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Nov 19, 2019 19:54:20 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 19, 2019 19:54:20 GMT
Teabags sack...
The argue breaking news
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Nov 19, 2019 20:57:20 GMT
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Post by Corbray on Nov 19, 2019 20:57:20 GMT
can't blame them after their poor start. he'll be at utd soon i reckon.
spurs have been incredibly lucky though with their scouting and players like kane and alli (not atm though) bursting onto the scene but you can't do what they do and think theres gunna be any proper long term success
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 6:44:47 GMT
can't blame them after their poor start. he'll be at utd soon i reckon. spurs have been incredibly lucky though with their scouting and players like kane and alli (not atm though) bursting onto the scene but you can't do what they do and think theres gunna be any proper long term success A good five years and champs league final didn't buy him any credit to survive the first rocky patch they hit? Hope they slip back to their norm of mediocrity again for years to come. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 7:01:28 GMT
Mourinho appointed new manager
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Nov 20, 2019 8:13:17 GMT
Very harsh to say they have been incredibly lucky.
Poch will be rightly snapped up by someone. All you need to know about modern football is in this sacking and subsequent appointment.
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Post by hubble on Nov 20, 2019 8:33:06 GMT
Very harsh to say they have been incredibly lucky. Poch will be rightly snapped up by someone. All you need to know about modern football is in this sacking and subsequent appointment. Depressing, ain't it Pete. I'd feel sorry for the Spurs fans, except... I don't feel sorry for them! It's like watching some kind of gruesome pantomime. |
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Post by lymehoop on Nov 20, 2019 10:05:25 GMT
GOBSMACKED and a tad sad
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Nov 20, 2019 10:30:06 GMT
Very harsh to say they have been incredibly lucky. Poch will be rightly snapped up by someone. All you need to know about modern football is in this sacking and subsequent appointment. Depressing, ain't it Pete. I'd feel sorry for the Spurs fans, except... I don't feel sorry for them! It's like watching some kind of gruesome pantomime. It is but at least it's seasonal I suppose  |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Nov 20, 2019 10:35:23 GMT
Cue Mourinho turning it all around and them actually winning a cup this season.
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Nov 20, 2019 11:41:17 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 20, 2019 11:41:17 GMT
I actually think Spurs have been quite patient with Potch. Their form for the last 30 or 40 games has been horrific. OK, they made the Champions League final. But even with that, if you examine the performances, from the latter stages of the group onwards they were actually quite fortunate in that competition too.
When you see Leicester City and Sheff Utd in the running for the Champions League spots, and Spurs on the fringes of the relegation scrap after 12 games, what else were Spurs' board really going to do? With the squad they have, anything but European qualification this year (especially in light of the fact that Arsenal and Man Utd are struggling) would be an absolute disaster.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 20, 2019 12:24:20 GMT
Once spurs fans have sat through two seasons of Holloway they get my sympathy until then there is none
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Nov 20, 2019 12:32:06 GMT
I actually think Spurs have been quite patient with Potch. Their form for the last 30 or 40 games has been horrific. OK, they made the Champions League final. But even with that if you examine the performances, from the latter stages of the group onwards they were actually quite fortunate in that Competition too. When you see Leicester City and Sheff Utd in the running for the Champions League spots, and Spurs on the fringes of the relegation scrap after 12 games, what else were Spurs' board really going to do? With the squad they have, anything but European qualification this year (especially in light of the fact that Arsenal and Man Utd are struggling) would be an absolute disaster. I did hear it quoted this morning that they had got something like a point a game from the last 26 which is relegation form. I think it seems clear that the rumours before the season started about a dressing room bust-up must have been true. |
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 20, 2019 12:33:42 GMT
