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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 9, 2024 21:40:38 GMT
Archer last four games or do we stick Asmir? I don’t rate Archer either to be honest and to bring him in now would be criminal. Imagine it went pear shaped. Got to stick with this fucking useless buffoon and hope that the defence bail him out until we are safe and we can fuck him off.
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Post by hubble on Apr 9, 2024 21:41:13 GMT
Think most of you are being too harsh on Smyth. As I said earlier, at least he got those chances, something Flatfoot never seems to do. He brings energy and commitment to the side and I think he's all right. Where was Dykes all evening? How close did he come to scoring? Chair skied a beautiful chance early in the first half. It's not jsut Smyth. Field slipped when he could have scored. Shit happens. Win and we'd all be happy, so put that down to Flappy.
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Post by hubble on Apr 9, 2024 21:42:32 GMT
Archer last four games or do we stick Asmir?
Walsh is better than Archer.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 9, 2024 21:44:59 GMT
Archer last four games or do we stick Asmir? It really is a poor situation we find ourself in on the keeper front. was going say really poor options possibly as bad as up front. I just have zero confidence in Asmir
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Post by Greg1882 on Apr 9, 2024 21:45:17 GMT
100% that’s on begovic. Fucking shit goalkeeping just basic stuff. It’s not the first time
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Post by West Acton on Apr 9, 2024 21:45:44 GMT
Archer last four games or do we stick Asmir? I don’t rate Archer either to be honest and to bring him in now would be criminal. Imagine it went pear shaped. Got to stick with this fucking useless buffoon and hope that the defence bail him out until we are safe and we can fuck him off. your probably right Jimmy it’s desperation now.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 9, 2024 21:47:13 GMT
Think most of you are being too harsh on Smyth. As I said earlier, at least he got those chances, something Flatfoot never seems to do. He brings energy and commitment to the side and I think he's all right. Where was Dykes all evening? How close did he come to scoring? Chair skied a beautiful chance early in the first half. It's not jsut Smyth. Field slipped when he could have scored. Shit happens. Win and we'd all be happy, so put that down to Flappy. I'm being harsh on Smyth, Dykes and Chair. Not Field as at least he scored.
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 9, 2024 21:49:37 GMT
Now I know why the prick seldom comes off his line…….. because he cannot catch a bloody ball.
As expected, we smashed Plymouth tonight, what fucked us up was having a scarecrow as a striker and a 6”4 feather in goal.
So pissed off right now.
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 9, 2024 21:49:39 GMT
I don’t rate Archer either to be honest and to bring him in now would be criminal. Imagine it went pear shaped. Got to stick with this fucking useless buffoon and hope that the defence bail him out until we are safe and we can fuck him off. your probably right Jimmy it’s desperation now. I can’t stand Begovic, but Marti would get lynched and absolutely slated if it was to all go wrong. Just got to bite our nails and hope we get another win which I think will be enough and then we can rid ourselves of some of the useless shit, we are paying and watching every week.
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Post by James1979 on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:14 GMT
10 games ok, we’d just lost to Stoke and were 4 points from safety.
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Post by hubble on Apr 9, 2024 22:18:48 GMT
10 games ok, we’d just lost to Stoke and were 4 points from safety.
Probably the most meaningful post of the night. 4 games to go and we're 16th with 8 teams below us, and every one of those teams are shitting themselves. We've done well away this season under Marti, and bar that Stoke anomaly, 4 wins and 2 draws in the last 7 away games. We probably need 2 or 3 points out of 12 to be safe. I think we're just going to get over the line.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2024 5:44:28 GMT
10 games ok, we’d just lost to Stoke and were 4 points from safety. cracking moderating post and needed in the Circumstances. Calm heads needed in a crisis James I salute you 🫡
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Post by Corbray on Apr 10, 2024 6:10:03 GMT
last night wasnt ideal but it's another point on the table. 50 is the magic number and we have 4 more games to get to that.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2024 6:59:40 GMT
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 10, 2024 8:30:29 GMT
We needed a reaction after the shocker against Sheffield Wed. On the whole I think we got it, with a weakened team. At least there was intensity which was so lacking on Saturday. A clinical finisher and we win that at a canter. But we all know the problem and however you re-arrange the deckchairs we aren't going to get a proper goalscorer on the pitch this side of the close season because we don't have one in the squad. Given our striker and goalkeeper options we are actually doing incredibly well. 4 ahead with 4 to play. There are half a dozen sides who would bite your hand off for our position.
