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Post by hubble on Jun 17, 2024 18:42:50 GMT
Who would be a Belgium fan Someone who comes from Belgium?
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Post by Corbray on Jun 17, 2024 19:01:29 GMT
denmark is a must win game for us otherwise dk will be able to gloat about it for months
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 17, 2024 19:06:06 GMT
TAA wasn't the worst England player out there to be fair. Who was, then, in your opinion Ginge? I thought he was the worst player, I lost count of how many times he gave the ball away or had it nicked off him.
Foden, Walker, Trippier all much worse imo.
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Post by Bill on Jun 17, 2024 20:23:21 GMT
Have the rules of the game been changed overnight,France game.
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Post by Bill on Jun 17, 2024 20:48:02 GMT
Farcical
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Post by hal9thou on Jun 17, 2024 20:53:51 GMT
Completely forgot Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is part of the England coaching setup. And just like that, everything makes sense 🤣 How the fuck did that even happen? Southgate must have signed it off.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 17, 2024 20:54:43 GMT
Another one for the memories. Man wrapped in QPR flag in second pic anyone recognise him? just picked up the guy beside geezer in flag is the famous Swindles. Totally different now.
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Post by James1979 on Jun 17, 2024 21:13:30 GMT
Completely forgot Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is part of the England coaching setup. And just like that, everything makes sense 🤣 It is what it is.
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Post by Hertfordshire Ranger on Jun 18, 2024 7:07:12 GMT
..... with that kind of talent at his disposal it's Gareth's to fuck up. And he has previous. I look at that potential 7- 11 (as previously stated) and think this can be done. All he has to do is set them up, and aim for the throat. Unfortunately, his whole demeanour and mindset suggests caution. We're not good enough defensively, but I don't think there are better 10/ AMF / striker options in the tournament. Caution will win us nothing. the cautious approach is what concerns me. the attacking options we have are world class so unleash them and give them free reign to play how we want. set up the defence and midfield to play cautious yes, but FFS let the attackers shoot whenever they want rather than trying to dribble the ball into the net. Been a problem for years. Players playing in a different way when picked for England. To a large extent, this must be down to the coaching. But then our line up of coaches is hardly impressive. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is assistant coach FFS. If Southgate jumps, we have to look further than just changing the manager. The whole coaching set-up needs review. The most exciting England line-up for some time, and yet expectations remain low, especially after the second half on Sunday when Southgate was completely out thought.
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Post by MattyRangers on Jun 18, 2024 7:54:41 GMT
the cautious approach is what concerns me. the attacking options we have are world class so unleash them and give them free reign to play how we want. set up the defence and midfield to play cautious yes, but FFS let the attackers shoot whenever they want rather than trying to dribble the ball into the net. Been a problem for years. Players playing in a different way when picked for England. To a large extent, this must be down to the coaching. But then our line up of coaches is hardly impressive. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is assistant coach FFS. If Southgate jumps, we have to look further than just changing the manager. The whole coaching set-up needs review. The most exciting England line-up for some time, and yet expectations remain low, especially after the second half on Sunday when Southgate was completely out thought. Can't agree with this. We are faves for the Euros, expectation is high, no? We have to be making the final as a minimum IMO.
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Post by Hertfordshire Ranger on Jun 18, 2024 8:48:26 GMT
Been a problem for years. Players playing in a different way when picked for England. To a large extent, this must be down to the coaching. But then our line up of coaches is hardly impressive. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is assistant coach FFS. If Southgate jumps, we have to look further than just changing the manager. The whole coaching set-up needs review. The most exciting England line-up for some time, and yet expectations remain low, especially after the second half on Sunday when Southgate was completely out thought. Can't agree with this. We are faves for the Euros, expectation is high, no? We have to be making the final as a minimum IMO. Favourites because of the quality of the squad - and that is really my point. We have a very talented set of players who need to be moulded into a team. Did we look like a team that warranted the status of favourites when playing Iceland and Serbia? We do not look like a unit who can break teams down or respond to teams going front foot with physical presence / aggression. I think that is partly why the crowd get excited when Eze comes on, he tries something different. But that is about coaching, or making changes. I think hope remains high, but I do not hear too many people thinking we will win the competition. Teams grow into competitions, and I hope that we will do that. But it is a hope, not an expectation.
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Post by James1979 on Jun 18, 2024 8:52:24 GMT
In terms of talent, I would say France are stronger. Look at their centre backs compared to ours?
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Post by MattyRangers on Jun 18, 2024 9:02:21 GMT
In terms of talent, I would say France are stronger. Look at their centre backs compared to ours? France def the best side, England close behind (in terms of squad / talent available). We do get way more hung up on not blowing teams away than other nations. France had a lacklustre 1-0 win themselves last night, I doubt their fans are in meltdown anything like we are after Sunday's result. Tournament football, just need to get out the group withour injuries & have the squad gelling & then up the tempo in the knockouts. Look at France's group stage when they won the last WC...
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Post by James1979 on Jun 18, 2024 10:22:44 GMT
In terms of talent, I would say France are stronger. Look at their centre backs compared to ours? France def the best side, England close behind (in terms of squad / talent available). We do get way more hung up on not blowing teams away than other nations. France had a lacklustre 1-0 win themselves last night, I doubt their fans are in meltdown anything like we are after Sunday's result. Tournament football, just need to get out the group withour injuries & have the squad gelling & then up the tempo in the knockouts. Look at France's group stage when they won the last WC... Yeah I agree to an extent. I do think Austria look a good side and they’re unlucky to be in such a strong group. I don’t think Serbia, Denmark and Slovenia are anywhere near as good as Austria. In a funny kind of way, I’d prefer 1 tough side in the group to get us ready for tougher tests ahead.
