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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 6, 2023 6:29:48 GMT
Owner taking action to rectify their initial mistake, and actively trying to get out of trouble. We carry on as normal
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 6, 2023 6:39:29 GMT
Who was the weird Eastern European prick on there who used to ban anyone for anything? Met him once. Strange looking fucker with beer bottle bins on. hamster gerbil fella, krill or something Proper weird cunt. Banned one of the best posters Merry Ploughboy for calling someone a plum ffs. Get a life.
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Post by coneysboots on Oct 6, 2023 7:08:46 GMT
hamster gerbil fella, krill or something Proper weird cunt. Banned one of the best posters Merry Ploughboy for calling someone a plum ffs. Get a life. He was from Estonia. I did meet him once when me and the missus went there for the week. Was a bit odd. He spent the whole time talking about the second world war
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 6, 2023 7:15:27 GMT
Proper weird cunt. Banned one of the best posters Merry Ploughboy for calling someone a plum ffs. Get a life. He was Estonia. I did meet him once when me and the missus went there for the week. Was a bit odd. He spent the whole time talking about the second world war Creepy looking fucker too.
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Post by 2Loftus on Oct 6, 2023 8:32:24 GMT
He was Estonia. I did meet him once when me and the missus went there for the week. Was a bit odd. He spent the whole time talking about the second world war Creepy looking fucker too.Oi, that's face-ist...
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Post by Vespa on Oct 6, 2023 8:33:30 GMT
Proper weird cunt. Banned one of the best posters Merry Ploughboy for calling someone a plum ffs. Get a life. He was from Estonia. I did meet him once when me and the missus went there for the week. Was a bit odd. He spent the whole time talking about the second world war
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Post by oldr on Oct 6, 2023 8:56:59 GMT
Just read the account of someone who went to the 2004 reunion last night and "shook [Ainsworth] by the hand and told him to keep going"
This is what we're up against. Not only a board who are out of touch but fans who can't separate their love for what Ainsworth did 20 years ago from the reality of 2024.
This is why I'm hoping for heavy defeats because if we don't get them it allows the latter of those 2 the chance to pretend all is well and the board listen to those voices more than others.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 6, 2023 9:29:36 GMT
Just read the account of someone who went to the 2004 reunion last night and "shook [Ainsworth] by the hand and told him to keep going" This is what we're up against. Not only a board who are out of touch but fans who can't separate their love for what Ainsworth did 20 years ago from the reality of 2024. This is why I'm hoping for heavy defeats because if we don't get them it allows the latter of those 2 the chance to pretend all is well and the board listen to those voices more than others. “This is what we’re up against”🤣 Ffs.
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 6, 2023 9:34:30 GMT
Just read the account of someone who went to the 2004 reunion last night and "shook [Ainsworth] by the hand and told him to keep going"This is what we're up against. Not only a board who are out of touch but fans who can't separate their love for what Ainsworth did 20 years ago from the reality of 2024. This is why I'm hoping for heavy defeats because if we don't get them it allows the latter of those 2 the chance to pretend all is well and the board listen to those voices more than others. Probably not the time to say 'you're shit fuck off' He's in the job so all we can do is encourage and hope we get some change in fortunes. Also I can't be having any proper QPR fan hoping for heavy defeats. That's just odd.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 6, 2023 9:57:17 GMT
Just read the account of someone who went to the 2004 reunion last night and "shook [Ainsworth] by the hand and told him to keep going"This is what we're up against. Not only a board who are out of touch but fans who can't separate their love for what Ainsworth did 20 years ago from the reality of 2024. This is why I'm hoping for heavy defeats because if we don't get them it allows the latter of those 2 the chance to pretend all is well and the board listen to those voices more than others. Probably not the time to say 'you're shit fuck off' He's in the job so all we can do is encourage and hope we get some change in fortunes. Also I can't be having any proper QPR fan hoping for heavy defeats. That's just odd. The blokes clearly a wum. He refers to the fan base in the Ollie era as divs. I suppose we should be grateful it’s not just our current set of supporters who are idiots😆
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 6, 2023 10:09:48 GMT
Are we going to stick with 5 at the back? Not sure it works that well for us. Makes us a bit tighter at the back, but we just pump it down the line. Doesn't give Paal or Smyth enough time to get up and support which in turn, makes it a really defensive team.
