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Post by spongeparr on Jan 26, 2021 14:27:08 GMT
He isn't going anywhere. 2 wins and then defeat to Derby has not changed my opinion of him. It would appear our board are prepared to gamble and take the risk that we will not get relegated. I really hope they are right and we avoid the drop which would be catastrophic with very serious consequences for the club we love. I'm not saying he is brilliant, far from it. His relentless talking about the demands on the players whilst sounding like they are always off is baffling to me. It's the same for everyone so get on with it. But, as my post above says, he is doing everything us fans have asked for.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 26, 2021 14:34:05 GMT
The signing of Charlie has given the squad a lift which in turn has saved him for now. Still not got Adomah firing which we need as he will need to be playing once the BOS has gone.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 26, 2021 16:15:42 GMT
I would rather see Adomah play over Willock. Having said that, Willock looked to be growing in confidence the more the game against Derby went on.
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 26, 2021 16:17:32 GMT
Warbs has done everything that is asked.
No he hasn't.
1) It took him far too long to sort out basic defending and cover issues, we were in pain for months.
2) Still tactically inept, schooled by Derby and unable to respond with basic changes required. That bit worries me.
3) We still can't even manage corners let alone a decent set piece. It's pathetic. I've literally seen better on Hackney Marshes.
Admittedly the squad is threadbare, the coaching staff poor (QED), and the DoF not fit for purpose but by choosing to stay he has rubber stamped the situation.
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Post by Shania on Jan 26, 2021 17:09:37 GMT
If we have to change manager to survive in this division, then we have to sack him at some point. League one is not an option financially,imo.
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 26, 2021 22:28:43 GMT
Thanks for posting sponge. I like his reasoning: "We cannot forget that behind every football player is a human being with emotions and feelings. If they are part of our squad it is because they have the quality to be here. If they have the quality to be here then we have to show them that we trust in their ability."
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 27, 2021 12:31:19 GMT
League one is not an option financially,imo.
yeah I'm not sure if they've really grasped that. There is no other explanation for the incompetence.
No one on here will agree, but imho the way the cub is being run now holds as many pitfalls as the supermarket dash days.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 2, 2021 0:00:59 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 6, 2021 20:12:35 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Feb 6, 2021 21:31:48 GMT
This used to be a busy thread
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 6, 2021 21:43:09 GMT
This used to be a busy thread Next bad run it'll get busy, trust me! 😅
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Post by Shania on Feb 6, 2021 21:46:18 GMT
Well done to Warburton & Co. The boss himself was in a very good mood.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 6, 2021 21:54:35 GMT
Turned it around hasn't he. Some on here will be pissed 🤣
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Post by Greg1882 on Feb 6, 2021 22:08:54 GMT
Was one of his biggest critics on here because I thought he’d be too stubborn to mix it up and change the system to suit what we’ve got. I’m delighted to be eating humble pie and well done for turning the tide. We all want stability as it normally goes hand in hand with success. Fair play to the club for not pulling the trigger. One benifit if not having a crowd atm. We look a different side now
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 6, 2021 22:20:47 GMT
Was one of his biggest critics on here because I thought he’d be too stubborn to mix it up and change the system to suit what we’ve got. I’m delighted to be eating humble pie and well done for turning the tide. We all want stability as it normally goes hand in hand with success. Fair play to the club for not pulling the trigger. One benifit if not having a crowd atm. We look a different side now In that camp as well and very pleased that we have found a system that suits the players we have. Fair play to him and lets hope he stays on this track.
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 6, 2021 22:23:19 GMT
Think that moving Cameron into the back line has been a good move overall as the defence is now better organised and we have a keeper who brings confidence.
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 8, 2021 12:02:44 GMT
I think we're going in the right direction.
Don't get some of the bile directed at players - Dykes especially. OK, he's going through a lean spell after starting so strongly, but he'll come good.
If our squad was as good as some seem to expect, we'd be in the Prem!
We've cut our cloth according to our means over the last couple of years and the club is all the better for it.
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Post by Shania on Feb 8, 2021 12:36:08 GMT
Turned it around hasn't he. Some on here will be pissed 🤣 With all due respect Ginger Ninja, we have all been very critical of him. Except for Croydon I think. And to be honest; I think it`s the managment as a team, in addition to the signing of CA, the return of Dieng and a few other signings I have not mentioned, assumed conducted by Les Ferdinand, that the tide now seems to have turned..
