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Post by stainrodisalegend on Nov 28, 2023 11:54:03 GMT
"Terry Venables: QPR boss Marti Cifuentes wants to replicate Venables' attacking game"
He talks well but when he says "if you create more chances than the other team you will win football matches" it does make me wonder if he has seen enough videos of Dyches in particular and our matches in general...  But encouraging he seems to take on board that we need to create more chances... |
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Post by acricketer on Nov 28, 2023 12:02:35 GMT
If he's sticking with Dykes the rest of our strikers must be little donkeys.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Nov 28, 2023 12:13:02 GMT
If he's sticking with Dykes the rest of our strikers must be little donkeys. We know they are. |
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Post by The General on Nov 28, 2023 12:16:14 GMT
Unless he has a clause in his contract
Must be first choice if fit
I think this may be the case
Why he’s never dropped for 3 years
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Post by 2Loftus on Nov 28, 2023 12:25:38 GMT
Think we’ll get something out of tonight’s game. Quietly optimistic. Not aimed at you and I guess its just as well the fanbase remains optimistic but every single match thread over the last year we haven't won at home I could probably find posters saying "I'm feeling optimistic." Its the nature of being a fan - a fanatic I guess. I admire the optimism. Got to say my optimism is proving harder to find...
Completely understand. I guess my optimism is a case of more in hope than expectation.
But we need to start picking up points and Stoke at home is the kind of game where we simply have to get something if we're going to stay up. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 28, 2023 12:40:02 GMT
If he's sticking with Dykes the rest of our strikers must be little donkeys. very appropriate and festive given the time of year Used to love singing little donkey at school |
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Post by sparks on Nov 28, 2023 13:09:14 GMT
Think we’ll get something out of tonight’s game. Quietly optimistic. Not aimed at you and I guess its just as well the fanbase remains optimistic but every single match thread over the last year we haven't won at home I could probably find posters saying "I'm feeling optimistic." It’s the nature of being a fan - a fanatic I guess. I admire the optimism. Got to say my optimism is proving harder to find... I’m still genuinely optimistic about our chances of winning tonights match even with Donkey playing. Ciffuentes has clearly made a pretty solid start to his tenure here, and perhaps most importantly the players appear to like him. I would guess any manager coming from another country would be making the same quotes about trying to help Donkey find some form. It would not surprise me when Donkey fails to score again tonight an injury appears to keep him out for the next few matches. Would have to admit if the 3 crabs in MF are selected instead of Bonner my patience will be wearing quite thin. |
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Post by 2Loftus on Nov 28, 2023 13:12:36 GMT
If he's sticking with Dykes the rest of our strikers must be little donkeys. very appropriate and festive given the time of year Used to love singing little donkey at school
Also festive at Easter, so pretty much an all-year thing... |
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Post by Hitman34 on Nov 28, 2023 13:15:14 GMT
Re find!!!! Fuck off Marti. Just drop the useless cant |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Nov 28, 2023 13:55:11 GMT
Not aimed at you and I guess its just as well the fanbase remains optimistic but every single match thread over the last year we haven't won at home I could probably find posters saying "I'm feeling optimistic." It’s the nature of being a fan - a fanatic I guess. I admire the optimism. Got to say my optimism is proving harder to find... I’m still genuinely optimistic about our chances of winning tonights match even with Donkey playing. Ciffuentes has clearly made a pretty solid start to his tenure here, and perhaps most importantly the players appear to like him. I would guess any manager coming from another country would be making the same quotes about trying to help Donkey find some form. It would not surprise me when Donkey fails to score again tonight an injury appears to keep him out for the next few matches. Would have to admit if the 3 crabs in MF are selected instead of Bonner my patience will be wearing quite thin. I take the points you and 2Loftus make Sparks, great you can both remain optimistic. Goes without saying I hope you are right. With a very poor hand I think Marti is doing a decent job and he has all the right instincts. But he probably has a fairly narrow window to at least stop the bleeding and consistently get draws, even if wins/ goals remain beyond us. Its right to go into every game saying "we expect to win and we are going to win" but if he isn't able to back that up fairly soon it starts to read a bit like all that nonsense from Gareth Ainsworth ("we are building something really special here" was a personal favourite). Probably an unfair comparison because at least Marti is trying to do the right things, but when player confidence is already so shallow... |
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Post by spongeparr on Nov 28, 2023 15:59:52 GMT
0-0 all over this one. Hope I am wrong and we score a couple but I think we'll stay solid, but not get the ball in the net.
