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Post by spongeparr on Dec 26, 2023 21:56:46 GMT
Starting 11 is good. Back ups aren't.
But you can't play best 11 every game so you have to switch it up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 10:22:08 GMT
Is anyone else starting to feel that he is the right man at the wrong time and we'd have been better off with someone who knows this division like the back of their hands?
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Post by Rangers77 on Dec 27, 2023 10:28:45 GMT
Is anyone else starting to feel that he is the right man at the wrong time and we'd have been better off with someone who knows this division like the back of their hands? Hell's fire...... |
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Post by BrightonR on Dec 27, 2023 10:31:37 GMT
Fuck it, let's sack him then. odd response ginge? Who has suggested calling for his head? I’m guessing it’s just a bit of mild sarcasm mate.😂 |
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 27, 2023 10:31:49 GMT
Is anyone else starting to feel that he is the right man at the wrong time and we'd have been better off with someone who knows this division like the back of their hands? A little bit but this lot have form for downing tools and not performing so not sure any manager could do any better. Need to get rid of so many players but obviously that costs money and then more to replace so for me probably no. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 27, 2023 10:33:11 GMT
The right man for the job of keeping us up was Warnock. If they had been reading Shania’s posts - sorry, I mean if Marti really was on their radar it would have made sense to do a deal with him to come in the summer. That said, I’m glad he’s here and I think he’ll turn it around……if we get a half decent fucking striker - who also plays without the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 10:36:16 GMT
Is anyone else starting to feel that he is the right man at the wrong time and we'd have been better off with someone who knows this division like the back of their hands? A little bit but this lot have form for downing tools and not performing so not sure any manager could do any better. Need to get rid of so many players but obviously that costs money and then more to replace so for me probably no. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating sacking him. He IS the right man and I believe he will rebuild us in League One to an extent that I have no doubt we'll come back stronger. I'm just worried that it is the wrong time for him to be here now. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 27, 2023 10:38:46 GMT
A little bit but this lot have form for downing tools and not performing so not sure any manager could do any better. Need to get rid of so many players but obviously that costs money and then more to replace so for me probably no. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating sacking him. He IS the right man and I believe he will rebuild us in League One to an extent that I have no doubt we'll come back stronger. I'm just worried that it is the wrong time for him to be here now. Yea I see where you’re coming from and it’s hard to disagree He comes across as a manager that knows the game and tactically could be very astute at times but, now is not the time for him to display that as we’re in a dog fight and that may not be where he’s at his strongest. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 27, 2023 10:56:35 GMT
If we get relegated there’ll be no bounce back, the decline of our club will continue. Smaller gates, even less income. Fewer kids interested in going to our training facility. No one on the books ready to step up to replace the first teamers who will leave. Plenty of teams coming here determined to turn over a ‘big’ club. And we’d still be stuck with fucking Dykes at CF😂
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 27, 2023 11:01:12 GMT
If we get relegated there’ll be no bounce back, the decline of our club will continue. Smaller gates, even less income. Fewer kids interested in going to our training facility. No one on the books ready to step up to replace the first teamers who will leave. Plenty of teams coming here determined to turn over a ‘big’ club. And we’d still be stuck with fucking Dykes at CF😂 All true unfortunately except the last line. Ironically, I can see that useless prick getting a plum move somewhere. As mentioned he gets cut slack for his Scotland goals. That would be sickening. |
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Post by Bill on Dec 27, 2023 11:13:23 GMT
If we get relegated there’ll be no bounce back, the decline of our club will continue. Smaller gates, even less income. Fewer kids interested in going to our training facility. No one on the books ready to step up to replace the first teamers who will leave. Plenty of teams coming here determined to turn over a ‘big’ club. And we’d still be stuck with fucking Dykes at CF😂 All true unfortunately except the last line. Ironically, I can see that useless prick getting a plum move somewhere. As mentioned he gets cut slack for his Scotland goals. That would be sickening. Said this for ages. Board you reap what you sow. Slide is well and truly on and could end up like Scunthorpe. 62 years and this,heartbroken is an understatement. Not paying to see this crap anymore. |
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Post by acricketer on Dec 27, 2023 11:36:42 GMT
If we get relegated there’ll be no bounce back, the decline of our club will continue. Smaller gates, even less income. Fewer kids interested in going to our training facility. No one on the books ready to step up to replace the first teamers who will leave. Plenty of teams coming here determined to turn over a ‘big’ club. And we’d still be stuck with fucking Dykes at CF😂 I think we'll be heading the way of Charlton. |
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Post by Shania on Dec 27, 2023 11:39:45 GMT
We have to sell whoever it is to get out of this mess and I also feel there are a few bad apples in this quad we need to get rid of ....
