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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 4, 2020 10:44:46 GMT
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Post by acricketer on Dec 4, 2020 10:50:30 GMT
Another Saturday ruined!
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Post by Shania on Dec 4, 2020 10:54:51 GMT
 Or we can win this one!
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Post by West Acton on Dec 4, 2020 11:34:41 GMT
No idea why as were so up and down half to half but I’m going away win
Need keep Fraser Campbell quiet I think he would have been decent cheap replacement for Wells
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Post by Shania on Dec 4, 2020 12:39:23 GMT
Their right side defensively and the CB Hogg are areas/players we should try to exploit according to a poster on their messageboard . Kelman will get a chance in this match I hope.
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Post by Corbray on Dec 4, 2020 12:49:35 GMT
can see us winning this one, if not then serious questions have to be asked about warbs.
thing is we're actually playing some great stuff at times but make the same mistakes and aren't clinical enough.
i'd go for
dieng
kakay dickie barbet niki
ball carrol
bos chair willock
dykes
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 4, 2020 13:18:39 GMT
I think he needs to find a way of playing two up sooner or later. I don't see Kelman as a lone striker neither from his physique nor that video that was posted of him. Default position always seems to be stick someone on the wing.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 4, 2020 16:14:38 GMT
Just ordered game
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Post by The General on Dec 4, 2020 16:15:24 GMT
I think he needs to find a way of playing two up sooner or later. I don't see Kelman as a lone striker neither from his physique nor that video that was posted of him. Default position always seems to be stick someone on the wing. Agree with this both Bonn and Dykes up front otherwise he will get binned off soon 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 Needs a few wins to get to mid table again , i like the way we play atm but no wins is a massive worry. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 4, 2020 18:21:39 GMT
Dykes and Kelman for me. Be brave. Can always take him off if it doesn't work out - better than putting him on when the game's gone.
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Post by rscot on Dec 4, 2020 18:38:18 GMT
I think Warbs will stick with the 4-2-3-1. I’d drop Wallace, bring back Niko. I’d also have Kane in if he’s available. Hopefully some of the chances created are converted and hopefully the team paces itself and manages a clean sheet.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 4, 2020 19:35:04 GMT
Agree, he will. Stubborn and, dare I say it, not that clever? Or have we just not got the midfield to play two up?
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Post by rscot on Dec 4, 2020 19:39:27 GMT
Agree, he will. Stubborn and, dare I say it, not that clever? Or have we just not got the midfield to play two up? Do you think Willock could play in midfield, go 4-3-3 instead, try to give the team a bit more solidity ? |
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 4, 2020 20:10:56 GMT
Agree, he will. Stubborn and, dare I say it, not that clever? Or have we just not got the midfield to play two up? Do you think Willock could play in midfield, go 4-3-3 instead, try to give the team a bit more solidity ? I like Willock very much but, like MW (!), I'm not sure where his best position is. Consistency is our problem. As a team and individually. |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 4, 2020 20:30:36 GMT
Willock for me should play in hole of the front man. He’s quick, can carry the ball and can drop the shoulder
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Post by Shania on Dec 4, 2020 22:32:50 GMT
It`s about time Adomah get a starting place now. And impresses!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 8:24:15 GMT
Conceding Two goals per game is really our Achilles heel at present and is surely the most important aspect that MW needs to rectify..Eight clean sheets in Sixty Six matches is a truly horrendous record under MW.
Would prefer MW to be trying to keep clean sheets rather than attempting to blitz teams with his unrealistic offensive tactics.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 5, 2020 8:33:12 GMT
agree Sparx early part of the season we had defo tightened up at the back and looked more solid but we were not scoring goals from open play. We’re now getting few more goals but seems to be that is at the cost of being rigid defensively seems to be no inbetween with us it’s all or nothing
Kakay playing way up field last game, same as manning, and way out of position when sides counter. Bristols second goal is an example look where Kakay is and who is actually at right back trying stop cross
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 9:41:53 GMT
You make some valid points West Acton regarding our F/Bs pushing too far forward much too often..do our F/Bs need to be so Kamakazie with Bos , Willock and Chair generally playing in wide positions and are more than capable of causing teams problems amongst themselves.