Drop a CB and bring Willock (if fit) in so he can link with Chair, Paal.
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Begovic
Kakay (until Cannon is fit) Cook salter clark/Fox Paal
Field Colback
Smyth Chair Willock
Dykes
Even just 1 up top, is more attacking as we can keep chair, willock and smyth further up. Played our best stuff with them up top together last year.
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 6, 2023 11:07:28 GMT
Even just 1 up top, is more attacking as we can keep chair, willock and smyth further up. Played our best stuff with them up top together last year. agree re 442, apart from anything else you need quality and fitness to play WBs (inverted or otherwise) but... I think our best football in recent times was when Beale picked an interchangeable front three (kind of false 9, Dykes wasn't on the park). Other sides couldn't cope. I just don't think GA is capable of that kind of preparation and thinking. I think he'd make a brilliant no 2 but in the current situation he's out of his depth.
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Post by oldr on Oct 6, 2023 11:24:34 GMT
Probably not the time to say 'you're shit fuck off' He's in the job so all we can do is encourage and hope we get some change in fortunes. Also I can't be having any proper QPR fan hoping for heavy defeats. That's just odd. The blokes clearly a wum. He refers to the fan base in the Ollie era as divs. I suppose we should be grateful it’s not just our current set of supporters who are idiots😆 Everyone who posts something I disagree with is a wind up merchant, eh? Yes I found the fans during the Holloway era divvy and - combined with the club - at odds with the standard set. We weren't exactly Arsenal's marble Hall but definitely better than that 'our cave' bollocks in my opinion. If you enjoyed that era good for you but if we all thought the same the World would be a boring place... However, wind up merchant I am certainly not so if you think my opinions are shit that's fine and I can live with it.
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Post by oldr on Oct 6, 2023 11:26:45 GMT
Just read the account of someone who went to the 2004 reunion last night and "shook [Ainsworth] by the hand and told him to keep going"This is what we're up against. Not only a board who are out of touch but fans who can't separate their love for what Ainsworth did 20 years ago from the reality of 2024. This is why I'm hoping for heavy defeats because if we don't get them it allows the latter of those 2 the chance to pretend all is well and the board listen to those voices more than others. Probably not the time to say 'you're shit fuck off' He's in the job so all we can do is encourage and hope we get some change in fortunes. Also I can't be having any proper QPR fan hoping for heavy defeats. That's just odd. The longer we 'only' lose by a goal or 2 and Ainsworth has someone to blame he stays.... Heavy defeats will hurt for a few days, Ainsworth staying will hurt the club for a lot longer.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 6, 2023 12:03:13 GMT
The blokes clearly a wum. He refers to the fan base in the Ollie era as divs. I suppose we should be grateful it’s not just our current set of supporters who are idiots😆 Everyone who posts something I disagree with is a wind up merchant, eh? Yes I found the fans during the Holloway era divvy and - combined with the club - at odds with the standard set. We weren't exactly Arsenal's marble Hall but definitely better than that 'our cave' bollocks in my opinion. If you enjoyed that era good for you but if we all thought the same the World would be a boring place... However, wind up merchant I am certainly not so if you think my opinions are shit that's fine and I can live with it. You’re talking about the first Holloway period right? When the club and fans had more of a connection than anytime since. And plenty of times before. When the place was rocking week in week out and the stadium roof felt like it was about to lift off when Furlong scored that goal against Oldham?