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Post by MattyRangers on Apr 10, 2024 8:38:33 GMT
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Post by Bill on Apr 10, 2024 9:28:21 GMT
Have to stick with Begovic for continuity if nothing else. Not the time to change keepers and upset the defence which is part of the team that has done well of late.
Dont rate Archer,Walsh inexperienced and a huge risk in these circumstances.
Asmir mistake is immaterial if donkey and co had taken their chances.
Still think its going to the wire.
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Post by Bill on Apr 10, 2024 9:31:43 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2024 11:45:05 GMT
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 10, 2024 11:53:34 GMT
Thing is, an outfield players miscues and (usually) the worst thing that happens is loss of possession.
A keeper cocks up and conceding a goal is a very real possibility.
Begovic has put in some decent saves in his time with us, was affordable and allowed us to cash in on Dieng.
He’s also (reportedly) a very good influence in the dressing room and, no doubt, a mentor to our other keepers.
Got no problem with him in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 10, 2024 11:56:13 GMT
I have tbh.
Slow feet, slow distribution, been beaten either from distance or ridiculous angles on a number of occasions this season and doesn’t fill me with very much confidence at all.
Credit due he’s had some good moments and has been ok but, on the whole, I can’t wait for us to wave him goodbye.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 10, 2024 12:12:49 GMT
Thing is, an outfield players miscues and (usually) the worst thing that happens is loss of possession. A keeper cocks up and conceding a goal is a very real possibility. Begovic has put in some decent saves in his time with us, was affordable and allowed us to cash in on Dieng. He’s also (reportedly) a very good influence in the dressing room and, no doubt, a mentor to our other keepers. Got no problem with him in the grand scheme of things. not the first cockup though and he's let in a few easy goals. he's been decent over the past 2 games (flap last night aside) but shouldn't be our keeper next season. for a team that wants to pass it around the back you need to have a keeper who can do it. fully agree with selling seny and begovic is a good stopgap but new keeper is a must next season.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 10, 2024 12:15:04 GMT
That was a howler last night but overall he has done ok given the situation we were in. We will definitely need to change him next season though. I certainly would not be swapping him out for the remaining games. Awful idea imo.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2024 12:50:09 GMT
Thing is, an outfield players miscues and (usually) the worst thing that happens is loss of possession. A keeper cocks up and conceding a goal is a very real possibility. Begovic has put in some decent saves in his time with us, was affordable and allowed us to cash in on Dieng. He’s also (reportedly) a very good influence in the dressing room and, no doubt, a mentor to our other keepers. Got no problem with him in the grand scheme of things. a keepers job is to keep the ball out the net so unless the saves being pulled off are world class and unbelievable hes doing what he’s paid to do. Dropping the ball which results in goals is not what is expected. Errors here and there I can get my head round but there are errors where your heart is in your mouth every game and the errors are turning into goals which results in dropped points. Not directed at you Loftus but I’m shocked at how willing the fan base are to accept mediocrity from some players who are well below par (Smyth, Armstrong, Chair, Willock, Asmir etc) and actually actively making up excuses to protect them. I just hope the management can see some of these players for what they are and are ruthless in their assessment and do not buy into this give them more and more rope to protect them as that attitude will see us going nowhere but backwards.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2024 12:51:22 GMT
Thing is, an outfield players miscues and (usually) the worst thing that happens is loss of possession. A keeper cocks up and conceding a goal is a very real possibility. Begovic has put in some decent saves in his time with us, was affordable and allowed us to cash in on Dieng. He’s also (reportedly) a very good influence in the dressing room and, no doubt, a mentor to our other keepers. Got no problem with him in the grand scheme of things. not the first cockup though and he's let in a few easy goals. he's been decent over the past 2 games (flap last night aside) but shouldn't be our keeper next season. for a team that wants to pass it around the back you need to have a keeper who can do it. fully agree with selling seny and begovic is a good stopgap but new keeper is a must next season. his fuck up yesterday from memory was exactly the same as the one against Millwall which they scored from.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 10, 2024 14:02:42 GMT
