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Post by The General on Jul 11, 2020 17:23:47 GMT
Les keeps saying how well things are going
The club is an embarrassment at the moment
Total Joke
No investment / No passion / Owners don't give a shit.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 11, 2020 17:27:02 GMT
Rather we just invested in some fucking players than sack another manager How can he build a team when he is given no money whatsoever It's amazing that he kept us in the division Sacking the manager is not the answer this time Sack the Board Yes Gen, 100% agree with you. Unfortunately next season I think it'll be worse. With the finances taking a massive hit because of the pandemic, I think any money we get for selling players will probably be used to keep the club going, and not used on replacing those players. For that reason I think we're relegated next season. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 11, 2020 17:27:15 GMT
Les keeps saying how well things are going The club is an embarrassment at the moment Total Joke No investment / No passion / Owners don't give a shit. Make it known that a sale could be on the cards and see if anyone bites. Christ Paladini managed to sell us to Flavio in 2007. If TF really cares about QPR FC then he should see if someone wants to invest in us. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 11, 2020 17:27:48 GMT
Ginge, he doesn’t have a defensive coach. He doesn’t believe we need one. He says “ We defend as a team, we attack as a team“. They don’t practice defensive drills. They don’t practice defending set pieces. Clint Hill confirmed it. What’s your opinion about that? Or is the real problem at board, not management, level? Like others are saying Not having a defensive coach is fucking stupid and I've said so many times. Still don't think sacking him is the answer right now. Would you not agree we were overachieving before the lock down? Personally I would not describe it as overachieving. We were in excellent form for the six games prior to lockdown. That’s the sad part, having the winds completely ripped from our sails. What’s unacceptable however are the standard of performances since the restart. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 17:28:48 GMT
Rather we just invested in some fucking players than sack another manager How can he build a team when he is given no money whatsoever It's amazing that he kept us in the division Sacking the manager is not the answer this time Sack the Board Yes Gen, 100% agree with you. Unfortunately next season I think it'll be worse. With the finances taking a massive hit because of the pandemic, I think any money we get for selling players will probably be used to keep the club going, and not used on replacing those players. For that reason I think we're relegated next season. Without covid we probably be looking at £20-30m in player sales with £5-10m of that being able to be reinvested into squad. Be lucky if we get that amount just from selling now. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jul 11, 2020 17:29:03 GMT
Didn't Eustace play in defence ? As did Warburton and Banfield.
Can't believe myself that the management are lacking in defensive "coaches"
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jul 11, 2020 17:32:04 GMT
Personally don't think Warburton should be sacked BUT while Lee Johnson is without a club there is a decent replacement who has helped build a club out of nothing and plays attractive football.
Just saying because these last 6 games have been fucking terrible to watch and that includes a win !
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jul 11, 2020 17:42:29 GMT
We were in excellent form for the six games prior to lockdown. That’s the sad part, having the winds completely ripped from our sails. What’s unacceptable however are the standard of performances since the restart. We have played really attractive and enjoyable football this season. I don't know what the players were told during lockdown. Maybe that there will be no restart and training will start in the beginning of July earliest. We shouldn't give too much weight to these latest games. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 17:44:28 GMT
We have played really attractive and enjoyable football this season. I don't know what the players were told during lockdown. Maybe that there will be no restart and training will start in the beginning of July earliest. We shouldn't give too much weight to these latest games. I would imagine quite few have been told either by club or agents that future lays elsewhere so aren't putting in their all. Coasting until season done. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jul 11, 2020 17:48:01 GMT
I dont give a fuck about it being a "sort of pre-season" or "like training"
Its simply an absolute disgrace to go out onto a pitch and not register a shot on target.
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Post by BrightonR on Jul 11, 2020 17:53:51 GMT
I dont give a fuck about it being a "sort of pre-season" or "like training" Its simply an absolute disgrace to go out onto a pitch and not register a shot on target. We seem to manage it quite regularly. |
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Post by acricketer on Jul 11, 2020 18:19:36 GMT
Poor performance once again. Something needs changing. What's the longer term plan? Survive?
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jul 11, 2020 22:24:17 GMT
Fuck me, you watch any other team and they give it a go. Are we so seriously out of our depth that we can't hit the target more than twice against nay of these shit teams we've faced in the last six ?
