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Post by alanwycombe on Jun 20, 2024 17:50:09 GMT
our boy is on, he'll mix it up. Hasnt had a look in so far, shows what a thankless task it is playing wide left for Southgate
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Post by 2Loftus on Jun 20, 2024 17:50:18 GMT
Long punts upfield, hopeless set plays, awful crosses... last 5 minutes have been the pits.
Denmark fans jeering England's woeful play.
Embarrassingly poor performance.
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Post by acricketer on Jun 20, 2024 17:53:34 GMT
A complete shit show. What was that? Hard to believe we could play worse thamn Sunday.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 20, 2024 17:56:26 GMT
With the array of talent at his disposal, if that's the best Southgate can get out of them he's fucking shite. Defended him for long enough. This team aren't winning anything any time soon. Shite shite shite from front to back. Can't string two fucking passes together, yet I've seen absolute whoppers try and tell me Kyle Walker is the best right back in the world, and Jude Bellingham is the next Maradona. What a joke.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jun 20, 2024 17:56:37 GMT
Complete crap.
Just waiting for the contrite post-match player interviews where they say they need to put in a performance in the next game because 'we owe it to the fans'.
And of course the next game will be exactly the same.
Dross.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 20, 2024 17:56:41 GMT
inexcusable by southgate considering the wealth of talent he has at his disposal
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Post by 2Loftus on Jun 20, 2024 17:57:27 GMT
Maybe it's a thing with managers called Gareth...
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Post by 2Loftus on Jun 20, 2024 17:58:57 GMT
Headline in July...
'FA appoint Gareth Ainsworth as new England manager.'
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Post by hubble on Jun 20, 2024 18:00:08 GMT
Headline in July... 'FA appoint Gareth Ainsworth as new England manager.'The way we're playing, it's as if he's already in charge.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 20, 2024 18:06:21 GMT
Everything that was wrong about those last two performances leads back to the manager, tactics and coaching. Just no getting away from it.
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Post by hubble on Jun 20, 2024 18:09:26 GMT
Shitegate.
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Post by Bill on Jun 20, 2024 18:20:30 GMT
What we thinking of refs this tournament? Awfull.
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Post by Corbray on Jun 20, 2024 18:20:47 GMT
just play a well balanced team that compliments one another. fuck knows what is going, we look awful
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Post by Bill on Jun 20, 2024 18:25:24 GMT
Talk about leaders all over the pitch,Bbc pundits before the game.
Really i didnt see one but not surprising when we have a muppet leading the team off it.
Sick to death of this bloke clueless.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 20, 2024 18:26:24 GMT
What we thinking of refs this tournament? I've only watched the England games and they both looked fine. Ref v Serbia was excellent I thought.
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Post by acricketer on Jun 20, 2024 18:27:13 GMT
Sad to say Eze looked lost.
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Post by hubble on Jun 20, 2024 18:27:56 GMT
Shitegate on now. Comes across like a scared rabbit. It's a weird confluence of events that have made him seem like this great manager people keep going on about. He's not. He's limited, tactically inept and way too defensive minded.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 20, 2024 18:42:15 GMT
It's a weird confluence of events that have made him seem like this great manager people keep going on about. Embarrassing when the entire BBC panel can clearly see where he's going wrong but are trying to be ever so polite and diplomatic about it. Apart from Shearer in the comms box who didn't hold back one bit.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 20, 2024 19:50:36 GMT
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 20, 2024 20:39:26 GMT
He's not wrong.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jun 20, 2024 20:47:13 GMT
Fuck James McClean. It’s not arrogant to be upbeat about your potential progress in a big tournament. Something that has passed this guy by.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jun 20, 2024 21:07:44 GMT
McCleans a cunt, always has been. Just watched the last 15 mins of Spain v Italy and there was more energy from those teams after playing 80mins than there was from England after 20 mins against Denmark. Needs to be a bit of soul searching amongst the England camp, with the players giving their two pennies worth to the manager. There’s still time to turn it around.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jun 20, 2024 21:13:23 GMT
That was shockingly bad. If QPR were that shit we would be up in arms. We can savage Southgate and i’m not defending him after that but the problem is much deeper than the manager - be it expectation/ fear/arrogance (fill in your own theory) we are just totally shit as a national team. I was actually cheering on Denmark near the end as I wanted England to have a wake up moment. They couldn’t make. 5 yard pass!
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jun 20, 2024 21:16:11 GMT
As for Eze reminded me why I never put him in the “legend” status that some do. When the going is easy he floats around the pitch and looks pretty but ask him to put in one regulation tackle and he can’t do it
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jun 20, 2024 21:21:27 GMT
Everything that was wrong about those last two performances leads back to the manager, tactics and coaching. Just no getting away from it. Am not defending Southgate as think he is a typical complacent, establishment England manager BUT you could have Pep or Jurgan managing the national team and it is going to be shit. We have tried every type of manager and it has failed. I mean we can beat up on Gareth but the problems much deeper than him IMHO
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 20, 2024 21:23:58 GMT
the problem is much deeper than the manager Have to disagree with you there Stains. The problem is ENTIRELY down to the manager. A proper manager would have won something by now with this generation of players. Hope I eat my words this tournament but really can't see it.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jun 20, 2024 21:32:08 GMT
the problem is much deeper than the manager Have to disagree with you there Stains. The problem is ENTIRELY down to the manager. A proper manager would have won something by now with this generation of players. Hope I eat my words this tournament but really can't see it. Exactly. Imagine what Terry Venables could have done with this team, God rest his soul.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jun 20, 2024 21:33:28 GMT
We have had some amazing players individually over many years. Remember when we had Beckham, Lampard and Gerrard in our midfield? What country could match that on paper? I’ve been watching England since the early 80s. We have had several periods of (on paper) brilliant players but as a national team we have been shocking. I don’t care about Southgate one way or another but am honestly happy to bet my mortgage on the fact that the next tournament post Southgate people will be saying “why is our manager so shit? Why do we make Scotland look mildly less disabled than we look?” It’s way bigger than the manager
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 20, 2024 21:37:19 GMT
Have to disagree with you there Stains. The problem is ENTIRELY down to the manager. A proper manager would have won something by now with this generation of players. Hope I eat my words this tournament but really can't see it. Exactly. Imagine what Terry Venables could have done with this team, God rest his soul. Too true Itso.
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Post by James1979 on Jun 20, 2024 21:57:15 GMT
That was terrible. But then for Southgate to say he’s experimenting with a right back in central midfield in a major tournament…..speechless. The only positive is that experiment must now be over.
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