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Post by oldr on Oct 6, 2023 12:11:39 GMT
Everyone who posts something I disagree with is a wind up merchant, eh? Yes I found the fans during the Holloway era divvy and - combined with the club - at odds with the standard set. We weren't exactly Arsenal's marble Hall but definitely better than that 'our cave' bollocks in my opinion. If you enjoyed that era good for you but if we all thought the same the World would be a boring place... However, wind up merchant I am certainly not so if you think my opinions are shit that's fine and I can live with it. You’re talking about the first Holloway period right? When the club and fans had more of a connection than anytime since. And plenty of times before. When the place was rocking week in week out and the stadium roof felt like it was about to lift off when Furlong scored that goal against Oldham? Yep, I didn't enjoy it for the most part. What can I say? The fans, to me, seemed to become a cult rather than a fanbase and being brought up with Venables, Smith, G Francis et al 'Ollyisms' made me cringe. I was used to classy managers, not a personality like Ian Holloway and the club was far removed from the one I fell in love with. There were also plenty of occasions when Loftus Road was rocking prior to his arrival and plenty of goals which made it seem that the roof would come off. I know you didn't suggest that there wasn't but just want to remind those who may think Ian Holloway brought something unprecedented to QPR. As I say, if you enjoyed that era then that's great and I'm sure you have some great memories which bring a smile when you recall them 👍
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Post by Shania on Oct 6, 2023 12:39:06 GMT
When Les Ferdinand was sold the original QPR died.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 6, 2023 13:06:06 GMT
You’re talking about the first Holloway period right? When the club and fans had more of a connection than anytime since. And plenty of times before. When the place was rocking week in week out and the stadium roof felt like it was about to lift off when Furlong scored that goal against Oldham? Yep, I didn't enjoy it for the most part. What can I say? The fans, to me, seemed to become a cult rather than a fanbase and being brought up with Venables, Smith, G Francis et al 'Ollyisms' made me cringe. I was used to classy managers, not a personality like Ian Holloway and the club was far removed from the one I fell in love with. There were also plenty of occasions when Loftus Road was rocking prior to his arrival and plenty of goals which made it seem that the roof would come off. I know you didn't suggest that there wasn't but just want to remind those who may think Ian Holloway brought something unprecedented to QPR. As I say, if you enjoyed that era then that's great and I'm sure you have some great memories which bring a smile when you recall them 👍 Loved the Venables era. It was a fantastic time for the club and fans but times change and so has football. That’s not to say we shouldn’t constantly strive for success and maybe one day we’ll return to those halcyon days. But all the while I try and remain realistic. If you didn’t enjoy the Holloway era and seem unable to enjoy anything about being a fan now other than success then I truly feel for you.
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 6, 2023 13:18:15 GMT
Yep, I didn't enjoy it for the most part. What can I say? The fans, to me, seemed to become a cult rather than a fanbase and being brought up with Venables, Smith, G Francis et al 'Ollyisms' made me cringe. I was used to classy managers, not a personality like Ian Holloway and the club was far removed from the one I fell in love with. There were also plenty of occasions when Loftus Road was rocking prior to his arrival and plenty of goals which made it seem that the roof would come off. I know you didn't suggest that there wasn't but just want to remind those who may think Ian Holloway brought something unprecedented to QPR. As I say, if you enjoyed that era then that's great and I'm sure you have some great memories which bring a smile when you recall them 👍 Loved the Venables era. It was a fantastic time for the club and fans but times change and so has football. That’s not to say we shouldn’t constantly strive for success and maybe one day we’ll return to those halcyon days. But all the while I try and remain realistic. If you didn’t enjoy the Holloway era and seem unable to enjoy anything about being a fan now other than success then I truly feel for you. Yeah that first Olly period was good but we had 35,000 crammed in when we were really good.... proper bear pit. Plus we played football. That was like 74, 75 and the Sexton era. People who were bought up on that naturally find the idea of your Ollies and GAs managing the club a bit.... shit, frankly. Because it showed what you could do with a club like ours. You just need to make the right decisions at the top of the club. We simply haven't done that for years.