I actually think Spurs have been quite patient with Potch. Their form for the last 30 or 40 games has been horrific. OK, they made the Champions League final. But even with that if you examine the performances, from the latter stages of the group onwards they were actually quite fortunate in that Competition too. When you see Leicester City and Sheff Utd in the running for the Champions League spots, and Spurs on the fringes of the relegation scrap after 12 games, what else were Spurs' board really going to do? With the squad they have, anything but European qualification this year (especially in light of the fact that Arsenal and Man Utd are struggling) would be an absolute disaster. I think there's a lot we don't know. Despite all the outpouring of love, the board / manager / squad linkage had broked down completely at Spurs. All three elements have to bear some responsibility for where they are now. Poch was in the middle, and when you loose either the board or the dressing room that's game over. Mourinho? My main worry wouldn't be that he parks the bus, but rather whether he can get it moving again as quickly as you need to in the modern game, transitions have to be fast these days if you play a low posession game. Tbf though he did it at Inter, they had one of the most devastating counters you'll see. Heard that Rogers was the main target. Funny to think that when he couldn't get a job over here and we were managerless (again) a few far sighted people urged contact with him.... Would have been money well spent. Instead we went for some horrible throwback as per usual, we've had more than one in recent times. Doesn't matter if it's Uncle or Levy though. The chairman has to take responsibility for the crash. |
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 20, 2019 13:08:33 GMT
CCJ, Hal, totally agree. Clearly something has gone on behind the scenes that has caused a loss or morale. Perhaps just contractual stuff. Spurs have a good few players in their last 2 years and it's pretty well documented that they don't pay as much as some of the other top sides. Perhaps players just not getting the contract renewal offers they wanted was enough to throw a few top players off form.
Even if the above is true, what else were Spurs going to do? The manager always pays the price when a teams form dips as bad as Spurs' has. Whether Mourinho is a better manager than Potch or not (and that's probably too close to call in my opinion), a change of ideas and a new voice may be enough to kick start Spurs' season. I personally think Mourinho will do OK there. He's got some good lads in that squad who I think will get behind him. Regardless of what caused the loss of form, I think Spurs have a far better dressing room than Mourinho had at United. Historically he has always struggled managing egos (probably cos he has a significantly sized one himself), the tactical side of his game has always been on point!
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Post by shepherdsmush on Nov 20, 2019 13:47:44 GMT
Spurs fans will all forget about Pochettino when Mourinho delivers the first silverware since George Graham.
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Post by 72bus on Nov 20, 2019 14:30:38 GMT
From mouriniho. " It's always been my ambition to manage a big club in London "
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Nov 20, 2019 15:54:57 GMT
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Post by Timmy Doc on Nov 20, 2019 15:54:57 GMT
Mourinho, this won't end well.
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 20, 2019 16:08:55 GMT
From mouriniho. " It's always been my ambition to manage a big club in London " class |
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Post by hubble on Nov 20, 2019 16:48:07 GMT
Isn't one issue that Pochettino wasn't fully backed by Levy in the transfer market? Had he been able to refresh the squad - as it clearly needed - then I think they could have pushed on. However I really don't like Spurs, so it's difficult for me to give a shit. Perhaps Pochettino had reached his limit. There's something in that too: the most successful managers have that something extra and maybe he just doesn't have it.
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Nov 20, 2019 16:51:27 GMT
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Post by Rangers77 on Nov 20, 2019 16:51:27 GMT
Bring back Bill Nicholson.
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Post by hubble on Nov 20, 2019 17:46:15 GMT
Isn't one issue that Pochettino wasn't fully backed by Levy in the transfer market? Had he been able to refresh the squad - as it clearly needed - then I think they could have pushed on. However I really don't like Spurs, so it's difficult for me to give a shit. Perhaps Pochettino had reached his limit. There's something in that too: the most successful managers have that something extra and maybe he just doesn't have it. This article takes my point a stage further - that Pochettino's failure to refresh the squad has led to the situation now: www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/nov/20/mauricio-pochettino-spurs-jose-mourinho-gamble-jonathan-wilson |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Nov 20, 2019 17:53:33 GMT
I can't imagine us having a meltdown if we replaced a manager who won fuck all with one that has pretty much got the best record of winning trophies in the World......
