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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 23, 2022 17:58:58 GMT
Talking about the total cost of the squad. Ours is seventh cheapest in the Championship, cheaper even than Barnsley. Arguably we have been getting the points return the last two months that you would expect given the budget. We were punching above our weight massively, now we have just reverted more to our natural position alas. Yes I understand what your saying although I truly believe the players MW had at his disposal should have provided us with a play off place irrespective of budgets with the position we found ourselves in.around January. Watching MW post match today emphasises he has no real remedy in place to expect any changes in fluctuation in performances next season. Are you in favour of him being given another year Stainrod ? Unless someone obviously better is available to us, yes. Wd Daniel Farke come to us for eg? And is he any better than Warbs? Or were his two promotions with Norwich more to do with the fact he probably had a budget ten times bigger than ours?
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 23, 2022 18:01:51 GMT
Talking about the total cost of the squad. Ours is seventh cheapest in the Championship, cheaper even than Barnsley. Arguably we have been getting the points return the last two months that you would expect given the budget. We were punching above our weight massively, now we have just reverted more to our natural position alas. 25 points from last 20, 12 from last 15…..that’s a lot worse than what you say. It’s also a sizeable number of games to make a judgement. Its been poor, not going to sugar coat it. Just don't see the point in sacking him in the hope that the board appoint someone better - they haven't got a massively good track record there. Generally speaking stable clubs do better than unstable ones.
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Post by James1979 on Apr 23, 2022 18:09:16 GMT
25 points from last 20, 12 from last 15…..that’s a lot worse than what you say. It’s also a sizeable number of games to make a judgement. Its been poor, not going to sugar coat it. Just don't see the point in sacking him in the hope that the board appoint someone better - they haven't got a massively good track record there. Generally speaking stable clubs do better than unstable ones. Agree in that no point getting rid if no one better about. But he’s been here a while and been hacked this year. There have been injuries but the most recent form is rubbish. He also doesn’t seem to know how to address the slide.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 23, 2022 18:59:13 GMT
Its been poor, not going to sugar coat it. Just don't see the point in sacking him in the hope that the board appoint someone better - they haven't got a massively good track record there. Generally speaking stable clubs do better than unstable ones. Agree in that no point getting rid if no one better about. But he’s been here a while and been hacked this year. There have been injuries but the most recent form is rubbish. He also doesn’t seem to know how to address the slide. Fully accept today selections were baffling. They have a 39-year-old centre half. Surely you play your fastest centre forward against him? Plus taking off Amos who admittedly was poor - he often is - but about the one player who might actually score. And when its sh*t or bust play Adomah for a decent stretch - he might just unlock something.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 23, 2022 19:01:19 GMT
Warbs speaks
But it seems no one listening anymore
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 23, 2022 19:23:41 GMT
Truly dreadful interview. No probing questions about tactics or selections. Pointless.
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Post by sparks on Apr 23, 2022 19:58:53 GMT
I think the young lad on WLS Dan Bennett does an honest job at posing more challenging questions to MW.
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Post by Tarbie on May 7, 2022 0:06:10 GMT
Sam Field is our best performer of the season apparently.
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Post by alanwycombe on May 7, 2022 5:52:02 GMT
Master of the non-interview interview
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Post by jfrabbit on May 7, 2022 7:04:05 GMT
Sam Field is our best performer of the season apparently. Was about to listen but I don't think I'll bother after reading that!
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Post by Stanley75 on May 7, 2022 8:18:09 GMT
Too buddy buddy.
Poor journalism imo if you’re not prepared to ask difficult questions.
We know MW has a habit of snapping at reporters but that’s their job and they shouldn’t let it deter them. Much better to have it out and row. That way you might actually get to some facking truth.
As Lennon so eloquently put it:
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Post by Tarbie on May 7, 2022 8:46:30 GMT
It took me a while to realise that the bloke just chats utter bollocks. Once I'd picked up on the sort of ways he spins interviews, subtly bigs himself up and deflects criticism, I kinda lost interest in hearing what he says.