Having to score Two goals per game to draw a match is an unrealistic target to nail game after game even with former players like Wells ,Hughill and Eze let alone with our current players.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 5, 2020 10:00:15 GMT
Full backs bombing on once again exposes MW's indifference to defending. If he wants that we need to play a three and we've only got three CBs - one still learning (who from is a good question?) one who is pretty slow and one who can be a liability. It could also work if Cameron or Ball drop into a three but Cam's best days are over so he's inconsistent and Ball, much as we all like him, does give the ball away a lot. Best thing with our squad is solid back four concentrating on defending properly and go from there.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 5, 2020 10:22:23 GMT
We were solid enough start of season but could not score seems in trying to address that were no longer solid at the back. Surely there had to be a happy medium between the two
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 5, 2020 10:28:11 GMT
Best thing with our squad is solid back four concentrating on defending properly and go from there. Is not (and never has been) Warby's Way. #TheInconvenientTruth |
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 5, 2020 10:50:37 GMT
We were solid enough start of season but could not score seems in trying to address that were no longer solid at the back. Surely there had to be a happy medium between the two Yes, better players than we can afford? |
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Post by rscot on Dec 5, 2020 10:58:59 GMT
This is why I’m not such a fan of 4-2-3-1 and prefer a 4-3-3. With the 4-2-3-1 when the full backs are pushed high up the opposition end of the pitch it only really leaves 4 QPR players to defend counter attacks (outfield players, not including the keeper), with a 4-3-3 and the full-backs pushed on you still have 5 players attacking and 5 defending. I think it’s a better balanced system all round.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 5, 2020 11:01:24 GMT
We were solid enough start of season but could not score seems in trying to address that were no longer solid at the back. Surely there had to be a happy medium between the two Yes, better players than we can afford? if that is the answer, I agree with you I think it is, then surely we got stop kicking managers and players as you can only get a tune out of what you have to play with. If there substandard why we expecting Stella outcomes Not question directly to you Al just something I’m pondering. We need reasonable expectations |
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 5, 2020 11:05:04 GMT
Has anyone dared to watch his pre-match interview? I've not 😬
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Post by rscot on Dec 5, 2020 11:05:17 GMT
We were solid enough start of season but could not score seems in trying to address that were no longer solid at the back. Surely there had to be a happy medium between the two Yes, better players than we can afford? QPR pay good wages, you can get good players on free transfers. Just maybe not in the English market which is a very expensive market. QPR should be looking at other markets outside England to get in a few good seasoned pro’s to strengthen the squad and provide cover and competition |
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Post by Greg1882 on Dec 5, 2020 11:23:06 GMT
We were solid enough start of season but could not score seems in trying to address that were no longer solid at the back. Surely there had to be a happy medium between the two Yes, better players than we can afford? Don’t necessarily think the players are the issue. It’s warbs style. I’ve read that previous players under him have said they don’t run defensive drills in training. When we click and play as well as we can it’s great but we are far to easy to suss out and far to easy to score against. For me that starts on the training ground |
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Post by rscot on Dec 5, 2020 11:34:43 GMT
Yes, better players than we can afford? Don’t necessarily think the players are the issue. It’s warbs style. I’ve read that previous players under him have said they don’t run defensive drills in training. When we click and play as well as we can it’s great but we are far to easy to suss out and far to easy to score against. For me that starts on the training ground A big problem is playing “Possession” football all of the time, it’s just asking for trouble as far as a relatively inexperienced back line goes. Nothing wrong with the centre halves occasionally playing a ball long into space, behind the opposition defenders, fullbacks. |
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 5, 2020 11:52:48 GMT
This is why I’m not such a fan of 4-2-3-1 and prefer a 4-3-3. With the 4-2-3-1 when the full backs are pushed high up the opposition end of the pitch it only really leaves 4 QPR players to defend counter attacks (outfield players, not including the keeper), with a 4-3-3 and the full-backs pushed on you still have 5 players attacking and 5 defending. I think it’s a better balanced system all round.
Been telling him this for years but he wont listen. It's more tactically flexible, helps an average squad get on the front foot.
BUT - not such a great system with slow ball and that's warburtons trade mark.
Football changed when France won the WC with less possession but Warbs still dreams of tiki taka......
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