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Post by Corbray on Jun 18, 2024 10:49:57 GMT
In terms of talent, I would say France are stronger. Look at their centre backs compared to ours? france are probably the best team in the world overall. we have some injuries at the back but even so it's not exactly like guehi, gomez, konsa or dunk are slouches, they could walk into most national sides starting 11 outside the major nations. guehi was good against serbia, a bit too enthusiastic but he'll grow into the starting 11 the further we go. main question is who partners rice in midfield for me, TAA is good but gets caught out and one could argue we need some defensive stability there. personally would like to see eze be given the nod against denmark.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 18, 2024 10:57:02 GMT
guehi was good against serbia agree. calm, composed. didn't put a foot wrong. so no concerns about our CBs on that showing.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 18, 2024 10:58:01 GMT
personally would like to see eze be given the nod against denmark. drop foden for eze, no question.
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Post by James1979 on Jun 18, 2024 10:58:28 GMT
In terms of talent, I would say France are stronger. Look at their centre backs compared to ours? france are probably the best team in the world overall. we have some injuries at the back but even so it's not exactly like guehi, gomez, konsa or dunk are slouches, they could walk into most national sides starting 11 outside the major nations. guehi was good against serbia, a bit too enthusiastic but he'll grow into the starting 11 the further we go. main question is who partners rice in midfield for me, TAA is good but gets caught out and one could argue we need some defensive stability there. personally would like to see eze be given the nod against denmark. I’m not sure Lewis Dunk could walk into most national sides. I like the look of Guehi, and have always rated Gomez. Can’t comment too much about Konsa. TAA just isn’t a central midfield for me. You have to play back to goal, get less time on the ball. It’s very different to playing great passes and crosses when you’re stuck on the right with loads of time.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jun 18, 2024 18:11:02 GMT
Hopefully Southgate and Hasselbank were watching the Turkey game just now. If so it will dawn on them that when a player backs himself and shoots from 20 Yards instead of playing it safe, the ball can often end up in the net.
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Post by Shania on Jun 18, 2024 18:17:15 GMT
Hopefully Southgate and Hasselbank were watching the Turkey game just now. If so it will dawn on them that when a player backs himself and shoots from 20 Yards instead of playing it safe, the ball can often end up in the net. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Can also apply to QPR.
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Post by spongeparr on Jun 19, 2024 9:39:17 GMT
Not a fan of shoehorning people in.
Play the best team for the match. We won't be defending all that much vs Denmark, so have TAA in at RB. Move Foden centrally and have a Eze/Gorden on the left. If Foden Bellingham centrally is too open then play an actual CM in there and drop Foden.
The best teams rely on balance rather than basing it around names.
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Post by James1979 on Jun 19, 2024 11:11:19 GMT
Not a fan of shoehorning people in. Play the best team for the match. We won't be defending all that much vs Denmark, so have TAA in at RB. Move Foden centrally and have a Eze/Gorden on the left. If Foden Bellingham centrally is too open then play an actual CM in there and drop Foden. The best teams rely on balance rather than basing it around names. You’d drop the best right in the world?
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Post by spongeparr on Jun 19, 2024 12:58:27 GMT
Not a fan of shoehorning people in. Play the best team for the match. We won't be defending all that much vs Denmark, so have TAA in at RB. Move Foden centrally and have a Eze/Gorden on the left. If Foden Bellingham centrally is too open then play an actual CM in there and drop Foden. The best teams rely on balance rather than basing it around names. You’d drop the best right in the world? Yeah, for a game where he isn't going to be defending much and we need more attacking. TAA is capable enough to come in and do the job defensively, whilst offering more going forward. Walker then comes back in vs either a pacey winger or just a higher calibre of team.
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Post by James1979 on Jun 19, 2024 13:09:06 GMT
You’d drop the best right in the world? Yeah, for a game where he isn't going to be defending much and we need more attacking. TAA is capable enough to come in and do the job defensively, whilst offering more going forward. Walker then comes back in vs either a pacey winger or just a higher calibre of team. Why do we need to attack more against Denmark? We don’t care about goal difference. Let’s just play our best side.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jun 19, 2024 19:48:43 GMT
This VAR offside system is so much better than the one used in England.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 19, 2024 19:58:42 GMT
This VAR offside system is so much better than the one used in England. whole VAR system seems quicker and more sophisticated
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Post by The General on Jun 19, 2024 21:14:17 GMT
We need to put Gordon on the left wing
He has immense pace will scare the life out of them
We had no pace on the left at all plain to see
Saka on the right Gordon on the Left
Not sure where Foden fits atm tbh
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 19, 2024 22:09:07 GMT
We need to put Gordon on the left wing He has immense pace will scare the life out of them We had no pace on the left at all plain to see Saka on the right Gordon on the Left Not sure where Foden fits atm tbh Foden was nullified on the left because his full back behind him was right footed 🤦♂️ It aint rocket science Gareth
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Post by spongeparr on Jun 20, 2024 9:05:48 GMT
Yeah, for a game where he isn't going to be defending much and we need more attacking. TAA is capable enough to come in and do the job defensively, whilst offering more going forward. Walker then comes back in vs either a pacey winger or just a higher calibre of team. Why do we need to attack more against Denmark? We don’t care about goal difference. Let’s just play our best side. Well we won't be defending much, as naturally we'll be on the ball for longer. If you are on the ball longer, you want TAA as he is better on the ball? I don't think there is a wrong answer here, in fairness. The talk of Southgate is too defensive etc so a way to not be overly cautious is to play a player than likes to attack.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jun 20, 2024 9:08:23 GMT
I'd start Mick Mills tbh. And maybe Terry Butcher.
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