As you say Stan, nobody ever genuinely challenges the guy. It's just a platform for him to throw out some spin and propaganda.
If he genuinely believes that Sam Field has been out best performer then he probably shouldn't work in football management again.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 7, 2022 8:55:59 GMT
Tarbs, all season long, why has nobody ever questioned him about Andre Gray, by far his best goalscorer with a 1:2 conversion ratio, and his constant refusal to give him a run of games and playing Dykes instead.
That, as far as I'm concerned, is plain amateurish journalism.
I mean at least facking ask him the question, even if there is a valid explanation for fucks sake. You (the reporter) might know the answer but NEVER assume the paying fan and reader do!!
Instead we've had to content with this buddy buddy shit all season long. Boils my piss tbh. That's not the job of a journalist you ****. He's been in the job 20 years, so should know better.
It's ruined his legacy as a QPR manager as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Rangers77 on May 7, 2022 9:17:16 GMT
Sam Field is our best performer of the season apparently. 😂😂🤣🤣🤡🤡 No goals. No assists. No forward passes. No threat. Thank God he's gone.
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Post by alanwycombe on May 7, 2022 9:40:24 GMT
He just takes over and talks and talks until you can’t be bothered to listen anymore. Should be a politician.
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Post by jfrabbit on May 7, 2022 10:29:25 GMT
That McCullogh is a fucking plum anyway. Talks so much shit on twitter I can't believe he actually makes a living from what he does. Delusional. Any valid points he tries to poo poo. Arse licker of the highest order.
Too scared to ask a question in case he's not granted another session with the King Warburton
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Post by hal9thou on May 7, 2022 10:48:00 GMT
That McCullogh is a fucking plum anyway. Talks so much shit on twitter I can't believe he actually makes a living from what he does. Delusional. Any valid points he tries to poo poo. Arse licker of the highest order. Too scared to ask a question in case he's not granted another session with the King Warburton It's not even pretending to be proper journalism, never was. #gafferspin
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Post by sparks on May 18, 2022 17:48:25 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on May 18, 2022 17:54:28 GMT
Is this actually worth watching? WLS don't have a great track record on impartial journalism with regards to the Breadman!
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Post by sparks on May 18, 2022 18:09:32 GMT
There’s nothing much in there that we don’t already know Tarbie but a decent summary of how the season panned out.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jun 2, 2022 13:06:37 GMT
Isn`t 3-5-2(with variations) the system that all our teams are playing? I’m not so sure all our youth sides play the same way Shania. David McIntyre described youth team players being sent to play with the first team and MW refusing to accept them due to being unfamiliar with the system. MB mentions “alignment of club policy on youth team players “ in his interveiws. I don't think Warburton was refusing to accept youth team players because they were unfamiliar with the system. According to McIntyre Warbs wasn't impressed with youth players and did not believe youngsters of sufficient ability were in the system. Different thing IMO.
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Post by Corbray on Jun 2, 2022 13:23:14 GMT
to add to timmy's point i think ramsay has said that all youth teams play the same style too. its not about results but churning out players who can slot in.
i do think our academy has come on leaps and bounds since ramsay came in though. hopefully we can produce one or two more players, everyone knows about armstrong but i'm curious to see how kakay gets on under beale. i've been a big critic of kakay in the past but who knows
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Post by sparks on Jun 2, 2022 14:05:27 GMT
I’m not so sure all our youth sides play the same way Shania. David McIntyre described youth team players being sent to play with the first team and MW refusing to accept them due to being unfamiliar with the system. MB mentions “alignment of club policy on youth team players “ in his interveiws. I don't think Warburton was refusing to accept youth team players because they were unfamiliar with the system. According to McIntyre Warbs wasn't impressed with youth players and did not believe youngsters of sufficient ability were in the system. Different thing IMO. www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/57727
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jun 2, 2022 14:25:20 GMT
I don't think Warburton was refusing to accept youth team players because they were unfamiliar with the system. According to McIntyre Warbs wasn't impressed with youth players and did not believe youngsters of sufficient ability were in the system. Different thing IMO. www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/57727That's Whittingham's interpretation or rumour. McIntyre's true words are what I wrote.
