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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 1, 2024 17:11:29 GMT
Time to make our displeasure known. Long past time. Tear those fucks a new one. Cheer Marty, but boo them. Start Saturday. There's no way we don't lose.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 1, 2024 17:27:18 GMT
Completely agree. The board HAVE to back Marti this month. There is no other choice or we go down with a whimper. Simple as that.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 1, 2024 17:27:40 GMT
We actually don't have a board to boo. Ruben merely writes a monthly check and the CEO, an employee, is the acting chairman. And there's no DoF.
Clown club.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 1, 2024 17:28:33 GMT
Fucking hell, you're right. So who's in charge of the transfers then? Has to be Hoos right?
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Post by oldr on Jan 1, 2024 17:30:33 GMT
We could have had a new signing announced today, the fact we didn't worries me and makes me think that we haven't any lined up at the moment...
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 1, 2024 17:38:47 GMT
Why does Ramsey get a free pass after so long here?
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 1, 2024 17:39:45 GMT
And Hall. On the bench as managers come and managers go.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 1, 2024 17:43:28 GMT
The king of keepy uppy
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 1, 2024 18:11:59 GMT
Why does Ramsey get a free pass after so long here? Agreed and re hall. I don’t even know what their jobs are supposed to be because whatever it is they aren’t doing them very well
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 1, 2024 19:36:07 GMT
Don’t think booing the players helps. In fairness think they mostly tried except possibly Dozzell but they just aren’t good enough - booing them only makes them even worse.
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Post by James1979 on Jan 1, 2024 20:16:34 GMT
Don’t think booing the players helps. In fairness think they mostly tried except possibly Dozzell but they just aren’t good enough - booing them only makes them even worse. Agree. Just lack of ability and talent. It’s the recruitment and coaches that have been here for years that need sacking
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Post by sparks on Jan 1, 2024 20:23:03 GMT
There’s an article on Twitter where Marti is encouraging the fans to boo the players.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 1, 2024 20:40:36 GMT
Good. I hope he's including us voicing our concerns to the board in that too, maybe just maybe they'll listen and do something this month.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 2, 2024 8:54:32 GMT
Why does Ramsey get a free pass after so long here? And Hall. On the bench as managers come and managers go. And Andy Belk Why these three are still in a job at QPR after all these years is beyond me! What have they actually achieved of any significance? And how many perpetual failures have they presided over? Moreover, we've been calling for these to go for literally years.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 2, 2024 13:01:24 GMT
Why does Ramsey get a free pass after so long here? And Hall. On the bench as managers come and managers go. And Andy Belk Why these three are still in a job at QPR after all these years is beyond me! What have they actually achieved of any significance? And how many perpetual failures have they presided over? Moreover, we've been calling for these to go for literally years. Not much. But we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. We operate a policy of "what the manager wants, the manager gets". So Ainsworth allowed to recruit the likes of Colback and that reserve defender from Stoke whose name I can't even remember because we have heard so little of him. For all we know Belk has been suggesting brilliant young players but we just plunge from one crisis and short term fix to the next so go for the 34-year-old on a two year contract instead. I mean, Belk might be useless but think the fundamental problem lies higher up.
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Post by sparks on Jan 2, 2024 13:18:57 GMT
And Andy Belk Why these three are still in a job at QPR after all these years is beyond me! What have they actually achieved of any significance? And how many perpetual failures have they presided over? Moreover, we've been calling for these to go for literally years. Not much. But we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. We operate a policy of "what the manager wants, the manager gets". So Ainsworth allowed to recruit the likes of Colback and that reserve defender from Stoke whose name I can't even remember because we have heard so little of him. For all we know Belk has been suggesting brilliant young players but we just plunge from one crisis and short term fix to the next so go for the 34-year-old on a two year contract instead. I mean, Belk might be useless but think the fundamental problem lies higher up. Problem is you need clued up football savvy owners for a competent DOF to work properly.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 2, 2024 13:30:05 GMT
Not much. But we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. We operate a policy of "what the manager wants, the manager gets". So Ainsworth allowed to recruit the likes of Colback and that reserve defender from Stoke whose name I can't even remember because we have heard so little of him. For all we know Belk has been suggesting brilliant young players but we just plunge from one crisis and short term fix to the next so go for the 34-year-old on a two year contract instead. I mean, Belk might be useless but think the fundamental problem lies higher up. Problem is you need clued up football savvy owners for a competent DOF to work properly. Either that or let the DoF get on with it. My approach would have been to pick up more of the Dixon-Bonners (like we did with Eze): if you can't develop your own, take the discards from the big boys and make them better. In fairness aspects of recruitment have improved - Paal and Cannon both decent players for our level picked up for free. Arguably the bigger problem has been the established players we have signed: Colback, Fox, Dozzell, Dykes, Johansen, Austin - all absolutely terrible, and quite expensive.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 2, 2024 17:53:55 GMT
One 35 year old kept us up last season and has already scored more than Dykes will get this season. Ok, in League One but think he could have been a decent squad player given we’ve not got a lot else.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 2, 2024 19:29:00 GMT
One 35 year old kept us up last season and has already scored more than Dykes will get this season. Ok, in League One but think he could have been a decent squad player given we’ve not got a lot else. Agreed - someone posted his stats the other day and it was soemthing like one goal in three - not exactly Mo Salah but light and day compared to what we have
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Post by sparks on Jan 2, 2024 19:31:22 GMT
When I think about Marti first half front 3 selection of Larkache Dykes Smyth, then add in Bonner playing deep and Cannon and Smyth holding the same position high up the pitch with next to no possession down that side that’s on the manager.
