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Post by sparks on Feb 10, 2024 22:25:20 GMT
Your not still calling for Dunne over salter are you sparks? The only current change I’m personally calling for is Colback being dropped as we now have better alternatives. Marti has previously gone public in saying he expects more from an experienced player like Colback, I lost count how many times I saw Norwich players were running off him today and it’s not the first game this season it’s happened. Look back at our conceded goals this season and you will find Colback front and centre of many of them when he’s actually been available to play. I’m just pointing out some of the most hyped players in Field, Salter and Cook also make mistakes but are often ignored in favour of the likes of Chair Smyth and Armstrong. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 10, 2024 23:11:37 GMT
Your not still calling for Dunne over salter are you sparks? The only current change I’m personally calling for is Colback being dropped as we now have better alternatives. Marti has previously gone public in saying he expects more from an experienced player like Colback, I lost count how many times I saw Norwich players were running off him today and it’s not the first game this season it’s happened. Look back at our conceded goals this season and you will find Colback front and centre of many of them when he’s actually been available to play. I’m just pointing out some of the most hyped players in Field, Salter and Cook also make mistakes but are often ignored in favour of the likes of Chair Smyth and Armstrong. Colback a really hard one - you aren’t wrong but equally he scores a goal, shows for the ball with players around and can also turn and pass forwards. Did one brilliant tackle to stop a very dangerous attack. But also gave away a couple of v dangerous free kicks that a better set piece specialist might have punished and got swept aside a few times. who is better in your opinion? Field prob defensively but offers none of the other stuff. Hodge looks nice in patches but goes missing a bit. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 11, 2024 0:07:12 GMT
i genuinely think chair would shine in a much better side. i feel like half the reason why he's so selfish on the ball is because most of our players don't present themselves. I would agree with you until before the January signings. But can't make these excuses now. Eg look at Anderson's assist for Frey today. Looked up, hit it early and accurately picked his man out. No messing about. Playing him central might suit him better though |
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Post by sparks on Feb 11, 2024 7:52:38 GMT
The only current change I’m personally calling for is Colback being dropped as we now have better alternatives. Marti has previously gone public in saying he expects more from an experienced player like Colback, I lost count how many times I saw Norwich players were running off him today and it’s not the first game this season it’s happened. Look back at our conceded goals this season and you will find Colback front and centre of many of them when he’s actually been available to play. I’m just pointing out some of the most hyped players in Field, Salter and Cook also make mistakes but are often ignored in favour of the likes of Chair Smyth and Armstrong. Colback a really hard one - you aren’t wrong but equally he scores a goal, shows for the ball with players around and can also turn and pass forwards. Did one brilliant tackle to stop a very dangerous attack. But also gave away a couple of v dangerous free kicks that a better set piece specialist might have punished and got swept aside a few times. who is better in your opinion? Field prob defensively but offers none of the other stuff. Hodge looks nice in patches but goes missing a bit. Would understand if Field came back in for the away game at Stoke if it allows Andersen to be given more licence to roam, Colback is undoubtedly on a two game ban soon so I would expect Hodge will figure prominently. Reading between the lines of what Marti said after yesterday’s game I don’t believe Colback is expected to start against Stoke. londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/qpr-boss-marti-cifuentes-has-his-say-on-impact-of-new-signings-in-norwich-city-draw/ |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 11, 2024 8:08:20 GMT
When are yellow cards wiped or has that already happened?
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 11, 2024 8:53:09 GMT
Your not still calling for Dunne over salter are you sparks? The only current change I’m personally calling for is Colback being dropped as we now have better alternatives. Marti has previously gone public in saying he expects more from an experienced player like Colback, I lost count how many times I saw Norwich players were running off him today and it’s not the first game this season it’s happened. Look back at our conceded goals this season and you will find Colback front and centre of many of them when he’s actually been available to play. I’m just pointing out some of the most hyped players in Field, Salter and Cook also make mistakes but are often ignored in favour of the likes of Chair Smyth and Armstrong. I would have agreed with you a month ago but not now. He's really solidified the midfield, has cut out the silly bookings and fouls and looks up to speed whereas before he looked a yard off it. I'd keep him in and Field out if I'm honest. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 11, 2024 9:54:57 GMT
Colback’s technique was great for his goal - so easy to slice and Field would have passed it to their keeper. I like Field for other stuff he does for the team but I wouldn’t play them together unless it’s a wet Wednesday night in Stoke and we want at least a point 😁 Colback for me at the moment.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 11, 2024 10:08:49 GMT
Just looked again at defending for their first goal. Pathetic just about covers it. That should never be a goal in pro game.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 11, 2024 10:10:52 GMT
Just looked again at defending for their first goal. Pathetic just about covers it. That should never be a goal in pro game. Yep, ridiculous goal to concede. I'd also add the second goal, despite the fact their guy climbed high for it, why on earth are we allowing him to win that? It was a hung ball in the air not a whipped in cross. Very annoying. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 11, 2024 10:41:52 GMT