Something aint right and I think it is players thinking the season is over and they are gone.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 11, 2020 23:08:21 GMT
Ginge, he doesn’t have a defensive coach. He doesn’t believe we need one. He says “ We defend as a team, we attack as a team“. They don’t practice defensive drills. They don’t practice defending set pieces. Clint Hill confirmed it. What’s your opinion about that? Or is the real problem at board, not management, level? Like others are saying Not having a defensive coach is fucking stupid and I've said so many times. Still don't think sacking him is the answer right now. Would you not agree we were overachieving before the lock down? I agree mate. What we actually need is our DoF to do some directing, sit the Manager down and explain to him the reasons why he needs to hire a defensive coach for next season! |
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Post by 72bus on Jul 12, 2020 0:06:12 GMT
Watched the sheff utd team put their bodies in front of everything the bluenoses thru at them earlier . Don't see the same commitment with our players . Warbs needs to get rid of our so called superstars and be given some £ to build a team , get in a defensive coach pronto and players that give 100%
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Post by BrightonR on Jul 12, 2020 7:17:19 GMT
So, in his post match comments the manager has stated that:
“... there were some very clear messages relayed to the players afterwards”
I guess we’ll see on Tuesday if they’ve bothered to listen to a word he says. Judging by recent performances, I suspect not, or at least simply can’t be bothered.
IMO, Warburton needs to either :
1) Hold his hands up to the many mistakes he has been making recently,
2) Admit that he has actually been experimenting in readiness for the close season preparation and he knows where the changes need to be made, or
3) Come clean about the appalling unprofessionalism and lack of effort from the players.
I really cannot see what other explanations there could be.
Hoping to be proven wrong, but I fear we’re in for more of the same.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 12, 2020 7:21:52 GMT
He don't seem the type to let rip,more like please lads can we try☹
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 12, 2020 7:58:09 GMT
He should be asked why defensively we have not improved not one bit since day one of the season. If we keep him would we be any better at the back next season?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 12, 2020 8:06:21 GMT
I could live with being shit at back if we out scored teams😊
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 8:42:16 GMT
MW is a very stubborn man as can be seen by his exit from Brentford and other clubs....I can only see more of the same inconsistencies in future that the team have shown all season.
I would not say MW has been over achieving all season ., I just think it’s a very poor league.
The players came back with little to no belief that they could push for a play off place which can only be down to the Manager and Coaches
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 12, 2020 9:06:25 GMT
Too much focus on the negatives on this thread. Warburton has brought many positives too. Best Manager we've had since Warnock in my opinion (although I appreciate that's basically to say he's the best of a very bad lot).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 9:15:07 GMT
The real question that needs to be answered is does he suit the current ambitions of our owners ?
If the owners are playing the waiting game for land grabs and being in a position to sell off our current home then I think MW performance in keeping us in this league may be seen as acceptable.
If the owners are looking to push the club forwards then I’m sure that the overall achievements of MW and his staff this season may be questionable.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jul 12, 2020 9:43:11 GMT
how many games do you give him? A lot more than some so called 'fans' are giving him. Yes we've hit a bad blip, yes we've been poor since the restart but the reality is has has created a team out of youths, unknowns, loans and freebies. We were 1 game off of going 2nd in the table, flirted with the play offs most of the season and have hit a bad patch in form which has got the knives out from some. The fella has done a fantastic job under the circumstances and should be given our full backing. He will have an even harder job next season when we inevitably lose, Manning, Hughil, Eze, Bright and Lumley. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 12, 2020 10:00:30 GMT
Where Lumley going? The circus not allowed to perform under covid😊
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 12, 2020 10:01:21 GMT
how many games do you give him? A lot more than some so called 'fans' are giving him. Yes we've hit a bad blip, yes we've been poor since the restart but the reality is has has created a team out of youths, unknowns, loans and freebies. We were 1 game off of going 2nd in the table, flirted with the play offs most of the season and have hit a bad patch in form which has got the knives out from some. The fella has done a fantastic job under the circumstances and should be given our full backing. He will have an even harder job next season when we inevitably lose, Manning, Hughil, Eze, Bright and Lumley. Top post 👍 |
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Post by Rangers77 on Jul 12, 2020 10:14:56 GMT
how many games do you give him? A lot more than some so called 'fans' are giving him. What's with that? Somebody who's watched these last six games isn't a fan? Lol. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 12, 2020 10:22:03 GMT
Posutives are he has had us play sone decent stuff this season. Negatives are Piss poor defending from the get go and not one of those defenders have improved and the condition and level of performances since coming back have been awful and you have to look at him as he has picked these players game after game.
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Post by BrightonR on Jul 12, 2020 11:09:47 GMT
I’ve only just got around to watching his post-match interview, during which he mentioned something that I don’t understand.
Is anybody able to explain what he means when he claims that “any manager will tell you right now that you can’t work with players“?
What the hell does training actually consist of these days?
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 12, 2020 11:26:08 GMT
I’ve only just got around to watching his post-match interview, during which he mentioned something that I don’t understand. Is anybody able to explain what he means when he claims that “any manager will tell you right now that you can’t work with players“? What the hell does training actually consist of these days? Guessing attitude of the players? |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 12, 2020 11:28:36 GMT
3ft with a 6 drop
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