Field, Chair, Willock, Dykes and Armstrong are all players we should cash in on now. None of them are irreplaceable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 11:40:21 GMT
If we get relegated there’ll be no bounce back, the decline of our club will continue. Smaller gates, even less income. Fewer kids interested in going to our training facility. No one on the books ready to step up to replace the first teamers who will leave. Plenty of teams coming here determined to turn over a ‘big’ club. And we’d still be stuck with fucking Dykes at CF😂 I think we'll be heading the way of Charlton. We could go down again next year if MC walks or is pushed... League One is a lot tougher than many realise and we'll need to rebuild as well. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Dec 27, 2023 11:59:53 GMT
If we had a better squad, rotation would be exactly the right policy but he doesn’t seem to realise that British players are used to a manic Christmas period and should be fit enough to play twice a week. Also he changes the personnel quite a bit but not the tactics - eg where’s the false 9 experiment by now? Nothing to lose surely?
That said he is not blessed with choices - eg I have been screaming about his continued selection of Dozzell but in fairness where the fuck is Colback? Could we give a trial to Ejaria and see if he could be got fit to play in midfield? Just an idea
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 6, 2024 19:36:06 GMT
Marti can only work with the tools he's been given, but if they're blunt what could any manager in the world do with them? It's not like he can just replace them with U23/21 players as it seems we've established they're not good enough either.
Which brings us to the January window - 6 days in now, not even a rumour of a signing, and at this rate we'll be cut adrift soon.
So where do we go from here? Resign ourselves to the inevitable and start preparing for next season in League 1? Or can we hope for a signing or two to rescue this season?
I'm with Alan and Bill in that if we go down I can envisage us staying down for a long time.
Posting this in the Marti thread as don't think it's fair to blame him for our predicament, despite the temptation to.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 6, 2024 19:41:05 GMT
Marti can only work with the tools he's been given, but if they're blunt what could any manager in the world do with them? It's not like he can just replace them with U23/21 players as it seems we've established they're not good enough either. Which brings us to the January window - 6 days in now, not even a rumour of a signing, and at this rate we'll be cut adrift soon. So where do we go from here? Resign ourselves to the inevitable and start preparing for next season in League 1? Or can we hope for a signing or two to rescue this season? I'm with Alan and Bill in that if we go down I can envisage us staying down for a long time. Posting this in the Marti thread as don't think it's fair to blame him for our predicament, despite the temptation to. Mate said today was like Non League playing Division One team years ago. He's right. But without the courage and fight. I have no idea where we go from here. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 6, 2024 20:01:51 GMT
Marti can only work with the tools he's been given, but if they're blunt what could any manager in the world do with them? It's not like he can just replace them with U23/21 players as it seems we've established they're not good enough either. Which brings us to the January window - 6 days in now, not even a rumour of a signing, and at this rate we'll be cut adrift soon. So where do we go from here? Resign ourselves to the inevitable and start preparing for next season in League 1? Or can we hope for a signing or two to rescue this season? I'm with Alan and Bill in that if we go down I can envisage us staying down for a long time. Posting this in the Marti thread as don't think it's fair to blame him for our predicament, despite the temptation to. Mate said today was like Non League playing Division One team years ago. He's right. But without the courage and fight. I have no idea where we go from here. decind half but not first |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 6, 2024 20:13:44 GMT
Feel for the guy as in 2 months we have built a style of play and that is after him taking over from the worst manager I have seen in my lifetime. He also inherited absolute shit and the board seem to be ok with us just continually dropping. Hoos in charge is not good for us on a football front and if we gp down it will not be good off the pitch as well. Real shame as I think he has something about him and wish we had got him instead of Beale as 100% certain we would be much more stable and would have sold a playdr for good money by now
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 7, 2024 0:35:49 GMT
Whatever happens, whatever league we are in, I hope and pray he's still our manager. Some strange decisions recently but I've put that down to him desperately trying to get something out of players that just aren't good enough.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 7, 2024 0:36:32 GMT
Telling comment about the club knowing what he wants but he’s using the tools he has got. (And we have got a few tools😁) Yeah I picked up on that too. Sounds like he's gone to the board and said right, we need this, this and this, and the board have basically told him he'll have to do the best he can with what he has. They aren't going to back him. Sounds like another case of case of "not what it said on the brochure". |
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Post by Vespa on Jan 7, 2024 1:26:34 GMT
without stating the bleeding obvious ( yet again ) we NEED a poacher , a man with an eye for goal , someone who is in instinctively in the right place at the right time , obviously from a lower division , we need that desperately .
Our league position is not Martis fault ,it is the boards fault , and even though i hated Gareths football ,i don`t even blame him .
