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Post by stainrodisalegend on Oct 6, 2024 10:21:50 GMT
Next game we need to go back to basics or this downward spiral could very quickly spin out of control.
If JCS not fit still, bring in Fox at centre half. At least he is solid, professional and understands the Championship.
Jimmy is a diabolical centre half who almost gave away about three goals on his own, but he is by a million miles our most solid right back - so play him there.
Madsen cannot be within a million miles of the team, ever - bring in Varane (must be a modest improvement as at least gets the basic idea that midfield players are supposed to try to tackle).
If Varane not available bring back Colback even if he only has one leg operating.
Chair needs to start and Andersen benched. If Chair not fit enough then EDB.
Am hoping Marti will see the scale of the crisis and act accordingly. If not will be seriously concerned.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 6, 2024 10:32:25 GMT
Pretty much agree with Stainrod that first name on the team sheet must be Dunne as a right back. Ashby and Haverton both very very poor.
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Post by MattyRangers on Oct 6, 2024 10:43:16 GMT
Get back to basics make ourselves hard yo beat. Play who is prepared to battle and play for the shirt. He Marti must change to a more physical approach. If it were me got to be 442 at home and 531 away.His call but persistance with this line up is bordering on suicidal. Playing with 11 men might help us tbf. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 6, 2024 10:46:58 GMT
Get back to basics make ourselves hard yo beat. Play who is prepared to battle and play for the shirt. He Marti must change to a more physical approach. If it were me got to be 442 at home and 531 away.His call but persistance with this line up is bordering on suicidal. Playing with 11 men might help us tbf. You just love pulling me up,especially for you 532 loon. Not bad for an oldie eh. |
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Post by James1979 on Oct 6, 2024 10:51:15 GMT
Next game we need to go back to basics or this downward spiral could very quickly spin out of control. If JCS not fit still, bring in Fox at centre half. At least he is solid, professional and understands the Championship. Jimmy is a diabolical centre half who almost gave away about three goals on his own, but he is by a million miles our most solid right back - so play him there. Madsen cannot be within a million miles of the team, ever - bring in Varane (must be a modest improvement as at least gets the basic idea that midfield players are supposed to try to tackle). If Varane not available bring back Colback even if he only has one leg operating. Chair needs to start and Andersen benched. If Chair not fit enough then EDB. Am hoping Marti will see the scale of the crisis and act accordingly. If not will be seriously concerned. Yes Fox to centre half and Jimmy to right back. Try to get JcS back and Morrison must be about 1 month away. He’d do a decent job at centre half too. EDB should have started last game. At least he puts in a tackle. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 6, 2024 10:56:55 GMT
some will come good and some will absolutely flop. that's the nature of football. nardi has adapted exceptionally well but he's a keeper, the job there is pretty much straight forward lol. i don't think any team ever gets every signing right (except for brighton it seems!) but we need to be patient and let things play out. as time goes on the cream will rise to the top. look at some of our previous signings or youth team graduates. JCS was labeled as a crock and uninterested and now he's one of the best defenders in the league, paal was too lightweight and well off the pace, BOS was not good enough for the league and some people even questioned why we were bothering with eze as he was no more than a luxury player! they all turned out alright in the end. Stop with your measured opinions & common sense! Yes sarcasm is so helpful |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 6, 2024 10:59:09 GMT
Next game we need to go back to basics or this downward spiral could very quickly spin out of control. If JCS not fit still, bring in Fox at centre half. At least he is solid, professional and understands the Championship. Jimmy is a diabolical centre half who almost gave away about three goals on his own, but he is by a million miles our most solid right back - so play him there. Madsen cannot be within a million miles of the team, ever - bring in Varane (must be a modest improvement as at least gets the basic idea that midfield players are supposed to try to tackle). If Varane not available bring back Colback even if he only has one leg operating. Chair needs to start and Andersen benched. If Chair not fit enough then EDB. Am hoping Marti will see the scale of the crisis and act accordingly. If not will be seriously concerned. With the international break would have thought JCS, Colback, Fox and Chair will all be fit to start by the next game. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 6, 2024 11:01:35 GMT
These two fucks must be benched for that.
