Embarrassing.

haven't seen a replay of the penalty yet but friends have told me it wasn't one!

even so i think brentford were the better team and even though we had more of the ball in the second half they still looked more dangerous going forward.

embarrassing performance though imo and a big shakeup needed starting with scowen

If there's anyone out there who's seriously called for his head theyve got no clue what they're on about.

CCJ, I wouldn't describe the response to the first goal as an over-reaction as the defending for it was absolutely shocking; and because the defence has been a very clear weakness this season I think it's only reasonable for fans to highlight this, especially as it doesn't appear to be being addressed if the last two games are anything to go by. Then that frustration is only further compounded by the fact that our attack has been SO good. Had that not been the case I think people would be a bit more accepting of the situation because, as some have said, a genuine opportunity to seize upon the mediocrity of the surrounding teams has been there.

Well I did say 'what I would call' an over-reaction. Clearly that is my opinion and not everyones as we wouldn't be having this discussion.
The defending has been the weak link I 100% agree. I am not sure I get your point about people being more accepting though. For me I am more accepting because I am seeing some great attacking football and we are still over-achieving given our financial position etc. Let us not forget we were second favourites to go down this season. We know how teams in this division beat each other every week. Reading and Brentford both looked far better than their league positions would suggest.

 A complacent one I'd say.

No one should be immune to a critique. Warburton has done some good things, but he has also been remiss in key areas, most notably at the back.

More tellingly, he's motivational skills are questionable. We've been bullied a couple of times this term and players go missing when the going gets tough. That's an attitude thing, and that comes from the gaffer.  Its not OK to go into a local derby and hide when the pressure comes on. Lack of commmitment should always be inexcusable, but in a derby.....

Never mind a triangle, the whole bloody orchestra was out of tune!

I'd still take what we have now over what we have had for the last 7-8 years. He was never going to build a brand new Rolls Royce out of a parts bin assembly of players was he. To think any different shows a deep lack of understanding of what is happening at QPR this season. I don't know if you were at the KPFS last night but we didn't hide, or go missing, we just weren't good enough for them over 90 minutes and, but for a couple of farcical refereeing decisions, still could have scraped a draw. You appear to have unrealistic expectations of this side which, considering QPR were among the favourites for relegation pre season, I would have thought being in the top ten would have satiated, but apparently not. 
If it doesn't get any better than it is now for the rest of the season I will still be glad to turn up to every game, I am enjoying this season. I am struggling, without searching, to think of any post where you have been positive about what has happened to QPR this season, it comes across as unrelenting criticism of a hodge podge of kids, freebies and loanees who deserve better than that.

Lol. That is true.

Hughill brings presence and yep defo missed him. Elbows up striker and they would have left the pitch black and blue knowing they had been in a game

That's an analogy, not hyperbole.

I agree Esox, that some of the football we play, actually most of the football we play now, is far more entertaining and value for money than in recent years. And I agree that the manager has done an exceptional job with very limited resources. And I’m perfectly happy to accept that the course of the game was drastically changed by an appalling refereeing decision. So bad in fact, that I sincerely hope that there are repercussions in terms of “time off to reflect”.

However, 😄 You surely cannot witness last night’s performance and not find an enormous amount to criticise in absolutely every area of the pitch. The defence have absolutely no idea when it comes to positioning, or about when to close down or stand off. The midfield is every bit as guilty of neglecting their defensive roles. Consistently. There simply is no other explanation as to why we are the ONLY club in the entire division not to have kept a single clean sheet. No amount of allowances for youth, inexperience, cheap signings etc., can be used as continuing excuses for both the players and indeed the manager, not doing their job properly.

Professional footballers at this level should NOT be so sloppy with their passing. They should be far more aware of what is going on around them. And if they are guilty of either, which many of them regularly are, then they really do need to start working at these issues on the training ground. And the manager should be ramming these points home. I’m not certain though, whether or not it’s his style to do so based upon the recently posted and excellent video of him running a session for some young players. At that age, I can see why he is telling them not to worry about making mistakes. My concern is that he does the same with the first team squad, because I have yet to see any of them eradicate such basic errors from their games, despite obvious improvements to other aspects.

Funnily enough, like Westy, the term “gutless” came into my head several times last night. The way we started the game, with absolutely zero attempt to dictate the way the game was played. The way we allowed them the time and space to play to their strengths, which I assume they would argue was doing what they were asked to do. I’m sure I cannot be alone in feeling very frustrated whilst watching us pissing about playing little triangles around our own box whilst we are losing and time is ticking away. And then after all that, which some would regard as playing out from the back, losing possession with a dreadful pass which fails to find our own players, or plays one into trouble.

I genuinely don’t wish to complain for the sake of it. And far from moaning because we aren’t good enough to be comfortably in a top 6 spot, I would argue that we most definitely are. I’ve seen just how well some of our players have performed this season, both individually AND as a team and I am convinced we are easily good enough. All we appear to be lacking is the consistency to do it a little more often and weird acceptance that it’s OK to waste totting up the points because we are doing better than expected.

Despite the dodgy penalty ruining the game, Brentford performed far better than we did last night and therefore, we can’t really complain about losing. But the point a lot of us seem to be making is that it wasn’t because they were exceptional, it was because we were so dreadful. Nowhere near as dreadful as for most of the last few years, but no point in sugar coating it. We are capable of so much better, so should be striving to perform much better EVERY time we take the pitch.

Thought we came out motivated and up for the fight in the second half and early on looked like getting the upper hand in the match. Penalty deflated us.

That's another point about posession based football...

A few years ago posession was seen as everything. But then sides started winning huge competitions with less posession (ie EPL/Leicester and France last world cup), using a really fast counter based on moving it into areas while keeping it on the deck.

You have to be able to transition at pace these days.

Absolutely, and I think most can. It's nuanced.