That defensive performance was excellent. Paal has just kept one of the best players in the league quiet, Steve Cook was Steve Cook, Fox has been taking notes off JCS of how to play CB in a back 4 & Dunne kept up his recent form. Then Begovic flaps at the one thing he had to do🤯 Well summed up! More or less what I said last night
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 10, 2024 14:07:05 GMT
Thing is, an outfield players miscues and (usually) the worst thing that happens is loss of possession. A keeper cocks up and conceding a goal is a very real possibility. Begovic has put in some decent saves in his time with us, was affordable and allowed us to cash in on Dieng. He’s also (reportedly) a very good influence in the dressing room and, no doubt, a mentor to our other keepers. Got no problem with him in the grand scheme of things. a keepers job is to keep the ball out the net so unless the saves being pulled off are world class and unbelievable hes doing what he’s paid to do. Dropping the ball which results in goals is not what is expected. Errors here and there I can get my head round but there are errors where your heart is in your mouth every game and the errors are turning into goals which results in dropped points. Not directed at you Loftus but I’m shocked at how willing the fan base are to accept mediocrity from some players who are well below par (Smyth, Armstrong, Chair, Willock, Asmir etc) and actually actively making up excuses to protect them. I just hope the management can see some of these players for what they are and are ruthless in their assessment and do not buy into this give them more and more rope to protect them as that attitude will see us going nowhere but backwards.
I think the board have been cutting their coat according to their cloth. We are absolutely bloody skint and, last year in particular, seemingly VERY close to breeching FFP rules. So we get the players we can afford and who are willing to come here. And if we escape relegation, well, that short-term strategy will have worked as far as I am concerned - I think we were pretty much EVERYONE'S (ie, pundits) nailed-on favourite to not only be relegated, but to finish rock-bottom. Goalkeeper-wise, I'd be interested in learning whether Walsh is ready for Championship duties. As I understand it, next year will allow us a bit more cash for players, so perhaps we'll see improvements in the squad. And Marti will have had a full pre-season.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 10, 2024 14:29:09 GMT
I think as always reactions on here tend to veer from one extreme to the to the other, rapidly.
Last night we played well, compromised as always by weakness up top and and a GK a bit past his sell by date. Given that though, we showed enough to suggest that we are good enough to stay up.
As long as we actually turn up and get a grip on games, we'll be fine. (ie no more Owls style abortions and we ok.)
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2024 14:41:33 GMT
a keepers job is to keep the ball out the net so unless the saves being pulled off are world class and unbelievable hes doing what he’s paid to do. Dropping the ball which results in goals is not what is expected. Errors here and there I can get my head round but there are errors where your heart is in your mouth every game and the errors are turning into goals which results in dropped points. Not directed at you Loftus but I’m shocked at how willing the fan base are to accept mediocrity from some players who are well below par (Smyth, Armstrong, Chair, Willock, Asmir etc) and actually actively making up excuses to protect them. I just hope the management can see some of these players for what they are and are ruthless in their assessment and do not buy into this give them more and more rope to protect them as that attitude will see us going nowhere but backwards.
I think the board have been cutting their coat according to their cloth. We are absolutely bloody skint and, last year in particular, seemingly VERY close to breeching FFP rules. So we get the players we can afford and who are willing to come here. And if we escape relegation, well, that short-term strategy will have worked as far as I am concerned - I think we were pretty much EVERYONE'S (ie, pundits) nailed-on favourite to not only be relegated, but to finish rock-bottom. Goalkeeper-wise, I'd be interested in learning whether Walsh is ready for Championship duties. As I understand it, next year will allow us a bit more cash for players, so perhaps we'll see improvements in the squad. And Marti will have had a full pre-season. Think decision on back up keeper has been made as Archer no longer in match day squads and Walsh is and archer been playing development squad so assuming he’s off and Walsh steps up.
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Post by Bill on Apr 10, 2024 14:45:13 GMT
I think as always reactions on here tend to veer from one extreme to the to the other, rapidly. Last night we played well, compromised as always by weakness up top and and a GK a bit past his sell by date. Given that though, we showed enough to suggest that we are good enough to stay up. As long as we actually turn up and get a grip on games, we'll be fine. (ie no more Owls style abortions and we ok.) If Dykes plays only 10 will turn up before a ball is kicked.
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