’s got no chance of personal improvement if he’s swallowed up in mediocrity.
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Post by Shania on May 17, 2023 18:48:46 GMT
With next to no interference from the current DOF and with some vital additions to the squad he might be fine.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 17, 2023 20:01:27 GMT
If I don't like the result can I launch a coup?
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 17, 2023 20:11:52 GMT
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Post by spongeparr on May 18, 2023 12:13:36 GMT
By losing?  |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 18, 2023 15:19:18 GMT
By losing? Almost certainly that as well! But reading that interview it basically sounds as if we will resemble a John Smith's ad next season |
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