If / when we go down , i believe in Marti`s style of football and hope he is still our manager next season ,no matter what
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Post by Vespa on Jan 7, 2024 1:30:48 GMT
I think we'll be heading the way of Charlton. We could go down again next year if MC walks or is pushed... League One is a lot tougher than many realise and we'll need to rebuild as well. lets pray that doesn`t happen , we can rebuild ( when can we spend again ? what with ffp , i`m always confused about that ! ) |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 7, 2024 1:50:55 GMT
We could go down again next year if MC walks or is pushed... League One is a lot tougher than many realise and we'll need to rebuild as well. lets pray that doesn`t happen , we can rebuild ( when can we spend again ? what with ffp , i`m always confused about that ! ) I don't know if I'm right but Im under the impression that FFP rules aren't enforced in League One. |
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Post by Vespa on Jan 7, 2024 2:27:10 GMT
lets pray that doesn`t happen , we can rebuild ( when can we spend again ? what with ffp , i`m always confused about that ! ) I don't know if I'm right but Im under the impression that FFP rules aren't enforced in League One. So would that mean the restrictions are cleared and we can crack on ? Surely that cant be the case ,or we would swallow the relegation and start again ? This is what i mean ,no one seams to know for sure , and this has been hanging over us for years |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 7, 2024 8:09:53 GMT
lets pray that doesn`t happen , we can rebuild ( when can we spend again ? what with ffp , i`m always confused about that ! ) I don't know if I'm right but Im under the impression that FFP rules aren't enforced in League One. Ive seen few people say this on twitter but for me its a mute point as im assuming if we did go down the intention would be to get promoted where FFP does apply so what difference does it make? Surely we can just operate effectively now in championship?? this view it’s helpful to go down to operate effectively to then come back and operate effectively is just weird makes no sense to me. Also given how bad this lot were previously with open cheque book it’s a frightening thought regards how much money they would waste if there was no system holding them to account! That really could be the end of the club. |
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Post by Vespa on Jan 7, 2024 10:04:19 GMT
I don't know if I'm right but Im under the impression that FFP rules aren't enforced in League One. Ive seen few people say this on twitter but for me its a mute point as im assuming if we did go down the intention would be to get promoted where FFP does apply so what difference does it make? Surely we can just operate effectively now in championship?? this view it’s helpful to go down to operate effectively to then come back and operate effectively is just weird makes no sense to me. Also given how bad this lot were previously with open cheque book it’s a frightening thought regards how much money they would waste if there was no system holding them to account! That really could be the end of the club. So are we allowed to buy anyone now ? And if we did go down ,would we have FFP wiped out , but if we got promoted would our restrictions be reinstated ? I`m none the wiser ! |
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Post by Shania on Jan 7, 2024 10:16:50 GMT
Ive seen few people say this on twitter but for me its a mute point as im assuming if we did go down the intention would be to get promoted where FFP does apply so what difference does it make? Surely we can just operate effectively now in championship?? this view it’s helpful to go down to operate effectively to then come back and operate effectively is just weird makes no sense to me. Also given how bad this lot were previously with open cheque book it’s a frightening thought regards how much money they would waste if there was no system holding them to account! That really could be the end of the club. So are we allowed to buy anyone now ? And if we did go down ,would we have FFP wiped out , but if we got promoted would our restrictions be reinstated ? I`m none the wiser ! Going down will be the medicine in itself is my impression because we can't be punished twice for the same "offense" |
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Post by Bill on Jan 7, 2024 10:40:07 GMT
When we are relegated club will be sold to the yanks thats why the one on the board is here.
No signings this window and trimming everything that can be trimmed selling rights to stand names to maximise income all of a sudden as well as other strategies which may well involve selling one of if not some players.
Takeover end of season Reuben will shut the door behind him and take what he can get,including a clause in selling that he will get a percentage of ongoing profits,when Loftus rd is sold and becomes apartments and we ground share until a new home is found and built on the cheap.
This is what i heard yesterday and cant reveal source.
The club will be in a better place financailly but in League 1 and without a home eventually.
Reuben quote "we want to leave the club in a better place".
That phrase is open to interpretation.
Think he meant financial footing all be it without a home and in League 1 or worse.
Like Mk Dons ?
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Post by Vespa on Jan 7, 2024 12:27:01 GMT
When we are relegated club will be sold to the yanks thats why the one on the board is here. No signings this window and trimming everything that can be trimmed selling rights to stand names to maximise income all of a sudden as well as other strategies which may well involve selling one of if not some players. Takeover end of season Reuben will shut the door behind him and take what he can get,including a clause in selling that he will get a percentage of ongoing profits,when Loftus rd is sold and becomes apartments and we ground share until a new home is found and built on the cheap. This is what i heard yesterday and cant reveal source. The club will be in a better place financailly but in League 1 and without a home eventually. Reuben quote "we want to leave the club in a better place". That phrase is open to interpretation. Think he meant financial footing all be it without a home and in League 1 or worse. Like Mk Dons ? Well , thats cheered me up |
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