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Post by oldr on Oct 6, 2023 13:30:09 GMT
Yep, I didn't enjoy it for the most part. What can I say? The fans, to me, seemed to become a cult rather than a fanbase and being brought up with Venables, Smith, G Francis et al 'Ollyisms' made me cringe. I was used to classy managers, not a personality like Ian Holloway and the club was far removed from the one I fell in love with. There were also plenty of occasions when Loftus Road was rocking prior to his arrival and plenty of goals which made it seem that the roof would come off. I know you didn't suggest that there wasn't but just want to remind those who may think Ian Holloway brought something unprecedented to QPR. As I say, if you enjoyed that era then that's great and I'm sure you have some great memories which bring a smile when you recall them 👍 Loved the Venables era. It was a fantastic time for the club and fans but times change and so has football. That’s not to say we shouldn’t constantly strive for success and maybe one day we’ll return to those halcyon days. But all the while I try and remain realistic. If you didn’t enjoy the Holloway era and seem unable to enjoy anything about being a fan now other than success then I truly feel for you. Oh don't feel for me, I was lucky to see the club as it should be and I feel for those who haven't. Also success is very subjective. For me it's never been about divisional status it's about maintaining the standards and ethos which we are synonymous with: Good football, good youth and scouting networks and an attitude installed by Alex Stock which says we may not be as big as Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs but were sure not going to feel sorry for ourselves. Also important for me is carrying on the class this club was famous for.
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Post by oldr on Oct 6, 2023 13:34:09 GMT
When Les Ferdinand was sold the original QPR died. That was definitely the start of the decline but the day QPR died was when we sold our soul to the money men and since then it's been a tribute act. For me - and I do want to stress that this is only my opinion others will disagree with this - I find it absolutely bizarre and astonishing that anyone who grew up watching us from Stock onwards could have been happy with the direction we took when Biatone and Eccleston took over. In fact, it's possible to question any acceptance of the Paldini era onwards in my opinion.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 6, 2023 14:19:08 GMT
I kind of miss Flávio, noddy if had got the job would of been gone last season and for all the fat Italians faults he knew how to make choices through a business not sentimental eye.
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Post by 2Loftus on Oct 6, 2023 15:20:45 GMT
I kind of miss Flávio, noddy if had got the job would of been gone last season and for all the fat Italians faults he knew how to make choices through a business not sentimental eye. Gotta love the £10,000 chandelier... oh, and getting one of his F1 drivers to deliberately crash during a race to give the other one an advantage at the restart. Marvellous chap. Mind you, the Renault 'Crashgate' inquiry and subsequent ban as a fit and proper person to own a football club led to Amit stepping in and appointing Warnock...
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 6, 2023 15:22:25 GMT
But he got things done, and even Del Boy loves a chandelier 😉
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 6, 2023 17:39:26 GMT
Loved the Venables era. It was a fantastic time for the club and fans but times change and so has football. That’s not to say we shouldn’t constantly strive for success and maybe one day we’ll return to those halcyon days. But all the while I try and remain realistic. If you didn’t enjoy the Holloway era and seem unable to enjoy anything about being a fan now other than success then I truly feel for you. Yeah that first Olly period was good but we had 35,000 crammed in when we were really good.... proper bear pit. Plus we played football. That was like 74, 75 and the Sexton era. People who were bought up on that naturally find the idea of your Ollies and GAs managing the club a bit.... shit, frankly. Because it showed what you could do with a club like ours. You just need to make the right decisions at the top of the club. We simply haven't done that for years. Trouble is it’s a different game now from when we were really good. We used to beat Arse, they weren’t on another planet like these days. If we’d had a stadium like White hart Lane we wouldn’t have got 60k coming through the gates. We were a little club who made it big but couldn’t keep up with the way the game kept going. Let’s hope we have our day again sometime but we are never going to be a big club, always up there.
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 6, 2023 17:47:16 GMT
Jim Gregory turned water into wine.
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Post by Shania on Oct 6, 2023 18:31:02 GMT
Jim Gregory turned water into wine. But did also sell Paul Goddard way too early. Still a very good club owner no doubt about it.
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Post by Hitman34 on Oct 6, 2023 18:47:09 GMT
Jim Gregory turned water into wine. And Fernandes turned wine into diarrhoea
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 6, 2023 18:58:57 GMT
Jim Gregory turned water into wine. But did also sell Paul Goddard way too early. Still a very good club owner no doubt about it. He did build a stand as a result, but, yes.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 6, 2023 19:08:52 GMT
But did also sell Paul Goddard way too early. Still a very good club owner no doubt about it. He did build a stand as a result, but, yes. Christ that’s impressive a stand on his own, joey deacon only built a few bungalow’s for blue Peter
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