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 8, 2021 13:10:42 GMT
Turned it around hasn't he. Some on here will be pissed 🤣 Not if you are a real supporter no, you'll be pleased, but the real point is how long it's taken him when, apart from Charlie, the changes have been under his nose for ages. He tried a back 3 before, it looked promising got fans going but he reverted to a four. We've looked good in games where we got the ball forward quicker and there were lots of favourable comments but we reverted to pissing about across the field in our own half while opponents got back. Too often we've looked promising in a first half only to come out looking lost. True, he hasn't got much to play with but he's only got himself to blame for not changing things sooner. Criticism was valid at the time, you can't pretend it was wrong with hindsight.
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 8, 2021 17:26:52 GMT
Turned it around hasn't he. Some on here will be pissed 🤣 Not if you are a real supporter no, you'll be pleased, but the real point is how long it's taken him when, apart from Charlie, the changes have been under his nose for ages. He tried a back 3 before, it looked promising got fans going but he reverted to a four. We've looked good in games where we got the ball forward quicker and there were lots of favourable comments but we reverted to pissing about across the field in our own half while opponents got back. Too often we've looked promising in a first half only to come out looking lost. True, he hasn't got much to play with but he's only got himself to blame for not changing things sooner. Criticism was valid at the time, you can't pretend it was wrong with hindsight. Lets get things in order here that the signing of Charlie Austin has saved his job. He looked beat and the players looked like they lost belief so yes digging him out was in order at the time just like giving him a bit of credit where it is due for turning things around is in order right now.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 8, 2021 19:43:25 GMT
Turned it around hasn't he. Some on here will be pissed 🤣 Not if you are a real supporter no, you'll be pleased, but the real point is how long it's taken him when, apart from Charlie, the changes have been under his nose for ages. He tried a back 3 before, it looked promising got fans going but he reverted to a four. We've looked good in games where we got the ball forward quicker and there were lots of favourable comments but we reverted to pissing about across the field in our own half while opponents got back. Too often we've looked promising in a first half only to come out looking lost. True, he hasn't got much to play with but he's only got himself to blame for not changing things sooner. Criticism was valid at the time, you can't pretend it was wrong with hindsight. Never said it was wrong, I criticised him as much as anyone else. But you can't tell me that some aren't thinking ah ffs he's turned it round, I want him out.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 8, 2021 20:09:19 GMT
Not if you are a real supporter no, you'll be pleased, but the real point is how long it's taken him when, apart from Charlie, the changes have been under his nose for ages. He tried a back 3 before, it looked promising got fans going but he reverted to a four. We've looked good in games where we got the ball forward quicker and there were lots of favourable comments but we reverted to pissing about across the field in our own half while opponents got back. Too often we've looked promising in a first half only to come out looking lost. True, he hasn't got much to play with but he's only got himself to blame for not changing things sooner. Criticism was valid at the time, you can't pretend it was wrong with hindsight. Never said it was wrong, I criticised him as much as anyone else. But you can't tell me that some aren't thinking ah ffs he's turned it round, I want him out. I think a lot now depends on how he plays out the rest of the season mate. We don't need the upheaval of change but we have to stay clear of trouble now we've started to improve.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 8, 2021 20:39:28 GMT
Never said it was wrong, I criticised him as much as anyone else. But you can't tell me that some aren't thinking ah ffs he's turned it round, I want him out. I think a lot now depends on how he plays out the rest of the season mate. We don't need the upheaval of change but we have to stay clear of trouble now we've started to improve. More of the same will do me mate. We're not playing the best football we have played under Warbs, but we are now getting results and playing at least with a bit more confidence.
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Post by James1979 on Feb 8, 2021 23:57:02 GMT
Not if you are a real supporter no, you'll be pleased, but the real point is how long it's taken him when, apart from Charlie, the changes have been under his nose for ages. He tried a back 3 before, it looked promising got fans going but he reverted to a four. We've looked good in games where we got the ball forward quicker and there were lots of favourable comments but we reverted to pissing about across the field in our own half while opponents got back. Too often we've looked promising in a first half only to come out looking lost. True, he hasn't got much to play with but he's only got himself to blame for not changing things sooner. Criticism was valid at the time, you can't pretend it was wrong with hindsight. Never said it was wrong, I criticised him as much as anyone else. But you can't tell me that some aren't thinking ah ffs he's turned it round, I want him out. I wanted him out but I’m definitely not in camp that’s disappointed he’s turned it round. Always liked him and same can’t be said for our last few managers.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 18, 2021 0:19:09 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 20, 2021 19:57:28 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Feb 20, 2021 19:59:13 GMT
He’s very clear there about having to rest players so I Would anticipate a changed side midweek
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 28, 2021 13:55:39 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 16, 2021 17:07:25 GMT
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Post by 2Loftus on May 6, 2021 12:15:02 GMT
Just spent 56 minutes listening to this over a cup of tea and a Hobnob... Interesting, thoughtful, intelligent stuff
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