I defy any poster on here that would make the same mistakes Marti did yesterday.
I would rather boo the manager than any of the players for that.
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Post by Bill on Jan 2, 2024 19:33:25 GMT
Why does Ramsey get a free pass after so long here? And Hall. On the bench as managers come and managers go. And Andy Belk Why these three are still in a job at QPR after all these years is beyond me! What have they actually achieved of any significance? And how many perpetual failures have they presided over? Moreover, we've been calling for these to go for literally years. The facts are the club is being run into the ground,which most on here know has been my suspicion for a couple of years. Briefly when it appeared Marti was turning it round i had doubts about the above. If no so called signings are made this window of a quality that could keep us up it tells me there is no duty of care disrespecting the fans and we are just a means to an end. Reality is that we may have to go down to comeback but probably never to the heights we have reached before. What this boards agenda is nobody actually knows other than them. Reuben in a fans meeting made a statement that he would like to leave the club in a better place than when he joined. As of now that seems to be bullshit,Ferdinand milked the club and left,Bhatia whilst seeming likeable has gone,Hoos with his american brawl adds another level of bullshit or lies to the scenario. I think we will go down with a wimper,what hapoens after that nobody knows. I just know the signs are not encouraging and that is a very generous observation.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 2, 2024 20:14:26 GMT
Would take a lot for me to boo at a match. Whatever the reason, I don't believe for one minute that it motivates anyone to improve their attitude or game - and almost certainly has the opposite effect.
Booing now with a new manager in place, well that's just ridiculous.
And I'm not sure how individual players, the team as a whole or the manager will differentiate between boos aimed at on, the other, or all collectively.
Destructive and pointless.
We're in the shit right now and everyone needs uplifting. Whatever happened to the crowd as '12th man'?
Maybe the Loft needs to change the song:
"Rangers til I die, I'm Rangers til I die, I know I am, I'm sure I am, I'm Rangers til I die!"
to...
"I'm Rangers for today, But at a poor display, I'll boo and hiss, And take the piss, And stay the fuck away."
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 2, 2024 20:15:00 GMT
And Andy Belk Why these three are still in a job at QPR after all these years is beyond me! What have they actually achieved of any significance? And how many perpetual failures have they presided over? Moreover, we've been calling for these to go for literally years. The facts are the club is being run into the ground,which most on here know has been my suspicion for a couple of years. Briefly when it appeared Marti was turning it round i had doubts about the above. If no so called signings are made this window of a quality that could keep us up it tells me there is no duty of care disrespecting the fans and we are just a means to an end. Reality is that we may have to go down to comeback but probably never to the heights we have reached before. What this boards agenda is nobody actually knows other than them. Reuben in a fans meeting made a statement that he would like to leave the club in a better place than when he joined. As of now that seems to be bullshit,Ferdinand milked the club and left,Bhatia whilst seeming likeable has gone,Hoos with his american brawl adds another level of bullshit or lies to the scenario. I think we will go down with a wimper,what hapoens after that nobody knows. I just know the signs are not encouraging and that is a very generous observation. Not sure Fernandez “milked” the club Bill. He lost hundreds of millions of quid! He might be the dumbest billionaire to ever walk the planet and the most incompetent owner of a football club on record but if anything he was too honest and naive for his (and our) own good
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Post by Bill on Jan 2, 2024 22:05:36 GMT
The facts are the club is being run into the ground,which most on here know has been my suspicion for a couple of years. Briefly when it appeared Marti was turning it round i had doubts about the above. If no so called signings are made this window of a quality that could keep us up it tells me there is no duty of care disrespecting the fans and we are just a means to an end. Reality is that we may have to go down to comeback but probably never to the heights we have reached before. What this boards agenda is nobody actually knows other than them. Reuben in a fans meeting made a statement that he would like to leave the club in a better place than when he joined. As of now that seems to be bullshit,Ferdinand milked the club and left,Bhatia whilst seeming likeable has gone,Hoos with his american brawl adds another level of bullshit or lies to the scenario. I think we will go down with a wimper,what hapoens after that nobody knows. I just know the signs are not encouraging and that is a very generous observation. Not sure Fernandez “milked” the club Bill. He lost hundreds of millions of quid! He might be the dumbest billionaire to ever walk the planet and the most incompetent owner of a football club on record but if anything he was too honest and naive for his (and our) own good I posted Ferdinand,nothing about Fat Tony.