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Post by The General on Nov 28, 2023 16:53:05 GMT
We need to win
Fuck the draws
We are in a relegation battle already
Dykes step up you cunt or piss off
If he doesn’t turn up boo him off the pitch
Turn up or get out of Qpr goes to all players
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Post by Hitman34 on Nov 28, 2023 17:02:54 GMT
We need to win Fuck the draws We are in a relegation battle already Dykes step up you cunt or piss off If he doesn’t turn up boo him off the pitch Turn up or get out of Qpr goes to all players Been booing the cunt for the past 2 years. Will continue tonight General |
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Post by 1qprdk on Nov 28, 2023 17:19:26 GMT
What is it about Dykes that seems to bamboozle managers into believing he's worth persevering with? The one thing that I have to give Beale credit for is that he dropped Dykes and thus achieved his best results. With the attention to detail that Marti brings, I would have thought he would have discovered this fact, but it seems not. And if he persists with Dykes, I think we all know it isn't going to work out. He never has and never will deliver. In a sense, you could say that the Dykes conundrum is responsible for the ongoing failure of this team. And frighteningly, it could bring down Marti too, unless he works it out pronto. I think that's not quite accurate. Dykes featured in every league game under Mick Eel. Missed less than a quarter of each match on average. Must be collective memory loss here, as others have said similar.🤷♂️ |
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Post by 1qprdk on Nov 28, 2023 17:29:33 GMT
But I've had enough of Dykes now. Let's get a win tonight. U R's.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 28, 2023 18:09:06 GMT
What is it about Dykes that seems to bamboozle managers into believing he's worth persevering with? The one thing that I have to give Beale credit for is that he dropped Dykes and thus achieved his best results. With the attention to detail that Marti brings, I would have thought he would have discovered this fact, but it seems not. And if he persists with Dykes, I think we all know it isn't going to work out. He never has and never will deliver. In a sense, you could say that the Dykes conundrum is responsible for the ongoing failure of this team. And frighteningly, it could bring down Marti too, unless he works it out pronto. I think that's not quite accurate. Dykes featured in every league game under Mick Eel. Missed less than a quarter of each match on average. Must be collective memory loss here, as others have said similar.🤷♂️ glad someone else has picked up on this as it was not my memory that Beale changed system and dropped him but majority of Rangers fans think this across all of social media. Beale had 21 league games and Dykes started all but four of them and came off the bench in the others. He was absolutely a Beale man. Another example of Beale bizarrely being credited with stuff he never actually done. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 28, 2023 18:09:21 GMT
But I've had enough of Dykes now. Let's get a win tonight. U R's. here here |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 28, 2023 18:26:26 GMT
I think that's not quite accurate. Dykes featured in every league game under Mick Eel. Missed less than a quarter of each match on average. Must be collective memory loss here, as others have said similar.🤷♂️ glad someone else has picked up on this as it was not my memory that Beale changed system and dropped him but majority of Rangers fans think this across all of social media. Beale had 21 league games and Dykes started all but four of them and came off the bench in the others. He was absolutely a Beale man. Another example of Beale bizarrely being credited with stuff he never actually done. True but he also had Dykes scoring goals during that period. |
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 28, 2023 18:28:11 GMT
I think that's not quite accurate. Dykes featured in every league game under Mick Eel. Missed less than a quarter of each match on average. Must be collective memory loss here, as others have said similar.🤷♂️ Beale had 21 league games and Dykes started all but four of them and came off the bench in the others. He was absolutely a Beale man. But Beale still dropped him in the first place.... just saying. No recent manager apart from Beale has relegated a fit Dykes to the bench. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Nov 28, 2023 18:31:15 GMT
