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Post by West Acton on Feb 9, 2020 18:29:22 GMT
Missed the boat,should of tried for old white city stadium site when area was shitand prices more realistic or bbc worldwide other side of A40 Few other options have opened up recently long term if their serious |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 9, 2020 18:37:52 GMT
If
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Post by Bill on Feb 10, 2020 9:21:32 GMT
IF....big word that.
Honesty,loyalty to the fans etc come to mind.
The largest word in the world today,depending on your stance and view?
MONEY,CASH,DOUGH,WEDGE.....?
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 6, 2020 18:40:54 GMT
Just seen on SSN Brentford’s stadium cost just 71mill which I believe holds 16,500 people.
Makes me question our owners even more especially with the Linford Christie site in which the council keep saying we are refusing to invest within and potentially want to lease any stadium built on that site.
Surely Loftus Roads site is worth a fair amount and if Brentford were able to build for 71 mill we could look to build a multi purpose 30,000 seater for 200 -250 mill which would revolutionise our ability to compete?
Frustrating to see the club down the road operating and progressing whilst we just seem to stuck in second gear!
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Post by The General on Sept 6, 2020 21:10:14 GMT
Agreed surely you sell the Loftus road land to finance the Longford Christie
That is if we still have a club after this season
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 6, 2020 21:17:31 GMT
Has Linford Christie even been approved yet?
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 6, 2020 21:52:29 GMT
Not yet Ginge, however the council have said on numerous occasions that one of the reasons they aren’t taking our interest seriously is we want the council to find the project.
Anyway the post was more about the costs of developing a stadium as I thought 71 mill wasn’t to bad at all and my point is surely our owners could build something reasonable for 200-250 mill from the sale of Loftus Road.
I hope the stadium is still at the forefront of our owners ambitions as we need one to be able to progress as a club ASAP.
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Post by West Acton on Sept 7, 2020 6:27:34 GMT
Thought council had moved away from that position and done feasibility study which named us as prepared partner and way forward
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 7, 2020 8:28:05 GMT
Thought council had moved away from that position and done feasibility study which named us as prepared partner and way forward That was my understanding Westy |
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 7, 2020 11:18:23 GMT
You are right that the survey conducted overwhelmingly stated that the residents who took part wanted a football stadium and for QPR to be involved.
However, if remember correctly the council quickly made clear they thought the survey had been hijacked by non residents and many QPR fans and they also stated that this issue still remained that QPR were not keen to find the project.
Again I haven’t started the thread as a dig at the club, it came from my shock at how cheap it was for Brentford to build there stadium. We know how much a new stadium is imperative to our future ability to compete financially and I hope it’s something our owners are still seriously pursuing.
Surely the land sales of Loftus Road would provide significant finds to build a Stadium at the Linford Christie site?
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Post by Corbray on Sept 7, 2020 11:45:04 GMT
you'd think that loftus road would generate lots of money and theres a reason why old stadiums sell for so much but newer stadiums are cheaper to buy.
most old stadiums are freeholds which basically means the club will own that bit of land basically forever, thats a very attractive proposition to developers. plus old stadiums tend to be made of concrete so the hardcore from tearing a stadium apart can be sold on. i don't know how much loftus road weighs but i imagine its in the hundreds of thousands of tonnes.
newer stadiums on the other hand are made of lighter, cheaper and not as long lasting materials whilst also being on leaseholded land so will be much cheaper to build and maintain.
its not unreasonable to think that we could sell LR for 100m-200m and build a new stadium with money left over, heck, if we had the money to spare we could easily just build properties of our own at LR to finance the new stadium but thats more longer term.
AFC wimbledon are building apartments at their new stadium site to finance the building of their new ground for example
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 10, 2020 21:53:04 GMT
London Scottish place rival bid,according to wlsport
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Post by Bill on Nov 12, 2020 15:08:18 GMT
London Scottish place rival bid,according to wlsport Sharing with jocks? |
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Post by Corbray on Oct 27, 2021 21:52:43 GMT
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Post by acricketer on Oct 27, 2021 22:55:18 GMT
Well that was a waste of time!