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 20, 2019 19:02:04 GMT
Isn't one issue that Pochettino wasn't fully backed by Levy in the transfer market? Had he been able to refresh the squad - as it clearly needed - then I think they could have pushed on. However I really don't like Spurs, so it's difficult for me to give a shit. Perhaps Pochettino had reached his limit. There's something in that too: the most successful managers have that something extra and maybe he just doesn't have it. Yeah, they certainly were very careful of expenditure during the stadium build. I also think that maybe they are a bit too stingy to venture into the current transfer market as much as they need to. To be honest, I don't blame them for that. Look how badly Man Utd have been ripped off trying to keep up with the other big clubs in the transfer market. Sometimes clubs just have to roll the dice and bring in a manager with some fresh ideas when things aren't working out. It happens in all walks of life, not just football. After 5 years both parties may just benefit from a change. |
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Post by hubble on Nov 20, 2019 20:29:45 GMT
Isn't one issue that Pochettino wasn't fully backed by Levy in the transfer market? Had he been able to refresh the squad - as it clearly needed - then I think they could have pushed on. However I really don't like Spurs, so it's difficult for me to give a shit. Perhaps Pochettino had reached his limit. There's something in that too: the most successful managers have that something extra and maybe he just doesn't have it. Yeah, they certainly were very careful of expenditure during the stadium build. I also think that maybe they are a bit too stingy to venture into the current transfer market as much as they need to. To be honest, I don't blame them for that. Look how badly Man Utd have been ripped off trying to keep up with the other big clubs in the transfer market. Sometimes clubs just have to roll the dice and bring in a manager with some fresh ideas when things aren't working out. It happens in all walks of life, not just football. After 5 years both parties may just benefit from a change. Remind me, who was the manager when Utd got ripped off in the transfer market? |
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Post by Shania on Nov 20, 2019 21:31:32 GMT
Jo Nesbo, who is a supporter of Spurs, called this change of manager something like replacing Luke Skywater with Darth Vader.  |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 20, 2019 21:39:54 GMT
I can't imagine us having a meltdown if we replaced a manager who won fuck all with one that has pretty much got the best record of winning trophies in the World...... Tbf poch would fit in at ours,as we won fuck all for years |
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Post by 72bus on Nov 20, 2019 23:15:51 GMT
Not buying in 2 windows done Spurs , good 11 weak squad . Saying that he never knew his best 11...;anyway big pay off and he'll get another job in football
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 21, 2019 5:42:39 GMT
Yeah, they certainly were very careful of expenditure during the stadium build. I also think that maybe they are a bit too stingy to venture into the current transfer market as much as they need to. To be honest, I don't blame them for that. Look how badly Man Utd have been ripped off trying to keep up with the other big clubs in the transfer market. Sometimes clubs just have to roll the dice and bring in a manager with some fresh ideas when things aren't working out. It happens in all walks of life, not just football. After 5 years both parties may just benefit from a change. Remind me, who was the manager when Utd got ripped off in the transfer market? But Mourinho wasn't calling the shots on transfers at Utd or negotiating the salaries. The problems at that club run much higher up the food chain than the Manager. |
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Post by hubble on Nov 21, 2019 7:57:54 GMT
Remind me, who was the manager when Utd got ripped off in the transfer market? But Mourinho wasn't calling the shots on transfers at Utd or negotiating the salaries. The problems at that club run much higher up the food chain than the Manager. You telling me Mourinho had no involvement in those transfers Tarbs? |
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Post by hubble on Nov 21, 2019 8:18:36 GMT
Anyway, let's just consider what a beautiful thing it would be if Spuds went down with him in charge. Not as beautiful as Arse'n'all going down, but still a 9.9 on the schadenfreude scale.
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