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Post by Bill on Oct 6, 2024 11:02:27 GMT
Think Bill has summarised it pretty well Need to get back to what made us good backend of last season which was being hard to beat, organised and keeping clean sheets; that has evaporated this season. Need to play as many of last seasons players as possible but not sure of current squad who adequately replaces Willock and Hayden. Willock not great last season but what he did do was put balls into the box, were simply not doing that this season which is starving Frey and in fairness Celar. We play all our football in front of teams not behind them which makes us a pretty easy side to face. We never break quickly especially when keeper has ball from defensive set pieces. Sides are never as vulnerable as they are after being in attacking set piece as everyone is out of position but we get ball and trot up pitch let them all get back then role it out. If we’re going get most out of Dembele and Saito then leave one up from corners so opposition have to leave two back and when keeper collects ball the other gets into space quickly so can spring into the attack. They are both 5ft nothing so what purpose are they really serving from corners so turn that weakness into an attacking opportunity. Play once white fed up seeing players lying on belly looking at ref with hands up having not won free kick. Happened three times yesterday. Thanks Westie |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 6, 2024 11:40:32 GMT
We play all our football in front of teams not behind them Hook, line, sinker. And why? Because we don't play quick ball, slow slow transitions. We badly need to look at a more flexible set up, ie 4-2-3-1 ball lost goes 4-3-3 possession. These are basics, we need to be honest here. Poor selection, poor set ups = piss poor management. Let get real. |
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Post by The General on Oct 6, 2024 14:58:49 GMT
Why cant we know when Colback and Jcs
are back it’s all such a big secret
Until Jcs is back Fox needs to be Cb br]and Dunne Rb
As the others are too weak
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Post by The General on Oct 6, 2024 15:02:23 GMT
Even after 11 games Martin still has
no idea what his best team is it’s rubbish
Both Jcs and Colback were supposed to be
fit again so where are they ffs
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Post by Bill on Oct 8, 2024 10:42:01 GMT
This is primarily for Stan
NARDI
SANTOS,DUNNE,COOK,PAAL.
FIELD
FOX DIXON BONNER CHAIR
FREY. LLOYD
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 8, 2024 10:48:38 GMT
Thanks Bill
Interesting choice of Morgan Fox on the right-wing
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Post by Corbray on Oct 8, 2024 10:59:17 GMT
Thanks Bill Interesting choice of Morgan Fox on the right-wing no one would expect it |
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Post by Bill on Oct 8, 2024 11:04:37 GMT
There to help Santos.
Only Santos from the newbies.
Oh i didnt choose and employ the crock of crap we just taken on.
What would your team be any of you given what we have to choose from.
I am dying to know.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 8, 2024 11:04:57 GMT
Thanks Bill Interesting choice of Morgan Fox on the right-wing no one would expect it Even more so as he's left-footed, so you'd have a left-back playing as an inverted right-winger. Would certainly add the surprise element. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 8, 2024 11:08:43 GMT
Even more so as he's left-footed, so you'd have a left-back playing as an inverted right-winger. Would certainly add the surprise element. Team please |
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Post by Bill on Oct 8, 2024 11:09:46 GMT
Even more so as he's left-footed, so you'd have a left-back playing as an inverted right-winger. Would certainly add the surprise element. Team please Ok play Saito there and get mudered |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 8, 2024 11:10:43 GMT
Even more so as he's left-footed, so you'd have a left-back playing as an inverted right-winger. Would certainly add the surprise element. Team please Bill I'm not taking the piss. I was genuinely interested in your team. I'll post mine shortly. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 8, 2024 11:11:29 GMT
Or continue in his current vain and flirt with relegation again.
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Post by Corbray on Oct 8, 2024 11:17:03 GMT
for me i'd try a back 3.
nardi
dembele dunne cook JCS paal
field varane/colback
chair madsen
frey
dembele more to provide cover but more or less fewer defensive responsibilities and to enable us to play with the back 3. more defensive stability with the back 3, JCS, dunne and paal can push up into defensivd midfield when needed and to help overload that space. field and whoever is with him more or less sit back and keep the shape of the team.
madsen needs to simply be removed from all defensive responsibilities at this point. only thing he should be doing is pressing but he shouldn't be dropping deeper to help press or tackle as he's a fish out of water when he does that. if anything i'd even have frey take on that burden while madsen sticks to the center circle at minimum, he's a great passer with good vision so maximise that aspect and cover for his weaknesses. chair just does what chair does, let him operate in a more free role and do the running he's known for.
defensive stability and patience is the key.
when dembele pushes up then dunne or field will take on more of the RWB position but in essence it is a back 3.