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Post by sparks on Jun 2, 2022 14:51:40 GMT
That's Whittingham's interpretation or rumour. McIntyre's true words are what I wrote. That could be said of any article that’s written and probably depends what you want to believe if not present.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jun 2, 2022 14:57:21 GMT
That's Whittingham's interpretation or rumour. McIntyre's true words are what I wrote. That could be said of any article that’s written and probably depends what you want to believe if not present. That's true, but your original post referred to McIntyre's sayings and I referred to an article which he wrote himself.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 2, 2022 15:10:57 GMT
I’m not so sure all our youth sides play the same way Shania. David McIntyre described youth team players being sent to play with the first team and MW refusing to accept them due to being unfamiliar with the system. MB mentions “alignment of club policy on youth team players “ in his interveiws. I don't think Warburton was refusing to accept youth team players because they were unfamiliar with the system. According to McIntyre Warbs wasn't impressed with youth players and did not believe youngsters of sufficient ability were in the system. Different thing IMO. That was my take on it too.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jun 2, 2022 15:52:45 GMT
I’m not so sure all our youth sides play the same way Shania. David McIntyre described youth team players being sent to play with the first team and MW refusing to accept them due to being unfamiliar with the system. MB mentions “alignment of club policy on youth team players “ in his interveiws. I don't think Warburton was refusing to accept youth team players because they were unfamiliar with the system. According to McIntyre Warbs wasn't impressed with youth players and did not believe youngsters of sufficient ability were in the system. Different thing IMO. I did hear from a very reliable source that the academy / youth coaches were constantly asking MW what do you need from a certain player, does he need more tactical nouse? More work in the gym? More aggression? More what? And were met with a wall of silence. His message to them was they’re not good enough but he wasn’t working with them to improve them. Very poor in my book.
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Post by hal9thou on Jun 2, 2022 16:29:21 GMT
I don't think Warburton was refusing to accept youth team players because they were unfamiliar with the system. According to McIntyre Warbs wasn't impressed with youth players and did not believe youngsters of sufficient ability were in the system. Different thing IMO. I did hear from a very reliable source that the academy / youth coaches were constantly asking MW what do you need from a certain player, does he need more tactical nouse? More work in the gym? More aggression? More what? And were met with a wall of silence. His message to them was they’re not good enough but he wasn’t working with them to improve them. Very poor in my book. If that's true then it bears out what a lot of people have been saying about a total rift in camp, ie Warbs vs The World. He's a stubborn customer, that was his downfall elsewhere. It's also interesting that the %s in Holdings have moved around fairly significantly in the last couple of months. Change is in the air all round.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jun 2, 2022 17:29:13 GMT
I did hear from a very reliable source that the academy / youth coaches were constantly asking MW what do you need from a certain player, does he need more tactical nouse? More work in the gym? More aggression? More what? And were met with a wall of silence. His message to them was they’re not good enough but he wasn’t working with them to improve them. Very poor in my book. If that's true then it bears out what a lot of people have been saying about a total rift in camp, ie Warbs vs The World. He's a stubborn customer, that was his downfall elsewhere. It's also interesting that the %s in Holdings have moved around fairly significantly in the last couple of months. Change is in the air all round. Surely this was for Less to knock heads together. What is he there for if he doesn't do that? Surely you sit both the manager and the youth team coach down and ask what it would take to get that player to be first team. If the manager turns round and says "you can get him to do as much conditioning work etc as you like, he simply isn't good enough" then there is a decision to be had, probably to release/ off-load the player. But sitting in grumpy silos is a text book example of how failing businesses are run, or rather not run.
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