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Post by West Acton on Oct 28, 2021 5:41:02 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 28, 2021 7:02:21 GMT
Unless there are things that we haven’t heard about then I can’t believe how naive clever businessmen have been about finding somewhere. Westy’s HS2 sites ideas would have been perfect but I understand future use of the sites was part of the original plans for the project - which is what you would expect ffs. We should have been on it at the start - maybe we were - maybe we should stick our noses in now with a counter plan, and if he’s talking ten years it might still be possible. Another question for Lee Hoos. And if we aren’t moving for ten years we need some improvements at LR. Difficult but possible.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 28, 2021 7:04:16 GMT
I still think we’ll end up at the training complex☹️
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Post by West Acton on Oct 28, 2021 8:38:30 GMT
Suppose could be us trying out bit of pressure on council saying you have a huge costly piece of land there you can’t afford to up keep and unless you change position you won’t have us as fall back position help you out
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Post by West Acton on Oct 28, 2021 8:42:11 GMT
Our stadium position is off as you look round west London and you seem to be able to build whatever you like and get permission but we find it impossible
Opposite Acton Main Line station they are regenerating friary estate and on of the blocks is potentially going be four stories short of the shards height. Westfield is just growing bigger and bigger as is OOC
i have another suggestion for ground but it’s it wacky and outside the box and you guys might laugh at me 🤣😂
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Post by The General on Oct 28, 2021 9:11:59 GMT
Please dont say ground share with the bus stop
Or the Tarquins Westy
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Post by Corbray on Oct 28, 2021 9:44:16 GMT
i find it weird that the council wouldn't want to assist us in every possible way to keep us in the borough. lots of local businesses depend on fans going there on matchdays and i'm sure a stadium at LC would get far more use than a music venue for example.
i wonder where we could move too? ealing and acton both seem like logical moves.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 28, 2021 9:59:12 GMT
Our stadium position is off as you look round west London and you seem to be able to build whatever you like and get permission but we find it impossible Opposite Acton Main Line station they are regenerating friary estate and on of the blocks is potentially going be four stories short of the shards height. Westfield is just growing bigger and bigger as is OOC i have another suggestion for ground but it’s it wacky and outside the box and you guys might laugh at me 🤣😂 Like that would bother you…, |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 28, 2021 11:13:29 GMT
10 years is nothing. My eldest was at Southend as a 13 year old and they had bit of land sorted and was supposed to of broken ground 3 years b4 then. He 25 at xmas and guck all still happening
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Post by Hitman34 on Oct 28, 2021 12:44:19 GMT
Sorry if I’m wrong here but the problem is the owners want the council to give us the land for free.
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 28, 2021 13:00:26 GMT
Sounds a bit like a marketing conversation to be honest. Us saying again that we are looking elsewhere in the hope that we get asked to stay. It all depends what the owners want. They will have to buy the land, which sounds like it isn't a problem but the problem is, we don't want to buy it.
"give us free land to stay in your borough, so that we can then put loads of flats in at LR and make even more millions". I can see why the council aren't just saying yes. Have we offered to buy the land? Last I saw was a consultation about 3 options but I don't remember the outcome.
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Post by Hitman34 on Oct 28, 2021 13:51:56 GMT
Sounds a bit like a marketing conversation to be honest. Us saying again that we are looking elsewhere in the hope that we get asked to stay. It all depends what the owners want. They will have to buy the land, which sounds like it isn't a problem but the problem is, we don't want to buy it. "give us free land to stay in your borough, so that we can then put loads of flats in at LR and make even more millions". I can see why the council aren't just saying yes. Have we offered to buy the land? Last I saw was a consultation about 3 options but I don't remember the outcome. H&f released a statement today saying they cannot justify handing over multi millions of pounds worth of land for free. If the owners don’t wish to pay, then the council suggests that the fans can do it with some scheme in which the stadium would be fans owned. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 28, 2021 14:17:12 GMT
Like a Labour Council is going to do anything sensible or useful.
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 28, 2021 14:32:37 GMT
Sorry if I’m wrong here but the problem is the owners want the council to give us the land for free. I'd say that is most likely the issue here from what I've read. Is it normal to expect the council to just offer up the land for free? Seems like maybe we are taking the piss a bit. That said, I've not really taken an interest into whether other borough councils have done this when sports teams have been developing new stadiums in the past. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 28, 2021 14:43:55 GMT
It’s like a bit what happens on that place on sun program.
Eg owner wants £130.000, buyer offers 90 saying they want to change stuff etc.
So owner has to loose out and fiund the cants tastes whom want to buy it.
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