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Post by Corbray on Jan 3, 2024 0:05:41 GMT
ferdinand left back in may irc, jimmy had spilled the beans much earlier than that so i suspect it was decided that les wouldn't be staying much earlier than when jimmy found out. its all complete silence on the DOF front, is hoos the DOF? is belk? what is going on in that regard? have we not appointed one due to FFP?
it just feels like theres no clear vision for the club. we had a vision 2 or 3 seasons ago but after the debacle of last season it comes across like the board are at a loss on what to do and have seemingly given up.
a good DOF is arguebly more important to the modern game than a manager is.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 3, 2024 6:48:45 GMT
The football club has operated in such a poor way since 2011 and that is factual. Our recruitment has been the one constant thing that has left us where we are today. PL first 2 seasons under Fernandes lit the flames and they are still burning today. Not 1 single player from that time returned a profit to the club and in some cases cost us huge amounts to pay off. Then we have the Ferdinand years of yet more awful signings in the transfer market and our two young strikers in Bonne and Washington were also paid off. The only period and manager who recruited well and made us a profit was under Holloway where Eze and Freeman brought a nice profit on both transfers. Am I right in saying that at that time Gary Penrice was working as a scout for us? The clubs model of buying young and selling has failed miserably which tells me the major issue at the club is the area of recruitnent so based on the above that needs ripping up and replaced with people that can find players for us to move on at the right time and show a profit.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 3, 2024 9:31:57 GMT
The football club has operated in such a poor way since 2011 and that is factual. Our recruitment has been the one constant thing that has left us where we are today. PL first 2 seasons under Fernandes lit the flames and they are still burning today. Not 1 single player from that time returned a profit to the club and in some cases cost us huge amounts to pay off. Then we have the Ferdinand years of yet more awful signings in the transfer market and our two young strikers in Bonne and Washington were also paid off. The only period and manager who recruited well and made us a profit was under Holloway where Eze and Freeman brought a nice profit on both transfers. Am I right in saying that at that time Gary Penrice was working as a scout for us? The clubs model of buying young and selling has failed miserably which tells me the major issue at the club is the area of recruitment so based on the above that needs ripping up and replaced with people that can find players for us to move on at the right time and show a profit. Andrew Belk - QPR FC - 15 yrs 6 mos
Head of Performance Analysis Aug 2008 - Dec 2015 · 7 yrs 5 mos Recruitment Analyst & Scouting Coordinator Dec 2015 - Dec 2019 · 4 yrs 1 mo Head Of Recruitment Jan 2020 - Present · 4 yrs 1 mo www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-belk12
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 3, 2024 9:57:44 GMT
After every game we are all the Head of Performance Analysis. Before every game too.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 3, 2024 10:29:31 GMT
The football club has operated in such a poor way since 2011 and that is factual. Our recruitment has been the one constant thing that has left us where we are today. PL first 2 seasons under Fernandes lit the flames and they are still burning today. Not 1 single player from that time returned a profit to the club and in some cases cost us huge amounts to pay off. Then we have the Ferdinand years of yet more awful signings in the transfer market and our two young strikers in Bonne and Washington were also paid off. The only period and manager who recruited well and made us a profit was under Holloway where Eze and Freeman brought a nice profit on both transfers. Am I right in saying that at that time Gary Penrice was working as a scout for us? The clubs model of buying young and selling has failed miserably which tells me the major issue at the club is the area of recruitnent so based on the above that needs ripping up and replaced with people that can find players for us to move on at the right time and show a profit. And player development - we don’t, we just keep people too long who hardly figure on match days, if at all. Gubbins, Oteh and Shodipo spring immediately to mind, there must be others and Drewe will be joining the list soon. Honestly, when was the last time we saw a young player and thought yes, he’s got something? Eze, in ten years.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 3, 2024 10:51:43 GMT
The football club has operated in such a poor way since 2011 and that is factual. Our recruitment has been the one constant thing that has left us where we are today. PL first 2 seasons under Fernandes lit the flames and they are still burning today. Not 1 single player from that time returned a profit to the club and in some cases cost us huge amounts to pay off. Then we have the Ferdinand years of yet more awful signings in the transfer market and our two young strikers in Bonne and Washington were also paid off. The only period and manager who recruited well and made us a profit was under Holloway where Eze and Freeman brought a nice profit on both transfers. Am I right in saying that at that time Gary Penrice was working as a scout for us? The clubs model of buying young and selling has failed miserably which tells me the major issue at the club is the area of recruitnent so based on the above that needs ripping up and replaced with people that can find players for us to move on at the right time and show a profit. And player development - we don’t, we just keep people too long who hardly figure on match days, if at all. Gubbins, Oteh and Shodipo spring immediately to mind, there must be others and Drewe will be joining the list soon. Honestly, when was the last time we saw a young player and thought yes, he’s got something? Eze, in ten years. no, I haven’t forgotten Armstrong but the only reason he’s still here is because we’ve got no one else. There’s no way he’d have ‘broken through’ by now given how limited his game is. Kolli looks to be a much better prospect and I’d definitely keep him involved here as you can see he’s not overawed when he comes on. We MIGHT have ONE there.
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