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Post by Bill on Oct 8, 2024 11:17:51 GMT
Bill I'm not taking the piss. I was genuinely interested in your team. I'll post mine shortly. Think you are,just trying to fit our most suited and experienced players with a little bit of youth in Lloyd. Its clear when you try to do this,VERY little thought has gone into the additions we have made. Stick by my principal view you cant play lightweights in this league especially 4 in one side. Window has been a disaster and we know who is to blame. Spunked 6 mill on rubbish and let Kakay go and nobody brought in that is better,their judgement sucks. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 8, 2024 11:18:58 GMT
What would your team be any of you given what we have to choose from. Nardi
Dunne Cook JCS Fox
Field Colback
Dembele Chair Saito
Frey |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 8, 2024 11:20:49 GMT
I promise you I'm not Bill (for all we know you could be right about Fox). I only asked because you were saying bench a lot of the players, so I was genuinely interested to know who you'd actually pick |
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Post by Bill on Oct 8, 2024 11:22:58 GMT
for me i'd try a back 3. nardi dembele dunne cook JCS paal field varane/colback chair madsen frey dembele more to provide cover but more or less fewer defensive responsibilities and to enable us to play with the back 3. more defensive stability with the back 3, JCS, dunne and paal can push up into defensivd midfield when needed and to help overload that space. field and whoever is with him more or less sit back and keep the shape of the team. madsen needs to simply be removed from all defensive responsibilities at this point. only thing he should be doing is pressing but he shouldn't be dropping deeper to help press or tackle as he's a fish out of water when he does that. if anything i'd even have frey take on that burden while madsen sticks to the center circle at minimum, he's a great passer with good vision so maximise that aspect and cover for his weaknesses. chair just does what chair does, let him operate in a more free role and do the running he's known for. defensive stability and patience is the key. when dembele pushes up then dunne or field will take on more of the RWB position but in essence it is a back 3. Colback has not been fit/Chair only just back allthough in my team. Madsenn not for me. Just shows you where we are in terms of a squad,a couple of injuried and we are struggling. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 8, 2024 11:26:07 GMT
What would your team be any of you given what we have to choose from. Nardi
Dunne Cook JCS Fox
Field Colback
Dembele Chair Saito
Frey Cant play Saito and Dembele in same team,didnt realise we are including Jcs and Colback. |
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Post by Corbray on Oct 8, 2024 11:27:21 GMT
for me i'd try a back 3. nardi dembele dunne cook JCS paal field varane/colback chair madsen frey dembele more to provide cover but more or less fewer defensive responsibilities and to enable us to play with the back 3. more defensive stability with the back 3, JCS, dunne and paal can push up into defensivd midfield when needed and to help overload that space. field and whoever is with him more or less sit back and keep the shape of the team. madsen needs to simply be removed from all defensive responsibilities at this point. only thing he should be doing is pressing but he shouldn't be dropping deeper to help press or tackle as he's a fish out of water when he does that. if anything i'd even have frey take on that burden while madsen sticks to the center circle at minimum, he's a great passer with good vision so maximise that aspect and cover for his weaknesses. chair just does what chair does, let him operate in a more free role and do the running he's known for. defensive stability and patience is the key. when dembele pushes up then dunne or field will take on more of the RWB position but in essence it is a back 3. Colback has not been fit/Chair only just back allthough in my team. Madsenn not for me. Just shows you where we are in terms of a squad,a couple of injuried and we are struggling. for sure, my team is on the assumption that everyone is fit and ready to go which should be the case after the international break. most of our new signings have been pretty dire, think only nardi can hold his head high while the others have had flashes of quality amongst shit at best. personally wouldn't give up on madsen as he cost us a decent wedge and has something quality there with his passing, vision and dribbling but he's a bit of a one trick pony for now and needs to step it up and be played to his strengths. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 8, 2024 11:31:52 GMT
Nardi
Dunne Cook JCS Fox
Field Colback
Dembele Chair Saito
Frey Cant play Saito and Dembele in same team,didnt realise we are including Jcs and Colback. I think JCS and Colback are due back after this international break. Dembele needs to step up, but he has the talent. With the more experienced players back I'd play him and Saito, personally. It's not ideal but IMO we've no better options. |
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Post by MattyRangers on Oct 8, 2024 11:43:19 GMT
What would your team be any of you given what we have to choose from. Nardi
Dunne Cook JCS Fox
Field Colback
Dembele Chair Saito
Frey Same for me. |
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