What is it about Dykes that seems to bamboozle managers into believing he's worth persevering with? The one thing that I have to give Beale credit for is that he dropped Dykes and thus achieved his best results. With the attention to detail that Marti brings, I would have thought he would have discovered this fact, but it seems not. And if he persists with Dykes, I think we all know it isn't going to work out. He never has and never will deliver. In a sense, you could say that the Dykes conundrum is responsible for the ongoing failure of this team. And frighteningly, it could bring down Marti too, unless he works it out pronto. I think that's not quite accurate. Dykes featured in every league game under Mick Eel. Missed less than a quarter of each match on average. Must be collective memory loss here, as others have said similar.🤷♂️ Seems to be a common myth. We all know Dykes is useless but you can't blame him for our winless run when options are Armstrong who doesn't know where the goal is and Kelman who doesn't know where the ball is. If we had dropped Dykes I'm pretty sure we would have about the same amount of points as we have now. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 28, 2023 18:32:47 GMT
glad someone else has picked up on this as it was not my memory that Beale changed system and dropped him but majority of Rangers fans think this across all of social media. Beale had 21 league games and Dykes started all but four of them and came off the bench in the others. He was absolutely a Beale man. Another example of Beale bizarrely being credited with stuff he never actually done. True but he also had Dykes scoring goals during that period. but that’s not the point that’s being made regularly Stan. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 18:33:11 GMT
If he's sticking with Dykes the rest of our strikers must be little donkeys. As I said during the week, there's not a coach on Earth who wouldn't give our all time top goalscorer among current players at least a handful of matches to prove himself. We're now up to match 4. If he stays after Saturday and still hasn't shown an improvement we can see quite clearly what he thinks of alternatives and we can expect those to be shipped out at the earliest chance. |
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 28, 2023 18:37:04 GMT
I think that's not quite accurate. Dykes featured in every league game under Mick Eel. Missed less than a quarter of each match on average. Must be collective memory loss here, as others have said similar.🤷♂️ We all know Dykes is useless but you can't blame him for our winless run when options are Armstrong who doesn't know where the goal is and Kelman who doesn't know where the ball is. If we had dropped Dykes I'm pretty sure we would have about the same amount of points as we have now. Like I said, I'd play Kolli in a front line of three with neither Dykes nor Armstrong involved. He aint the messiah but his positional sense and skill level is ahead of those two. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 28, 2023 18:37:47 GMT
Beale had 21 league games and Dykes started all but four of them and came off the bench in the others. He was absolutely a Beale man. But Beale still dropped him in the first place.... just saying. No recent manager apart from Beale has relegated a fit Dykes to the bench. pretty sure Warburton dropped him when Austin first came back for certain games. Plus argument seems to be that Beale dropped him and transformed the style/attack with this mythical false nine plan. Well that myth was four games in which he still came on and played a part! It’s all rubbish Hal. Anyways he’s still shit and we probably all be going mental about how shit he is in 90mins time. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 28, 2023 18:40:59 GMT
Where I have seen improvement since Marti arrived and what I want to see more of tonight which will be effective is getting more people in the box when we attack and people arriving late edge of the box.
We’ve not seen that enough in way to long but it’s happening now. We recently have had 3s and 4s inbox so if we can improve the delivery it will pay dividends.
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Post by jfrabbit on Nov 28, 2023 18:46:23 GMT
Dykes again ffs!!!!
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Post by Corbray on Nov 28, 2023 18:46:47 GMT
Where I have seen improvement since Marti arrived and what I want to see more of tonight which will be effective is getting more people in the box when we attack and people arriving late edge of the box. We’ve not seen that enough in way to long but it’s happening now. We recently have had 3s and 4s inbox so if we can improve the delivery it will pay dividends. agree but i also think that one of the reasons why delivery is so poor is because theres no one to really get on the end of a through ball or cross so guys like chair and willock attempt to go it alone |
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Post by jfrabbit on Nov 28, 2023 18:47:07 GMT
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Nov 28, 2023 18:48:59 GMT
Not a fan of him dropping Willock and keeping that cunt Dykes on.
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Post by Corbray on Nov 28, 2023 18:49:03 GMT
nice to see EDB get another start. lad has earned it, dozzell must be injured though sadly (feels weird saying that)
ffs at dykes again though, i was hoping someone like gavin ward or paul hall would be given a run up top just to try something different...
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