Begovic and crosses. Not impressed.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 11, 2024 10:53:45 GMT
Begovic and crosses. Not impressed. Another one that I won't miss. Done kind of ok for us but I have too many gripes about him. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 11, 2024 11:32:56 GMT
Just looked again at defending for their first goal. Pathetic just about covers it. That should never be a goal in pro game. Our players lack basic game inteligence and shows when attacking and defending |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 11, 2024 12:23:57 GMT
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Post by sparks on Feb 11, 2024 12:51:00 GMT
The only current change I’m personally calling for is Colback being dropped as we now have better alternatives. Marti has previously gone public in saying he expects more from an experienced player like Colback, I lost count how many times I saw Norwich players were running off him today and it’s not the first game this season it’s happened. Look back at our conceded goals this season and you will find Colback front and centre of many of them when he’s actually been available to play. I’m just pointing out some of the most hyped players in Field, Salter and Cook also make mistakes but are often ignored in favour of the likes of Chair Smyth and Armstrong. I would have agreed with you a month ago but not now. He's really solidified the midfield, has cut out the silly bookings and fouls and looks up to speed whereas before he looked a yard off it. I'd keep him in and Field out if I'm honest. Look at this goal and then’not’tell me Colback should have done much better, I can’t be arsed providing further evidence to back up my opinion that Colback had a poor game yesterday as it’s enough to see Stans remark on his performance. Why would any of our fans admit that we’ve lacked a creative central midfield player all season for the club to bring in Anderson and Hodge and then wanting to see Colback keep his place? |
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 11, 2024 21:00:46 GMT
Opposition views
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Post by Bill on Feb 11, 2024 22:01:17 GMT
I cant believe how naive some of our players are.
Begovic blocked by 2 Norwich players at early corners,nobody from our lot go to help him out,like get between our keeper and them.
Chair whilst appreaciating his effort and skill still dwells on the ball to long allowing defences to set themselves.
When attacking how many of our midfield are busting a gut to get in the box,zero.
Have we got some rule where we can never play ball over the top.
Their first goal laughable at this level
Their second where was the marking?
Willock still not worth his place imo.
Andersen bottled 1 challenge then played a great ball for our equaliser.
Frey are you watching Dykes.
Overall a good point but should have been 3.
At times cant believe how quiet our fans were as most games from now on are cup finals.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 12, 2024 7:20:17 GMT
Can’t argue with any of that but there is a lot of good going on too and we shouldn’t under estimate the size of the task Marti has taken on after Ainsworth’s disasters. We’ve got a settled and more than adequate back four. It would be helpful if Begovic took out a cross or two occasionally. Makes some great saves but needs to boss his area for a change. We are playing better football and should be too good to drop. There are options in the squad to change things and Marti uses it well.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 12, 2024 10:08:39 GMT
In fairness to Colback he does look to turn and play forward. Hayden the same. Massive improvement on Field and Dozzell just passing it straight back from whence it came.
We all get there are things to work on but the point is, as Stanley says above, they are being worked on. Under previous regimes we would see the same old mistakes week after week.
We were regularly conceding three goals a game with nothing in reply under Ainsworth. We don't become Man City overnight. Given how bad we were and the shortness of time the transformation has been remarkable IMHO.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 12, 2024 13:30:47 GMT
Re Field he is the guy you want on with 15 / 30 minutes to go when you want to shore it up. Boy could we have done with him against Norwich rather than Dykes as they were cutting through us and could easily have scored a winner. But for all his good qualities we should be looking to boss the next three games and for that we need players better in possession. You saw on Saturday how many players were involved. Field will be a big part of our survival but unlikely to start every game.
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Post by Bill on Feb 12, 2024 14:20:22 GMT
Playing out from the keeper worries me because we’re not very good at it. I get that if successful you’ve taken out half of the opposing team but that idea is nothing new - players like Glen Hoddle used to do it with one pass. Playing out looks great but it does seem to have become an obsession at the expense of other plays. Yes work in progress. We play some nice football at times just not where it counts. Got to be sharper up top like the 2 good chances early doors. |
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Post by sparks on Feb 12, 2024 14:35:35 GMT
Re Field he is the guy you want on with 15 / 30 minutes to go when you want to shore it up. Boy could we have done with him against Norwich rather than Dykes as they were cutting through us and could easily have scored a winner. But for all his good qualities we should be looking to boss the next three games and for that we need players better in possession. You saw on Saturday how many players were involved. Field will be a big part of our survival but unlikely to start every game. Field isn’t a forward thinking player but that requirement isn’t quite as big a problem with Hayden around and Dozzell gone. I can’t think of any mistakes that Field has committed defensively that resulted in a good chance for the opposition to score, I would need both hands to count up Colback mistakes and he’s only played 18 games. |
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